Leonardo DiCaprio - (Please Read First Post Prior to Posting)

[akatosh]

First videos of the q&a:

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CzkrE2eu-IE/?img_index=2

https://www.instagram.com/stories/jfuentes/3234865916108611647/

 

 

 

[oxford25]

Jade & Akatosh

 

Tks for both Leo’s birthday party pix & vids , as well as , yesterday’s Variety Q&A pix & vids  

[Sugarwater]

1 minute ago, oxford25 said:

Jade & Akatosh

 

Tks for both Leo’s birthday party pix & vids , as well as , yesterday’s Variety Q&A pix & vids  

I second this! Thank you!

[akatosh]

You are very welcome @oxford25 and @Sugarwater😊

 

 

A little off topic: Lily is so beautiful. I'm so glad she finally gets the recognition and press she deserves. Surely she'll talk about KOTFM in this interview. I hope to find it online soon.

 

[Jade Bahr]

At LACMA

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[Jade Bahr]

The germans just love cruel history and Leo 😄

 

'Killers of the Flower Moon' Continues Its Slow Burn Journey at the Global Box Office

Leonardo DiCaprio and Robert DeNiro star in Martin Scorsese's latest film.

 

• Despite earning $137 million worldwide, the cost of producing Killers of the Flower Moon was $200 million, leaving a significant gap in profit.
• The film has performed well in international markets, particularly in France, the United Kingdom, and Germany.
• Based on a true story, the movie explores how the Osage community in Oklahoma was targeted for their resources and the subsequent involvement of the FBI in solving the crimes committed against the Osage people.

Killers of the Flower Moon continues a complicated journey at the global box office, with Martin Scorsese's latest project earning a total of $137 million across the world. While the number is impressive for a drama that runs over the course of 204 minutes, the amount is significantly smaller than the reported $200 million it cost to produce. Nevertheless, the film managed to score another $4.65 million at the domestic box office this weekend, with the total in the United States and Canada coming at around $59 million at the time of writing. Hopefully, the movie can become a strong contender during next year's awards season.

 

When it comes to the international performance of Killer of the Flower Moon, territories where the project is holding strong on a week-to-week basis include France, the United Kingdom, and Germany. The $77 million the movie has earned in international markets proves that interest in Scorsese's story about how the Osage community was threatened for their money in 1919 has sparked interest around the world. In comparison with the filmmaker's recent projects, Silence earned $23 million at the worldwide box office, while The Wolf of Wall Street gathered an impressive $406 million.

 

Leonardo DiCaprio stars as Ernest Burkhart, a man who starts living with his uncle, William King Hale (Robert De Niro) after coming back from World War I. Hale comes up with a plan to strip the Osage community living in what is present-day Oklahoma of their vast resources, and it includes making Burkhart marry Mollie Kyle (Lily Gladstone). The union would eventually lead to a series of crimes that required direct intervention from the government, in a situation that served as the foundation of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

 

 

According to screenrant Leos pay check was even higher.

Leonardo DiCaprio's Killers of the Flower Moon Salary Reportedly Revealed (& It's A Martin Scorsese Record)

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[akatosh]

Leonardo DiCaprio looks to nab several Screen Actors Guild Award records with ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’

Movie stars are a thing of the past, a relic of an era of Hollywood that simply no longer exists. But there are still a few performers who have the draw and the talent to be considered as such. Leonardo DiCaprio is one of them, and his list of achievements looks to grow yet again following the release of his latest project, “Killers of the Flower Moon.”

The engrossing film, which is based on David Grann’s 2017 non-fiction book of the same name, details a series of murders during the 1920s after oil was discovered on Osage land. DiCaprio stars as Ernest Burkhart, the permanently frowning nephew of Robert De Niro’s William Hale, a crime lord masquerading as a friend of the Osage who pulls Ernest into his murderous scheme to steal Osage headrights by having him marry Lily Gladstone’s Mollie Kyle.

 

 

The film marks DiCaprio’s sixth collaboration with Martin Scorsese (it is De Niro’s 10th). He has twice been nominated by the Screen Actors Guild Awards for his performances in the prolific director’s work, and with his well-received turn here, he has the opportunity to score a third and tie multiple records while setting a new one in the process.

 

SEE ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’: Will Scorsese’s history directing actors to Oscar nominations continue?

On the individual award front, a bid this year would allow DiCaprio to tie Denzel Washington for the most nominations in lead actor at six. He earned his first for his portrayal of reclusive business magnate Howard Hughes in Scorsese’s 2004 film “The Aviator.” He followed that with a nomination for the 2006 political thriller “Blood Diamond” (that same year, his performance as an undercover cop in Scorsese’s Oscar-winning crime drama “The Departed” earned him a supporting actor nom as well). Five years later, DiCaprio earned his third nomination for lead actor, this time for portraying the eponymous role in Clint Eastwood’s 2011 biographical film “J. Edgar.” His next bid, for Alejandro G. Iñárritu’s harrowing 2015 movie “The Revenant,” would bring him his first — and so far only — win in the category. DiCaprio’s most recent nomination is for drinking margaritas out of a blender his memorable turn as an actor whose career is on the downswing in Quentin Tarantino’s 2019 dramedy “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.” 

 

 

Because of his supporting actor nomination for “The Departed,” a nom for “Killers of the Flower Moon” would also put DiCaprio in sole possession of the male individual record at seven. It seems likely to happen; he currently sits in second place at 4/1 in Gold Derby’s odds, trailing only Irish actor Cillian Murphy (18/5 odds), his one-time co-star in Christopher Nolan’s mind-bending 2010 film “Inception” and the star of this summer’s “Oppenheimer” (also from Nolan). “Maestro’s” Bradley Cooper (third, 9/2 odds), “Rustin’s” Colman Domingo (fourth, 6/1 odds) and “The Holdover’s” Paul Giamatti (fifth, 13/2 odds) look poised to join them in the Best Actor race.

Elsewhere, “Oppenheimer” also leads Gold Derby’s odds for film ensemble at 69/20, but “Killers of the Flower Moon” looks to be in good shape to snag a nomination too. It is in third place (9/2 odds) behind Greta Gerwig’s “Barbie” (4/1 odds), while “Poor Things” (11/2 odds) and “The Color Purple” (10/1 odds) round out the top five. Another ensemble bid would allow DiCaprio to tie two of his former co-stars for the most ensemble nominations by a performer. Cate Blanchett, who appeared opposite DiCaprio in “The Aviator” and took home the SAG Award for supporting actress, and Brad Pitt, who won supporting actor for “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood,” both have seven nominations apiece. DiCaprio’s previous ensemble noms are for “Marvin’s Room” (1996), “Titanic” (1997), “The Aviator”, “The Departed,” “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood” and “Don’t Look Up” (2021). To date, DiCaprio remains winless in the ensemble race, a surprising and sobering statistic he shares with Russell Crowe and Meryl Streep.

 

https://www.goldderby.com/article/2023/leonardo-dicaprio-killers-of-the-flower-moon-sag-records/

 

 

‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ To Receive Vanguard Award at the Palm Springs International Film Awards

The Palm Springs International Film Awards has announced that Killers of the Flower Moon is the recipient of the Vanguard Award. The Vanguard Award is a group honor distinguishing a film’s cast and director in recognition of their collective work on an exceptional film project. The award will be presented to Academy Award-winning director Martin Scorsese, Academy Award winner and Executive Producer Leonardo DiCaprio and Gotham Award nominee Lily Gladstone, all of whom will be in attendance. The Film Awards will take place on January 4, 2024, at the Palm Springs Convention Center, with the festival running through January 15, 2024. The event will be sponsored by Entertainment Tonight and IHG Hotels & Resorts.

“Killers of the Flower Moon is a powerful and important film not only for its cinematic poetry, but also as a complicated story about the suspicious murders of members of the Osage Nation, one which fully illustrates the evils of racism and corruption. Directed by Martin Scorsese, the film features a powerhouse ensemble performance by Leonardo DiCaprio, Robert De Niro, Lily Gladstone, Jesse Plemons and Tantoo Cardinal making it the must-see film of the year,” said Festival Chairman Nachhattar Singh Chandi. “It is our honor to present the Vanguard Award to Killers of the Flower Moon.”

Past recipients of the Vanguard Award include Academy Award Best Picture winners Green Book and The Shape of Water as well as Best Picture nominees Belfast, La La Land, Little Miss Sunshine, The Fablemans and The Trial of the Chicago 7.

From Apple Original Films, Killers of the Flower Moon is an epic western crime saga, where real love crosses paths with unspeakable betrayal. Based on a true story and told through the improbable romance of Ernest Burkhart (Leonardo DiCaprio) and Mollie Kyle (Lily Gladstone), Killers of the Flower Moon tracks the suspicious murders of members of the Osage Nation, who became some of the richest people in the world overnight after oil was discovered underneath their land. Killers of the Flower Moon also stars Robert De Niro and Jesse Plemons, and is directed by Academy Award winner Martin Scorsese from a screenplay by Eric Roth and Martin Scorsese, based on David Grann’s best-selling book. The film is produced by Dan Friedkin p.g.a, Bradley Thomas p.g.a, Martin Scorsese p.g.a. and Daniel Lupi p.g.a. The film features an original score from the late Robbie Robertson.

 

https://www.awardsdaily.com/2023/11/14/killers-of-the-flower-moon-to-receive-vanguard-award-at-the-palm-springs-international-film-awards/

[Jade Bahr]

The Kyle sisters

 

 

[Jade Bahr]

I'm laughing right now because people at goldderby claimed for months Scorsese and Leo don't have the narrative to win anything with KOTFM against Nolan and now look at this

 

Spielberg Calls Scorsese the Master of Cinema and ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ His “Masterpiece”

On Monday night, two of the greatest filmmakers, Steven Spielberg and Martin Scorsese, sat down for a post-screening chat at the DGA after a “Killers of the Flower Moon” showing.

The Playlist’s Gregory Ellwood has a nice recap now posted on the site. It must have been a real treat to witness these two cinematic giants on stage.

Spielberg mentioned that John Ford and John Wayne made 14 films together, which means that Scorsese and Robert De Niro, who have collaborated on 11 films, need to collaborate on 3 more to tie that record. It’s a must.

“It’s so amazing to see Bobby D and Leo D in this film together. I just realized Bobby D and Leo D,” Spielberg says after the audience laughs. “But this is your sixth collaboration with Leo. And you’re 11th with Bobby, and you’re only three films shy of tying the record with John Ford, who directed John Wayne 14 times. So, you can’t quit yet with Bobby, with Leo six films.”

Spielberg ended the night by telling his old friend, “You are the master of our medium, and this is your masterpiece.”

I won’t disagree with the notion that Scorsese is the “master” of the medium; he definitely is, as Francis Ford Coppola recently said, the “greatest living director.” It’s not even a competition.
What other legendary filmmaker still alive today matches Scorsese’s towering filmography? I can’t think of any.

Not too far behind are Spielberg, Coppola, Lynch, PTA, Malick, Coen, Eastwood, Allen, Polanski, Almodovar, Haneke. A dying breed of giants.

Regardless, Oscar campaigning has begun, and Scorsese is most definitely going to be in competitive mode these next few months. He’s in it to win.

[Jade Bahr]

That's interesting even though I don't think GONY was that bad. Messy especially in the 2nd half but I've seen much worse movies in my life lol

 

Killers Of The Flower Moon Is The Good Version Of Gangs Of New York

 

Martin Scorsese has long been interested in crime stories. His second feature film, 1972's "Boxcar Bertha," involves a group of bank thieves and freewheeling fugitives. His most recent feature, "Killers of the Flower Moon," made 51 years later, is about the very real organized murders of multiple Osage millionaires at the instruction of William King Hale in Oklahoma in the 1920s. Those who are only passingly familiar with Scorsese's work tend to describe him as a maker of gangster pictures, which isn't accurate. More than anything, when it comes to his crime stories, Scorsese seems interested in ethics-free outliers. He is interested in the kinds of people who have blithely detached from conventional morality, and whose bloody-minded drive toward law-flouting, cruelty, and murder became so widespread they came to color the character of America.

 

In short, Scorsese is drawn to tales of sociopaths because, as he tells it, sociopaths shaped the nation.

 

Scorsese, then, often aims to deconstruct American history by finding the dark impulses toward white supremacy and nativism lurking at the nation's heart. With "Flower Moon," Hale sought to siphon money out of the Osage Nation and into the pockets of interloping white men who deliberately infiltrated/married into the Nation at his instruction. 21 years ago, however, Scorsese made "Gangs of New York," a film about violent street toughs in the 1860s — many of them aggressively nativist and anti-immigrant — whose organization into gangs meshed directly into the formation of the city's local politics. A streak of anti-immigrant sentiment, Scorsese argues, was baked into New York from the start.

 

The difference: "Killers of the Flower Moon" is excellently paced and focused. "Gangs of New York" is a massive, sprawling mess of a film. The former is the better version of the latter.

 

The land of opportunity

 

 

With both "Gangs" and "Flower Moon," Scorsese is deeply cynical about the state of America. In the former, the florid Bill the Butcher (Daniel Day-Lewis) fights to rule New York, in a very literal sense. He takes to the streets with knives and cudgels, hoping to beat to death anyone who would claim territory. He aims to rule over the local businesses, deliberately cheats in elections (he asks men to vote in local elections, then shaves them and has them return to vote again), and is chummy with local politicians and industrialists.

 

Bill sees America as a land of opportunity, although he sees "opportunity" as a synonym for "exploitation." A new nation, he finds, is ripe for violent control and overseen by a-holes who are unduly fixated on notions of purity. Bill the Butcher wants to keep immigrants out, and make sure that American natives (not Indigenous American, but descendants from the thirteen colonies) are the only ones who are permitted to remain. Scorsese seems to argue that characters like Bill the Butcher had more to do with the founding of the nation than any document-signing "founding fathers."

 

Likewise with William King Hale. In a revealing scene partway through "Flower Moon," Hale spanks his young charge Ernest (Leonardo DiCaprio) for not sticking to his long-term plan to rob the Osage Nation of its wealth. He admonishes Ernest for forgetting the racist mandate that white men deserve all the money. Hale has presented himself as a hero of the Osage people, speaks their language, and organizes health and community services for them. At the same time, he is murdering its members and asking white men to marry Osage women in an attempt to inherit their oil wealth. A land overlooked by the law is a land ripe for opportunity/exploitation.

 

Other similarities

 

So it seems "Gangs" and "Flower Moon" are thematically similar. Both are films about the corrupt heart of America and the soil of exploitation in which the seeds of the nation were planted. Scorsese sees nativism and white supremacy as the central blight of modern American life and is using his historical dramas to explore their origins.

 

"Gangs" and "Flower Moon" have other more practical similarities as well. They are both, structurally, about a younger, impressionable, not-entirely-innocent "clean slate" character played by Leonard DiCaprio who are both taken under the wings of charismatic, scheming supervillains. Both are about how the world of crime and violence is alluring for this type of character, despite any moral objections they may have (the Leo of "Flower Moon," however, is far more eager to participate than the Leo of "Gangs," who aims to exact a plot of revenge). Both were shot on artificially constructed streets, built specially for the film (although the "Gangs" set was a city unto itself).

 

So why did "Flower Moon" emerge as so dramatically powerful while "Gangs" came across as unfocused, messy, and chaotic?

 

A large part may have to do with the pacing. Although both films were edited by Scorsese's longtime collaborator. Thelma Schoonmaker, Scorsese seems to have bitten off more than he could chew with "Gangs." The 2002 film was famously a long-gestating project for Scorsese — he discovered the story in a book way back in the 1970s — and the film feels like it had been in production for 30 years. Every single detail is overblown, every production decision overthought. It doesn't feel epic as it does ungainly. At 167 minutes, it feels like there's way too much of it.

 

The evils of Harvey Weinstein

 

"Killers of the Flower Moon," however, was just as massive a production. "Flower Moon" had double the budget of the $100 million "Gangs" and runs 206 minutes, a full 39 minutes longer than "Gangs." Perhaps the extra time allowed Scorsese to pace his film better, let scenes play out, and allow the intimate moments to breathe. "Flower Moon" feels more controlled and deliberate, while "Gangs" feels frantic and bleary. Scorsese may be looking at similar themes and stories, but "Flower Moon" is quite clearly the better-thought-out film. In his 60s, Scorsese was still butting heads with the system. In his 80s, he was clearer about the kind of film he wanted to make.

 

Infamously, Scorsese hated making "Gangs of New York," which may have a lot to do with the film audiences saw. He and the film's producer, the monstrous Harvey Weinstein, had no end of creative differences, and Scorsese had to face the temperamental Weinstein's caprices on several occasions. The producer also pulled funds at the last minute, and Scorsese had to finish the film with a half million dollars of his own money. It would eventually come out that Scorsese nearly considered retiring altogether because of his bad Weisntein experience. He also admitted that he wasn't happy with his finished film.

 

It's possible that Scorsese's bad "Gangs" experience galvanized him toward more creative control of his projects moving forward. Seven films later, with "Flower Moon," Scorsese seems to have finally retold the American story he wanted to with "Gangs." It's clear to see that the latter is the smoother, more thoughtful, and overall better movie.

 

[Jade Bahr]

Also love this view of development of almost all of Leos characters in Scorsese movies.

 

I am so fucking interested in Leo DiCaprio’s trajectory when it comes to playing characters in Scorsese movies, hear me out:

 

Gangs of NY he’s really just a kid confronted with the possibility of violence, who’s tutored under the most violent man in his territory who also has the potential to become a father figure, but he says no, I need to do things my own way and find my own community – this is essentially a coming of age story.

 

The Departed, to me, is a more streamlined and polished Gangs of NY, albeit set in modern day Boston – Leo’s character is still a young man who has to go undercover and do some horrible things, and he struggles with the guilt of doing those horrible things, but he’s a little older, a little more cynical, a little more mature – though he still flies off the handle, and is still young enough to be seen as a surrogate son by Costello.

 

By Shutter Island, he’s a full adult, wife and kids (RIP), still struggling with violence and guilt but that’s as a result of having been in war and dealing with untreated PTSD. This is a much more adult story despite its pulpy exterior. He makes the choice to “die as a good man” as opposed to “live as a monster” – he’s taking agency for his actions. In The Departed he doesn’t get that choice (oof to those last 15 minutes.) Basically: he knows he’s done things that are irredeemable. He’s not a kid or kid-adjacent, he needs to take responsibility for his actions like an adult.

 

And then there’s a shift to Wolf of Wall Street where Jordan Belfort knows he’s a piece of shit and revels in it. There’s no guilt. Crime is fun! When you’re rich enough you’re untouchable! Haha silly goofy sensory overload! We all get to be immature man-children and nobody’s going to stop us! 

 

Makes me wonder what it’s going to be like in Killers of the Flower Moon because he’s going to be playing a piece of shit yet again – but this won’t be silly goofy funtimes, this is going to be greed and colonization and manipulation. 

 

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[akatosh]

So cute 🤭😍

 

[Jade Bahr]

So the fact Leo isn't talking about Titanic like a decent human being since uhm 1998 -a movie which isn't bad at all nor is his role Jack Dawson like maybe Kissing Booth 1 2 3 or Twilight 1 2 3 4 5 (still by far not the worst franchise out there)- makes him what? The biggest crybaby in town?

 

 

Do you guys think he's also refusing all the money this movie is still making? That would be at least a consistent rejection lol

 

Jacob Elordi is a cliché

 

Big year for Jacob Elordi. He is currently earning solid reviews for his performance as Elvis in Sofia Coppola’s Priscilla and, as just mentioned in the previous post about Margot Robbie, he has a supporting role in Emerald Fennell’s Saltburn, also a possible contender this award season. 

 

Jacob was at the premiere as part of the Saltburn team last night just a couple of days after the release of his GQ cover and interview.

 

One of the big headlines coming out of his profile is what he had to say about The Kissing Booth series, the Netflix movies that opened him up to an audience of primarily girls and women. Up until this year, that’s what Jacob has been known for: The Kissing Booth and then, of course, Euphoria. Interestingly Jacob doesn’t say much about Euphoria in the GQ piece, but he does talk some sh-t about The Kissing Booth: 

 

“I didn’t want to make those movies before I made those movies,” he says. “Those movies are ridiculous. They’re not universal. They’re an escape.”

 

I mean, it’s not like I disagree with him because The Kissing Booth movies are, indeed, terrible. But it’s his tone, it’s the utter disdain and the sanctimony – because what he’s basically saying is that he was always too good for The Kissing Booth. It’s sh-tting on the thing that gave him his start, that opened up more opportunities. 

 

When it’s pointed out to Jacob that these are often the choices that actors make at the beginning of their careers that can lead them to the work that’s more meaningful, the “one for them, one for me” approach, this was his response: 

 

“That one’s a trap as well. Because it can become 15 for them, none for you. You have no original ideas and you’re dead inside. So it’s a fine dance,” he replies. “My ‘one for them,’ I’ve done it.”

 

I wonder though if Jacob knows this is a cliché. To be so dismissive of the so-called “silly” work that precedes the more serious roles. So many of the handsome white movie stars have walked this path, from Leonardo DiCaprio to Ryan Gosling to Robert Pattinson. They’ve all been quick in the immediate aftermath of the swoony stories they’ve starred in to distance themselves from those parts, seeming to go out of their way to take on weird and dark characters to assure the industry, and themselves, that they are more than just boyfriends and husbands, men you want to fall in love with. 

 

What also happens during this stage is that they don’t sound like they’re having any fun. Which is what my takeaway was when I was reading Jacob’s GQ profile. Even questions about fashion – after all, this was GQ Magazine, a men’s FASHION magazine – are met with overwrought answers. Jacob is known for his collection of designer handbags and this is very cool, I love seeing a man rock up in a great clutch. But he doesn’t want to go there either.

 

If his predecessors are any indication, eventually he’ll grow out of this. We are, after all, living in the year of Kenergy, and perhaps the best performance of Ryan Gosling’s career in a movie that has him swaggering around in a fur coat and leather pants, LOL, doing dance numbers, revisiting his time on The Mickey Mouse Club. And in the process stealing the movie from Margot Robbie’s Barbie. Right now, Jacob Elordi can’t see this in his future. 

 

 

What Else?

 

Have you seen what Kate Beckinsale wore to Leonardo DiCaprio’s birthday? Do you think she was trolling him? Affectionately, of course. Because she does have a sense of humour like that. And you know, despite the success of that film, and that it basically made him the blockbuster star he is today, he’s kind of embarrassed of it. Which is why Kate’s outfit is SO hilarious. (Glamour) 

[akatosh]

^I thought about that too. She surely was pranking him a bit with this outfit 😄 I didn't know they were friends.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Jade Bahr]

^Maybe I'm getting old but a young female adult using the term "bae" referring to a 49 year old strange man is really cringe to me.

 

Robbie Robertson’s Scorsese Score Honored at 2023 Hollywood Music in Media Awards

 

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The late Robbie Robertson won score – feature film for his score for Martin Scorsese’s Killers of the Flower Moon. Robertson died in August at age 80. This was the 11th and final collaboration between Scorsese and Robertson; the film is dedicated to the Canadian rock music legend.

 

[akatosh]

Martin Scorsese Explains Why ‘Flower Moon’ Is Focused on Leonardo DiCaprio’s Character

The director spoke out about why his acclaimed film ended up centered on Ernest Burkhart following criticism from Indigenous viewers.

Martin Scorsese is breaking down exactly why Killers of the Flower Moon ended up being so focused on the villainous Ernest Burkhart, played by Leonardo DiCaprio.

The director spoke about the topic following some criticism the film has received from the Indigenous community. During a virtual press event Wednesday, Scorsese was joined by stars Leonardo DiCaprio, Lily Gladstone, Robert De Niro and Jesse Plemons.

The Apple TV+ film tells the real-life tragedy of the 1920s murders of Osage Nation members after oil was found on their Oklahoma land. It has garnered considerable acclaim from critics. But some members of the Indigenous community have said the story should have focused more on the character Mollie Burkhart (Gladstone) and other Osage impacted by the murders. There has also been criticism that DiCaprio’s Ernest was made to seem overly sympathetic, and shouldn’t have been the film’s main focus. Questions for the group were screened in advance, and they did not take a question about the criticism directly, but Scorsese and DiCaprio still touched on some of the issues raised.

Scorsese first explained how the project — which was co-written by the director and Eric Roth and is based on a 2017 book by David Grann — ended up centering around Ernest. The iconic director first noted DiCaprio was originally going to play the heroic FBI agent Tom White, who ended up being played by Plemons.

“We took the character of Tom White that Leo was going to play and, after a couple of years [of development], we took it to its limit,” Scorsese said. “We felt that, ultimately, a story seen through the eyes of the Bureau of Investigation coming in from Washington to this area to find out who did it was — as David Grann pointed out — it was [more] a matter of who didn’t do it. Once I began to understand more the complicity and how we all may be culpable ourselves in life…and the fact that I got to know a lot of the Osage people because I kept going back to Oklahoma, and I kept hearing stories and they kept speaking about how the families are still there.”

He recalled how Margie Burkhart, the great granddaughter of Mollie and Ernest Burkhart, noted that her great grandparents had been in love..

“A lot of these deceptions and betrayals and murders came out of people who really liked each other…. Ultimately, we were stuck,” Scorsese continued. “We really couldn’t get into the the true nature of what this tragedy was, at which point Leo [asked], ‘Where’s the heart of it?’ And I said, ‘Well, the heart is that Molly and Ernest are in love.’ So he says, ‘So maybe I should play Ernest,’ and which point everything turned upside down…. And so the Bureau of Investigation did come in and solve a lot of the issues…but primarily it’s told, as much as possible, from the ground level in which the Osage and the European American were living together.”

 

Added DiCaprio: “As far-fetched as it may seem to others who see this movie — who are shocked at the atrocities that Ernest continues to commit and Molly’s understanding of what’s going on — it’s based on hard evidence and a sense of community from the Osage that in a lot of ways they have not openly talked about before. So here we are, 100 years later, bringing up these ghosts and the stories from the past in the actual locations and working with direct descendants of this tragedy.”

And Gladstone noted, “It was a different culture. It was a different time. It was a different period. But the most important element of all of it, for me, was that I was never alone on set. If I was uncertain about a choice I was making there was not just one but several Osage people in every level of production close at hand. It was great comfort as an actress and it’s also just essential because drawing on the culture in such a vivid way sets the scene.”

The criticism started at the film’s Los Angeles premiere, where an Osage language consultant who worked on the movie, Christopher Cote, expressed mixed feelings about the story’s focus to The Hollywood Reporter.

“As an Osage, I really wanted this to be from the perspective of Mollie and what her family experienced, but I think it would take an Osage to do that,” Cote said. “Martin Scorsese, not being Osage, I think he did a great job representing our people, but this history is being told almost from the perspective of Ernest Burkhart and they kind of give him this conscience and kind of depict that there’s love. But when somebody conspires to murder your entire family, that’s not love. That’s not love, that’s just beyond abuse.”

 

After the film was released Oct. 20, Reservation Dogs star Devery Jacobs blasted the movie in a scathing thread on X (formerly Twitter).

“Being Native, watching this movie was fucking hellfire,” she wrote. “Imagine the worst atrocities committed against yr ancestors, then having to sit thru a movie explicitly filled w/ them, w/ the only respite being 30min long scenes of murderous white guys talking about/planning the killings…. I don’t feel that these very real people were shown honor or dignity in the horrific portrayal of their deaths. Contrarily, I believe that by showing more murdered Native women on screen, it normalizes the violence committed against us and further dehumanizes our people.”

That said, Jacobs praised Gladstone’s performance: “Give Lily her goddam Oscar.”

On Tuesday, news broke that Flower Moon will receive the Vanguard Award at this year’s Palm Springs International Film Festival. The Vanguard Award is a group honor “distinguishing a film’s cast and director in recognition of their collective work on an exceptional film project,” according to the festival. Scorsese and stars DiCaprio and Gladstone will be presented with the award.

 

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[akatosh]

In three hours we will be able to watch the academy conversations:

 

 

New pics:

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[akatosh]

https://www.justjared.com/2023/11/16/leonardo-dicaprio-attends-robbie-robertsons-celebration-of-life-with-killers-of-the-flower-moon-collaborators/

 

[akatosh]

The interviews keep coming now 😊