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  1. Thanks Pink, you're right, it's never black and white. :flower:

     

    I don't have a messiah complex, so I won't write to SI or anything else just to try to change the way American people think. As this case shows it's not so easy. And it's not my responsibility. And tbh, I don't care. It's just really sad.

    And just for the record, I only kept talking about the topic, because my point was being called stupid and ridiculous. Well, it's always easier to be cynical than to be understanding and open to different opinions. 

    My lesson is learned, it's clear for me now, that calling someone fat is a HUGE insult over the ocean. I didn't know that. I don't undestand it, but fine, I accept it. I didn't change my mind about what I call healthy though.

  2. My problem is not Ashley on the cover. I have no issues with different bodytypes. 

    My problem is that they sell it as healthy. They can sell it, but not with headlines 'healthy'. And we're getting back to the point what we find healthy/overweight.

    It seems ppl living there are praising this, that's why they got this cover. Imo it's dangerous, seeing how huge problem obesity over there. 

  3. It's not about my fatphobia. 

    I hope you at least took your time and tried to understand what I'm talking about. Because it seems you not even try. It's easier to call my thoughts stupid and etc. And your idea about smoking and Kate Upton is nothing to do with fat acceptance. 

     

    I'm really sorry that you still don't get my point. 

    :flower: to @Kevork89, I guess you're the only one. (and jj, but you always knew) 

     

    Smoking won't show up on a cover. That's also a bad thing,but as far as I know noone started a campaign that let's smoke. I'm really sorry of your society.

    In the end of the day it's still better to be skinny, or extremely skinny than overweight. 

    Do your research if you don't believe me! Or at least read that Guardian article...

     

    I have never started over again btw if not that Cheryl video. 

     

  4. Kevork, you think right, I think that people will say that in the end if they get this in their faces from the media.

    Of course there are different bodytypes, and what VS does is another story, that's damaging too...

    But here I'm talking about fat acceptance. In my opinion Ashley is overweight. Lot of people find this comment rude here or dumb or idk what, but if you watch her in motion, you can see the extra fat on her. It's not only her bodytype. But don't go into that direction now again because that's not my point that Ashley's a pig or that I don't like her cover. I don't have problems with showing different bodytypes (btw where are small girls? where are flat girls? where is any Asian girl? etc...)

    My problem is that everyone in SI videos says this is healthy. That her body is healthy. She even says that average American size is 14 like hers. I think this is damaging. Average overweight American women will think that her body is fine and that she's healthy. Ok, accept your body, but don't say that you don't have any extra pounds. (any extra fat raises the risk of cancer, cardiovascular problems, diabetes...maybe she's healthy ATM...but surely won't be in a long run, as Cheryl Tiegs said).I would be totally fine with it, if they wouldn't promote it as healthy. Healthy body image is a different thing. Healthy body image is that when a fat woman can realize that she's fat and she needs to lose weight, then she doesn't have delusions about herself. I saw that Ashley's working out, don't know about her diet. Yes, we have different bodytypes, women's bodybuilding is even more complicated because of hormones, so yes, some people are lucky and don't have to do so much work, but some are unlucky and has to, to have an ideal body. Or let's not say ideal, but healthy. And here's the thing where we see this differently. What we find healthy...Once again I don't find Ashley's body so healthy. She can be healthy, if you mean by healthy that she has no high blood pressure, diabetes etc but imo that's not enough.

     

    You said even your sisters are talking about it in Australia...So what it is if not a promotion? Of course people have to deal with their bodies, and some people will never have a body like Hannah F has. But:

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  5. Well, it was rude to say that about Ashley, but I think her main point is clear. And that's not stupid at all.

     

    In a country where obesity is such a huge problem maybe they shouldn't promote it. (ok, I know, I know , you think that Ashley's not fat. or overweight.:cain:)

     

    http://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/feb/11/houston-health-crisis-diabetes-sugar-cars-diabetic

    This is a really interesting article about obesity and diabetes in Houston. 

     

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    For this group, obesity is so prevalent in Houston that it distorts an understanding of what a healthy weight is, Linder found. “Their perception of their health was affected by their peers as opposed to other sorts of references. If all of their peers were overweight then in a relative sense they were fine. The judgments were about one’s peers and not relative to any sort of expert standard,” he says.

     

    I guess it's true in the USA in general. That's why we can't agree. 

  6. 34 minutes ago, Cult Icon said:

    can somebody explain to me why Barbara Palvin has some impassioned fans?  Are a lot of them Hungarian?

     

    As an outsider, I don't see her modeling as that high profile.  She gets far more attention than say, Eniko Malick.

    I don't know why, I guess there are always too many things to talk about her. And no, those ppl are not always Hungarian. Weird assumption. 

     

    And you mean Eniko Mihalik probably. 

  7. 15 hours ago, Clauds said:

    And for Instagram this is what it looked like pre-SI

     

    Nina Agdal - 1.111.474
    Chrissy Teigen - 5.035.428
    Chanel Iman - 994.524
    Sofia Resing (Rookie) - 44.019 
    Irina Shayk - 4.998.693
    Bo Krsmanovic (Rookie) - 43.936
    Rose Bertram - 363.636
    Erin Heatherton - 679.157
    Gigi Hadid - 13.265.770 (most followed overall)
    Hannah Davis - 396.260
    Samantha Hoopes - 537.532
    Kate Bock - 143.921
    Tanya Mityushina (Rookie) - 39.329 (least followed rookie and overall)
    Kelly Rohrbach - 150.151
    Robyn Lawley - 144.146
    Lily Aldridge - 3.586.160
    Barbara Palvin (Rookie) - 2.901.102 (most followed rookie)
    Hailey Clauson - 148.235
    Hannah Ferguson - 211.830
    Emily Didonato - 783.776
    Ashley Graham (Rookie) - 1.065.211
     
    Model Search: 
    Ebonee Davis - 54.566
    Kyra Santoro - 744.191
    Daniela Lopez Osorio - 230.395
    Megan Williams - 1.026.659 (most followed MS girl)
    Nicole Meyer - 65.336

     

    And here's how it looks now

     

    Nina Agdal - 1.124.516 (+13.042)
    Chrissy Teigen - 5.145.461 (+110.033)
    Chanel Iman - 1.004.582 (+10.058)
    Sofia Resing (Rookie) - 48.083 (+4.064)
    Irina Shayk - 5.496.685 (+50.992)
    Bo Krsmanovic (Rookie) - 47.271 (+3.335) - least improved rookie
    Rose Bertram - 376.163 (+12.527)
    Erin Heatherton - 681.1769 (+2.612) - second least improved lolol
    Gigi Hadid - 13.563.742 - (+297.972) - most improved overall
    Hannah Davis -  406.569 (+10.309)
    Samantha Hoopes - 549.752 (+12.220)
    Kate Bock - 148.418 (+4.497)
    Tanya Mityushina (Rookie) - 42.702 (+3.373) 
    Kelly Rohrbach - 153.537 (+3.386)
    Robyn Lawley - 146.128 (+1.982) - least improved overall o.o
    Lily Aldridge - 3.608.564 (+22.404)
    Barbara Palvin (Rookie) - 2.917.254 (+16.152) - second most improved rookie
    Hailey Clauson - 191.978 (+43.743)
    Hannah Ferguson - 224.178 (+12.348)
    Emily Didonato - 792.333 (+8557)
    Ashley Graham (Rookie) - 1.267.860 (+241.201) - most improved rookie + cover girl and second most improved overall
     
    Model Search: 
    Ebonee Davis - 59.601 (+5.035)
    Kyra Santoro - 751.430 (+7.239)
    Daniela Lopez Osorio - 237.644 (+7.249)
    Megan Williams - 1.061.135 (+34.476) - most improved from the MS

    I think the real winner is MJ. She has 126k instagram followers atm. I think it's a lot more than a week ago. Haha

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