No. We like ridiculously, implausibly hot chicks that you can never find IRL. And when I saw Kelly at the NYSE I thought that those guys must be thinking that they'll see hotter girls when they go out to bars after work. I'm still not convinced this is true for the majority. Most of my guy friends/guys I've dated, as well as users on some of the heavily male sites that I frequent, could give two craps about models, even really hot ones, and spend most of their time instead looking at their FB friends' bikini pics, random hot girls on Instagram, and amateur photobucket rips. And I think there's a reason porn stars like Lexi Bloom are so popular. Or that Girls Gone Wild exploded in the 90s. My understanding was that "normal hot" = more attainable = easier to fantasize about having sex with. But of course I like the implausibly hot ones. So it would be more fun for me if more guys I knew were into the fantasy chicks like I am, lol. Yeah, I was mostly kidding before. I don't understand it but I've seen how guys fawn over average looking gingers and the like. Maybe because they are more likely to be as virginal as the nerds that like them. And I just know there are nerds creating bots for Erin to win ROY only because I know they have terrible taste and she had time to build a fanbase with them. No, I agree that not everyone was necessarily coming from a racist standpoint. Some here and there might have been, there's no way to tell, although statistically there were probably at least a few. But yes, people were all over Charlotte M, Emily R, Kate U back in the day, etc. I didn't/don't like that either. Half the time it seems totally baseless, or only because the girl has big boobs and hasn't stuck to a Lara Stone type of career, or just because they don't particularly like the model and have no better criticism to level. It's an over-the-top insult for something that is so rarely grounded in anything rational, and comes off both lazy and like something a catty high school girl would say (which makes sense, since some of the users on this board are probably young enough to actually BE high school girls). Seeing people say "omg Rose she is so slutty looking" in their broken English really rubbed me the wrong way because, while all of the aforementioned girls actually HAVE adopted some pretty 90's Playboy-esque looks in the past or present (not that I care), Rose's pics were just some chick doing what every single other model was doing. Hell, Hailey Clauson even had the no-holds-barred "f**k me, I'm a pornstar" open-mouth stare going on in some of her pics (not that I'm complaining, that's for sure), and yet Rose was OMG SO CHEAP! because her pics involve poses that 99% of every other SI swim model has used?? If anything she was too tame in some of her shots, even some of the naughty ones still have the "I'm so HAPPY!" cheer and joy of a tampon ad. tl;dr Why can't everyone have the sexily European sensibilities of frenchkiki? I didn't get to be a mean girl in high school but I like to make up for that on the internet now. Charlotte and Sam Hoopes had valid criticisms leveled at them imo and they have pretty much gone on to validate those opinions with their behavior and their ear-splitting high-pitched voices. But it's not a crime or anything. I am on the fence with Charlotte being in SI next year. How she handles herself this next year is important imo. There were a lot of pics of Rose to analyze and compare with other models so I don't think it's really fair to judge other poster's opinions as being invalid. Especially since more than one poster was saying similar things. I do agree with what you are saying about Rose. Earlier I thought that she could have been shooting a toothpaste ad if you, ya know, cropped out her giant boobs.