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Martin Scorsese defends Killers of the Flower Moon's hefty runtime: 'It’s a commitment'

Legendary filmmaker Martin Scorsese faces criticism for the length of his movies, including his latest work, The Irishman, which ran for 209 minutes. Despite their extended duration, Scorsese's films have earned acclaim and solidified his status in Hollywood. His upcoming film, Killers of the Flower Moon, is 206 minutes long and once again the director is asked to defend the hefty runtime.

 

Martin Scorsese is one of the greatest filmmakers cinema has ever seen but there is a persisting belief among some that his movies are too long. His last film, The Irishman, clocked 209 minutes, the highest for him. But even other movies he has directed like Gangs of New York (168 mins), The Aviator (170 mins), Casino (178 minutes), Goodfellas (145 mins), and more are longer than your usual fare. That is, of course, because Scorsese has always tried to carve his own path and the acclaim he has received and the stature that he has enjoyed in Hollywood for decades is a testament to the fact that even as long as his movies are, they are damn good. His upcoming Killers of the Flower Moon clocks 206 minutes, just short of The Irishman. 

 

While he does not need to, Scorsese finds himself once again having to defend the hefty runtime of his film. While speaking to Deadline, he said, "The risk is there, showing in a theater in the first place. But the risk for this subject matter, and then for running time. It’s a commitment. I know I could sit down and watch a film for three or four hours in a theatre, or certainly five or six hours at home. Now, come on. I say to the audience out there, if there is an audience for this kind of thing, 'Make a commitment. Your life might be enriched. This is a different kind of picture; I really think it is. Well, I’ve given it to you, so hey, commit to going to a theater to see this.'"

 

"Spending the evening, or the afternoon with this picture, with this story, with these people, with this world that reflects on the world we are in today, more so than we might realise," he added. 

 

Killers of the Flower Moon is based on journalist David Grann's non-fiction book of the same name. It is scheduled to make its world premiere at the Cannes Film Festival on Saturday. 

 

With a budget of $200 million, the film boasts of an impressive cast, including frequent collaborators of Scorsese such as Leonardo DiCaprio and Robert De Niro. Joining them are Jesse Plemons, Lily Gladstone, Brendan Fraser, and John Lithgow, among other notable actors. 

 

After its Cannes premiere on May 20, Killers of the Flower Moon will release in select cinemas on October 6. It will then get a wider release on October 20. At one point, it will also be available for streaming on Apple TV+.

 

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Martin Scorsese on the joy of working with Leonardo DiCaprio: “He’s a natural film actor”

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Leonardo DiCaprio will once again team up with director Martin Scorsese to feature in his next film, Killers of the Flower Moon. DiCaprio has, of course, performed in several Scorsese movies over the years, including The Wolf of Wall Street and The Aviator.

 

In a recent interview between Scorsese and Deadline, the iconic film director opened up on the joys of working with someone like DiCaprio, calling him a “natural film actor”.

 

“What’s great about Leo, and it’s why we work together so often, is he goes there. He goes to these weird places that are so difficult and convoluted, and through the convolution, somehow there’s a clarity that we reach,” Scorsese said.

 

He continued: “And usually it’s in the expression, in his face, in his eyes. I’ve always told him this. He’s a natural film actor. I could shoot a close-up of him, he could be thinking of nothing, and I could intercut anything with it, and people will say, ‘Oh, he’s reacting to such and such’. It’s the Kuleshov experiment. You could do that with him”.

 

Scorsese didn’t stop there, though, and he continued to lavish praise on one of his most frequent collaborators. “There’s something in his face that the camera locks into, in his eyes,” the director added. “The slightest movement, we know it. Thelma [Schoonmaker], editing his footage with me over the years, often goes, ‘Look at this. Look at the eye movement here. I think we should keep it.’ It’s very interesting what goes on behind the eyes. It’s all there.”

 

Killers of the Flower Moon will be released on October 6th, 2023.

 

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Cannes: Native Actor Lily Gladstone Almost Quit the Biz — Then Scorsese Requested a Zoom

The star of 'Killers of the Flower Moon,' which premieres at the Cannes Film Festival, was registering for a data analytics course when the acclaimed director reached out to cast her opposite Leo DiCaprio, who says, “She became a source of guidance for all of us.”

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It was in August 2020, at the height of the COVID-19 pandemic, that Lily Gladstone — who had earned raves playing a lovelorn rancher in Kelly Reichardt’s 2016 indie Certain Women — started to consider a career change. “You just wonder if it’s going to be sustainable,” Gladstone, 36, recalls thinking during that professional dry spell. “So I had my credit card out, registering for a data analytics course.”

 

A self-professed “bee nerd,” she planned to apply for seasonal work with the Department of Agriculture tracking murder hornets — yes, murder hornets — that were wreaking havoc around the country at the time. But as she entered her credit card information, a Gmail notification alerted her to a request for a Zoom meeting with Martin Scorsese. The murder hornets would have to wait.

 

Three years later, Gladstone is approaching her Cannes Film Festival debut as one of the three leads — alongside Leonardo DiCaprio and Robert De Niro — in Scorsese’s latest film, a sprawling historical epic (three-and-a-half-hour runtime and a $200 million budget financed by Apple Studios) called Killers of the Flower Moon.

 

Based on the 2017 nonfiction best-seller by David Grann, the film re-creates a shameful chapter of U.S. history, when members of Oklahoma’s Osage Nation, who’d struck oil in the 1920s, were murdered by greedy white locals with designs on their money.

 

The real-life figure Gladstone plays in Killers is Mollie Burkhart, an Osage woman who married a white man — Ernest Burkhart, played by DiCaprio — only to find herself betrayed in ways that defy comprehension.

 

For Scorsese, all it took was seeing Gladstone’s work in Certain Women to know he’d found his Mollie.

 

“I could see that she trusted in simplicity,” says Scorsese, 80. “She understood her own onscreen presence as an expressive instrument that could speak for itself. That’s quite rare. Her silences, as Mollie, were often more powerful than her words.”

 

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If Gladstone’s screen presence is marked by stony reserve, her childhood was anything but. Raised by her father, who is of Blackfeet and Nimiipuu heritage, and her mother, who is white, on the Blackfeet Nation reservation in Browning, Montana, she describes herself as “an energetic and performative kid who got made fun of a lot — just that chubby mixed girl on the rez who had a little bit too much creative energy and not enough outlets.”

 

“But my dad always said, ‘It’s OK, honey. They’ll all want to be your friend when you win your Oscar,’ ” she adds.

 

For her first five years, Gladstone lived in a log cabin with a wood-burning stove. Food was limited to reservation commodities and her dad’s hunting, she says, “while my mom was off working to pay off grad school.”

 

Growing up in the foothills of the Rocky Mountains, she recalls “being snowed in nine months of the year.” Luckily, her dad and grandma were huge movie buffs with an extensive library of classics videotaped off cable TV.

 

“I was watching some pretty sophisticated things for a kid,” Gladstone says. “My first Marty [Scorsese] movie was [1997’s] Kundun. My dad loved Kundun.”

 

Three decades later, she was starring in a Scorsese picture opposite DiCaprio in what would be that megastar’s sixth feature collaboration with the directing legend. If that sounds like pressure, it was, but there was no time to be starstruck. Gladstone needed to locate the inner strength to embody Mollie.

 

She admits that for the first few takes opposite DiCaprio and De Niro, her hands trembled.

 

“Leo was kind of poking my ribs about that for the first few days,” Gladstone recalls of those early jitters. “But in a very sweet, self-aware, tongue-in-cheek way.”

 

The nerves quickly melted away.

 

“Lily has amazing presence and strength,” says DiCaprio, 48. “She spent months studying Mollie Burkhart and her family, working extensively to understand the intricacies of this woman, her relationship with Ernest and her legacy within the Osage community. As a Native actor, in a lot of ways, she became a source of guidance for all of us, Scorsese included, in terms of how we told the story.”

 

Gladstone and DiCaprio held dozens of meetings with Osage leaders and locals to ensure that their input was heard and incorporated.

 

“They shared personal stories that ended up changing the script and helped us flesh out the characters,” she says.

 

For example, during Mollie and Ernest’s first meal together, a thunderstorm occurs. Instead of shutting the doors and windows, Mollie implores Ernest to fall silent and pray through the storm.

 

That beat came from an Osage consultant, Wilson Pipestem, who recalled his grandmother doing the same. (Pipestem also plays his own grandfather, an Osage leader, in the film.)

 

For yet another layer of authenticity, Gladstone and DiCaprio learned to speak Osage for Killers. There are entire scenes in which Mollie and Ernest converse in Osage so as not to let white locals know what they’re saying.

 

“It was really important for the both of us,” says DiCaprio, “in fact, really important for the whole set to immerse ourselves with the Osage. It was only a natural decision for Lily and I to try and learn some of this beautiful language.” Adds Gladstone, “It’s a gift to be able to say these words.”

 

At the core of Killers of the Flower Moon is their relationship, a union sure to provoke heated debate on themes of race, love and betrayal. Scorsese admits to finding their dynamic “tricky” to tackle.

 

“What are they to each other? Does she see through him? Does he really love her? At a certain point, we all decided together that they were truly in love, no matter how crazy or impossible it seemed,” the director says.

 

It was Gladstone who helped shed some light by citing Graham Greene’s The Quiet American, a 1955 novel in which a love story between a CIA agent and a young Vietnamese woman serves as an analogy for America’s doomed involvement in Southeast Asia.

 

“That really clarified matters,” Scorsese says. “The sense of this central, extremely intimate relationship playing out as a microcosm of the wider betrayal of the Osage people.” Recalls Gladstone, “The one thing I said to Leo is: ‘I have to believe you love me. Otherwise, what kind of depth is Mollie allowed?’ “

 

Audiences can decide for themselves when Killers of the Flower Moon debuts May 20 at the Grand Théâtre Lumière at Cannes ahead of an Oct. 20 theatrical wide release.

 

Now in Vancouver filming Under the Bridge, a true-crime series for Hulu, Gladstone is pulling together a look for the Cannes red carpet that will highlight Indigenous artists. “There’s just so many incredible Native fashion designers right now who deserve that platform,” she says.

 

Indeed, the platform being provided by Killers of the Flower Moon is lost on no one. Says DiCaprio: “We all went in wanting to ensure this story of sinister conspiracies and terrible racial injustices was told correctly and with the utmost respect to the Osage nation.”

 

Adds Gladstone: “There’s a big can of worms that’s being opened. A lot of institutions need to be held accountable for this period of time. This movie just scratches the surface.”

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Haha so cute baby Lily in 1986 🥰

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I see GREAT minds think alike, Scorsese 'sees' the same things about Leo's expressive eyes that we do :thumbsup:

 

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He continued: “And usually it’s in the expression, in his face, in his eyes. I’ve always told him this. He’s a natural film actor. I could shoot a close-up of him, he could be thinking of nothing, and I could intercut anything with it, and people will say, ‘Oh, he’s reacting to such and such’. It’s the Kuleshov experiment. You could do that with him”.

 

Scorsese didn’t stop there, though, and he continued to lavish praise on one of his most frequent collaborators. “There’s something in his face that the camera locks into, in his eyes,” the director added. “The slightest movement, we know it. Thelma [Schoonmaker], editing his footage with me over the years, often goes, ‘Look at this. Look at the eye movement here. I think we should keep it.’ It’s very interesting what goes on behind the eyes. It’s all there.”

 

   

Thanks to ALL for latest Leo /KOTFM news :flower: 

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5 hours ago, oxford25 said:

I see GREAT minds think alike, Scorsese 'sees' the same things about Leo's expressive eyes that we do :thumbsup:

 

   

Thanks to ALL for latest Leo /KOTFM news :flower: 

 

Agree with Marty, Leo's eyes say everything. 

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Just now, Jade Bahr said:

This article is from yesterday.

 

‘Killers of the Flower Moon’ Trailer Tomorrow …

As mentioned a few days ago, unless some kind of last minute change occurs, we’ll be getting our first look at Martin Scorsese’s “Killers of the Flower Moon” tomorrow. A 90-second trailer I’m told.

 

Thanks for your reply 🙏 but I mean the timing

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'People need to know the history': Osage citizens excited, nervous as 'Killers of the Flower Moon' hits the big screen

The film Killers of the Flower Moon will premiere at the Cannes Film Festival Saturday in France. Osage citizens say they are anxious and hopeful that the movie sheds light on one of the worst chapters in the tribal nation's history.

 

When Osage Nation Principal Chief Geoffrey Standing Bear heard that David Grann's bestselling novel Killers of the Flower Moon was going to be made into a movie, he was concerned.

 

"We're used to Hollywood stereotypes and not being accurate to our language, our culture…and so that was always a concern," Standing Bear said.

 

Killers of the Flower Moon examines the story of the Osage murders in the 1920s after oil was discovered on Osage land.

 

Even when Standing Bear heard it was Martin Scorsese that was going to be directing it, he still had mixed feelings. Like a lot of other moviegoers, he is a fan of Scorsese's work.

 

Scorsese has directed some of the most iconic movies of our time — Goodfellas, Casino, The Departed, Age of Innocence, Gangs of New York — just to name a few.

 

Most of those films have scenes of violence, and Standing Bear was concerned how the murders of Osages would be depicted on the screen.

 

"How are you going to portray the Osage?" Standing Bear remembers asking him.

 

How will Osages be portrayed?

 

Standing Bear, who couldn't reveal more than that, said Scorsese was true to his word. The Principal Chief and other Osages who were involved or consulted on the movie are under a non-disclosure agreement and can't divulge details until the movie is more widely released this fall.

 

"I think Martin Scorsese said it best when I asked him, ‘how are you going to approach this story?’ And he said, ‘this is a story about trust and betrayal of that trust,’" Standing Bear told KOSU.

 

Scorsese met with people in the community of Grayhorse near Fairfax, where many of the murders took place. KOSU spoke with Osages who said they were impressed and that he listened to their concerns.

 

Standing Bear said he appointed people within his administration to work with Scorsese on the language, culture and customs depicted in the film, so it would be accurate. One of the people he appointed was the late John Williams, who was a special forces veteran who advised the director on accuracy. Williams consulted with Vann Bighorse, who works in the tribal nation's language and culture department.

 

"He had a chair right next to Scorsese," Standing Bear said.

 

He met with Scorsese before filming began and said the director talked about other films he directed that examined other cultures and racial violence — like 1997's Kundun, which is about the Dalai Lama and the Chinese government's violence on the people of Tibet. The movie was released but was never promoted due to pressure from the Chinese government. Despite this, it received critical acclaim and Academy Award nominations.

 

(...) The movie is sure to bring a lot of attention to the Osage Nation and Oklahoma. That attention could put pressure to return Osage headrights.

 

A history that ‘needed to be told’

 

Margaret Sisk, who had a small part in the movie, thinks it's time the story is told. She and other Osage citizens KOSU spoke with said they grew up hearing a little bit about it from relatives but knew that people were afraid to talk about it.

 

"Think about that…they lost their loved one," said Sisk.

 

But, she thinks people need to know about it and what happened to her people.

 

Sisk's mother, Mary Agnes Wagoshe Shannon had a guardian, an appointed person to manage her money. During the time of the oil boom, the federal government appointed guardians to Osage citizens because they were deemed 'incompetent' and unable to manage their own affairs. Osages had to apply for competency, and Sisk said there's still a highway named after her mother's guardian.

 

"It's part of history that needed to be told because it's not in Oklahoma history," she said, referring to the history Oklahoma students are taught. "It's Oklahoma's dirty little secret."

 

Killers of the Flower Moon will be in wide release this fall. It has a current run time of 3 hours and 26 minutes, and stars Lily Gladstone, Leonardo DiCaprio and Robert De Niro, among others.

 

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