June 16Jun 16 Time to get scammed again Trumpers!Make the phone in China, slap a 'Made in USA' sticker on it and sell it at a hefty price. 'Eventually' just means this will be a very limited edition with no real plans to ever manufacture the phone in the USA.
June 16Jun 16 Is the UK part of the European Union?No, the United Kingdom is no longer part of the European Union.
June 16Jun 16 https://deadline.com/2025/06/cliff-booth-movie-netflix-brad-pitt-carla-gugino-1236435141/
June 16Jun 16 MAGAs are starting to wake up. Too late to apologize now, enjoy the fruits of your labor.
June 17Jun 17 You got Gulf of America and the Trump Mobile thoughEDIT: nevermind Edited June 17Jun 17 by Matt!
June 17Jun 17 So far it looks like drones, Israeli Airpower, Iranian Ballistic Missiles, and AA (US + Israeli) war which would be completely indecisive without ground assaults on both sides. Neither side is capable of large scale ground assaults.The Israelis will attack with airpower/drones (missiles and bombs) while the Iranians will use missiles/drones.US-NATO exhausted their spare AA stockpiles for Ukraine a very long time ago which means that aid to Israel in the long term will have to compete with Ukraine for new Anti-aircraft missile production, which is far too short for Ukraine's needs anyway. This would be a serious problem, especially as the Iranians are good at producing cheap but effective Kamikaze drones to exhaust enemy AA missile stockpiles. Eventually Israeli will run out of AA missiles in a longer conflict due to their slow production and extremely high cost.Long duration missile warfare is slow/expensive/indecisive as Russia has proven in Ukraine, despite destroying thousands of targets. Unless the Iranians use chemical payloads the destruction of Israelis will be limited to that of an aircraft bomb per missile. Both sides should be capable of terrorizing each other with drones, especially FPV.Israel is good at killing civilians in Gaza with aircraft bombs but Iran is a large country with 10 x the population lol. It looks like Israel can be supplied with American bombs & aircraft ordinance easily which would be their advantage. The Iranians would have to find a way to destroy Israel's airpower, certainly by bringing down their AA grid over the course of a longer war. They could also try to get at them with drones.
June 17Jun 17 6 hours ago, Cult Icon said:So far it looks like drones, Israeli Airpower, Iranian Ballistic Missiles, and AA (US + Israeli) war which would be completely indecisive without ground assaults on both sides. Neither side is capable of large scale ground assaults.The Israelis will attack with airpower/drones (missiles and bombs) while the Iranians will use missiles/drones.I think the strategic stalemate stems largely from the regions geography. — neither Israel nor Iran can conduct large-scale ground assaults due to distance. Israel could attempt something like a Normandy style amphibious landing but it would be impossible without U.S assistance. 6 hours ago, Cult Icon said:Long duration missile warfare is slow/expensive/indecisive as Russia has proven in Ukraine, despite destroying thousands of targets. Unless the Iranians use chemical payloads the destruction of Israelis will be limited to that of an aircraft bomb per missile. Both sides should be capable of terrorizing each other with drones, especially FPV.Iran has Shahed drones which are cheap(ish) and quick to produce.
June 17Jun 17 7 minutes ago, Matt! said:I think the strategic stalemate stems largely from the regions geography. — neither Israel nor Iran can conduct large-scale ground assaults due to distance. Israel could attempt something like a Normandy style amphibious landing but it would be impossible without U.S assistance.Iran has Shahed drones which are cheap(ish) and quick to produce.The Geran drones cost around $50,000 each 2 yrs ago (less if they ramp up production) and bring down $10 million dollar US PATRIOT missiles.Israel has a population of less than 10 million, Iran has 90 million people. It would require Israel to field a multi-million man army lol.
June 17Jun 17 ReutersUS retail sales fall sharply in MayU.S. retail sales dropped more than expected in May, weighed down by a decline in motor vehicle purchases as a rush to beat potential tariffs-related price hikes ebbed, but consumer spending remain...The "Golden Age"
June 17Jun 17 Just now, Cult Icon said:The Geran drones cost around $50,000 each 2 yrs ago (less if they ramp up production) and bring down $10 million dollar US PATRIOT missiles.Israel has a population of less than 10 million, Iran has 90 million people. It would require Israel to field a multi-million man army lol.Yeah I looked it up - Google says $10K - $50K, and I’d guess it’s safe to say they’re already mass-producing them. So the actual cost is probably closer to $10K than $50K.It was purely hypothetical, but we’ve seen crazier things happen.
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