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Yeah it would esp since this is queen and king, why make a king go first instead of last But what could also happen is candice open and adriana goes directly behind her. Like when adriana opened in 2003 and gisele was after her. But I still hope adriana's closes because she'd get the most spotlight still ^I'm taking all these (and others but I quoted too many! ) at once as they pertain to the same thing. When I saw the sketch for the 'Pearly King/Queen' I addressed it a few weeks ago HERE: http://www.bellazon.com/main/topic/48583-victorias-secret-fashion-show-2013-general-discussion/?p=3271494 Pearly kings clothes are made of 'tacky fabric' and 'buttons' - specifically mother-of-pearl. They were originally market traders, and they elected "kings", titular leaders, from each specific trade (be it fishmongers, butchers, ironmongers, fruit and veg sellers etc) to represent them as an early form of trade-unionism. They would look after each other in hard times and collect money for those who had lost their trading pitches or were ill. They dressed to attract attention, and their wives became the "queens". This gradually morphed into a specific form of charity, one that still exists today in London. They are NOT rich or actual royalty in any sense, the clothing is deliberately showy but cheap, but is now just a signifier of this old-practice and carried on by it's descendants... I guess the article is by someone equally ill-informed. If Behati is to "guard" anyone in this segment then it will still be Candice. From what I can see of her outfit it is an homage to the (British) Queen's Life Guard who are tasked with protecting Royal residencies; Candice is wearing the 'Royal Fantasy Bra' and now even has a natty little crown to perch sillily on her head! The Queen and a Pearly King/Queen are not in any way related. What VS might do with this is anyone's guess - and I have no idea about the segment's order obviously - but you are all barking up the wrong tree if you think this means some sort of grand entrance for Adriana proceeded by her minions! I hope this clear the outfit up?

Part 3: Fin.

Part 2:

Wildfox's 'Daisy Girls' - photography by Mark Hunter & Steven Meiers:

+ Newish agency (Supreme NY) polaroids:

Been meaning to get around to this - so much good stuff since I was last here, thank you... New H&M:

Just saw the advert on television... The outfits she wears are available on the M&S website too:

I don't know why Barbara Palvin isn't mentioned in this article...And she is the great actress...I am pretty sure that she is playing the beautiful, young bride of John Hurt who plays The King of Thrace and is the lead....Barbara Palvin...This is why he called her My Queen...or the elderly king dies leaving his young daughter The Queen.....Barbara Palvin...She plays royalty and is the lead so shy no mention in the article...So much for that silly speculation of the blink-and-you-miss-it role like Alessandra in 2006's Casino Royale when sh eis the lead...Irina is the Alessandra role...Barbara Palvin is probably the lead so I don't know why she wasn't mentioned...I knew her role was significant when Brett Ratner tweeted/Instagrammed that pic of Aldo Signoretti (three time nominated for the Academy Award for Makeup, the first time for his work in Moulin Rouge!) working with Barbara who is probably the lead...the main crew members only work with the principal actors/actresses on set...Not like Irina...their first ,second assistants work with extras...Not Barbara Palvin....Barbara Plavin the lead....Plus Brett Ratner and Barbara are following each other on Twitter and Brett is re-tweeting all her Hercules related tweets....From photos and Tweets we know that she worked at least 1 million days incl today.... Some other stuff about being the best and most beautiful....Victoria's fashion show....must be there....most fans and most beautiful.... ...And she shouldn't be seen with Stella Maxwell.... Plus she is now listed on the Wikipedia Cast list...... Cast Barbara Palvin Dwayne Johnson as Hercules Tobias Santelmann as Rhesus Aksel Hennie as Tydeus Rufus Sewell as Autolycus Ian McShane as Amphiaraus Barbara Palvin as The Main Character Reece Ritchie as Iolaus Barbara Palvin Barbara Palvin Ingrid Bolsø Berdal Joseph Fiennes John Hurt as the King of Thrace Rebecca Ferguson Barbara Palvin above Irina Shayk Irina Shayk as Megara Plus she's in all these set pictures and not Irina as Barbara Palvin is the most important and why is she no tin article...... http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/23100000/DERP-derp-23141158-815-622.jpg 4 minutes ago then she tweeted this.... http://images.sodahead.com/polls/002372689/4136281933_stupid_answer_1_xlarge.jpeg Barbara Palvin instagram twitter facebook...blah blah Barbara Palvin... http://www.freakyts.com/siteimages/you%20are%20an%20idiot%20would%20you%20like%20to%20buuy%20a%20vowel.jpg

^Ah, so nice to see a new fan! And thanks for all the updates wendylorene. I hadn't realised anyone else was here!

^Thank you!

^Apart from how they kept mixing up their horse references in the same episode. Is he on the white one or the pale one??? I've just watched the first three episodes and I'm liking it - the demon is actually creepy, and the make-up/special effects (particularly on John Cho) has been excellent!

^Ah, for a film world populated by buxom scantily-clad glamour models... Wait a sec - isn't that what B-movies are?! ^She can still be Romani/Jewish and British - they aren't mutually exclusive. Plus, if you read the British tabloids you'd be convinced the place is being overrun with gypsies anyway! ^Isn't Pietro's hair silver anyway, hence the nickname? For me it's a shame Evan Peters isn't in this instead of the next X-Men movie, where I suspect he'll get far less screen-time than he'd probably get here. He can alternate from feeling sympathetic towards to being a dick pretty convincingly from what I've seen of him in American Horror Story. (Y)

^In case you are unaware of the genesis of this outfit, it's an homage to the Stanley Kubrick film Eyes Wide Shut. For me that errs more towards creepy than sexy, but that's a good thing for Hallowe'en no? ^It was another provocative statement - and by saying 'don't deny' you are actively encouraging an argument, so I'd sort your semantics out.

^Well that's not what you said... I mean we could argue about the relative merits of Elle(Italia) versus Elle(France), or why Vogue(Mexico) should be bigger than Vogue(Russia), or how Stefanel is a more prestigious campaign than say Princesse Tam-Tam or Seafolly - but I rather suspect we'd be quibbling and clutching at straws to justify something arbitrary. She's always done alright and been successful - it's entirely other people's shortcomings if they've only just noticed her through tangential reasons. And Zimbardi, I'm very fond of you too!

10 (JUST ABOUT) REASONS WHY IT'S OK TO RAG ON CANDICE It's pretty clear these days that you either hate Candice or are a moron, obviously. It's just the way it is... So why are we all suddenly down on the shy, farm-growing-upper, Brasil-loving "Angel", and why is it perfectly fine? She's blonde (well, not really, but that's how we know her) and they ALL look the same She's skinny and has no ass She sticks her ass out all the time, even though she doesn't have one All her VS pics look the same - unlike everyone else's that are so very different She's not Adriana She's a white South African, and who's going to be worried about hating on them? She dressed up as a Geisha, VS didn't tell her too, she chose to do that and then laughed in the face of some Japs or something... This one time she said 'finally' in a weird way Ummm, she speaks slowly? VS prefers her to your favourite model. And that's just WRONG

Again? You mean as in (outside of the gossip/paparazzi sites) some VS work, a couple of other campaigns, some catalogue work, a couple of editorials plus accompanying covers this year? You know, like every other year since she's been on the scene (circa 2006)? So, yes, I WILL deny. Thank you all for the updates everyone...

Am I seeing it wrong or has she only got one foot?!

^'Thirded' - not that it needed it, but I felt obliged..! Ben Watts has posted a new album on his facebook site, 'EndleSS suMMer in St. Barth'(sic), lots of Magdalena:

^That's not entirely true - I let a lot of things go! Either way it shouldn't be so easy... ^Oh no, I get the point. Candice made an innocuous comment - that could be construed any number of ways - but it's suddenly been accepted that it was a slap in the face to Adriana and Ale. I'm not defending her as the choice, or what her comment could mean, and I'm completely with you on her fans - but actually neither party are claiming she 'deserved it more than' or 'worked harder than' on this thread at all. What there is is a supposition that there is, and these spurious justifications/retaliations as to why Adriana and Ale are better which have nothing to do with it - and I don't think that should just be left unchecked. Plus, latterly, "shady" responses have actually been made but they're all perfectly alright because they're by - well - guess who...

^What the hell has that got to do with it??? I NEVER said Candice works harder - you've said Adriana and Ale do. They are not doing that by the above statements. I've already acquiesced to them (Adriana at least) being more popular, but that's not the same thing... As for the pregnancy statement, unless you're saying that they were having kids for VS's sake then I don't get your point. That's a lifestyle choice, they're older and (probably) have a bigger and better portfolio to rest their laurels upon. It's not working harder - it's just tougher for them. And - for the umpteenth time - I don't "hate" Adriana. I just don't understand why everything is justified for her and demonised for everybody else. These arguments get more and more convoluted and ridiculous. I even think that the nutcases in Barbara Palvin's thread are just Limanati ringers, trying to draw attention away from the fact that the Lima fans are just as barmy as ever!

^No, apparently Adriana and Alessandra work harder - and make "sacrifices". So unless Candice wants to offer her first-born to the company then I'm just not accepting her having any presence on this year's show.

^What bullshit are you two peddling now?!?! Are you saying that in order to have any merit with the company at all that Candice has to outdo Adriana and Ale in some ludicrous game of one-upmanship that you've now deemed as necessary - and therefore has to knock out a couple of kids as dangerously close as possible (before or after) to the VSFS in order to "justify" wearing the fantasy bra? If you want to hear that Adriana is more popular than Candice then so be it: She is. You've won. But don't bother us with such fallacies to suit your latest complaints when it's patently clear that, whether you like her or not, Candice works a hell of a lot all year round for VS.

Ugh, so many gifs... ^Actually, I did answer you on that particular question here: http://www.bellazon.com/main/topic/48583-victorias-secret-fashion-show-2013-general-discussion/?p=3271494 - although I moved it to that other (VSFS sub-forum) section. There seems to be the same conversations in two places at the moment!