
Everything posted by Souled-Out
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^ maybe but I think she still has some time from that. Last time it was shot spring/summer. It could be different this time around but, she doesn't have to be in the best shape just to host a show. She could just be trying to get back in the groove period because its important but I do hope its also linked to her career
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We can't say for sure she won't be there still but pretty much. I hope she keeps the motivation going
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" It's not because she looks pregnant that she is pregnant" That makes no sense. "What does that have to do with it all?" What does what other users do have to do with it all? What does you always talking about what me and other people say (because I am not the only one who has argued with you recently) have to do with it all? You want to talk about what people frequently say and do here? How about yourself, you're constantly arguing to other users about what they choose to talk about and how, even though its related to models. I have had this very issue with you from day one. I have talked to administrative on here because it was so bad the first time. And those admins and other users had to tell me, you do this all over the forum. Then you have the nerve to want to talk like this at a person who is more on topic than you will ever be. One thing for sure, This is an Adriana Lima's forum. All that comes out closely related to her will be discussed, old or new. That is what this is for. New candids of her come out. Its gonna be posted here. If its gonna be posted here, it will be discussed.If there is someone else all up in the photos, that person will be talked about too. Atleast we spend more time using the forum for what its actually made for. You always ask that "whats this going, to do, whats that going to do" What the fuck does arguing with other users about their choices is going to do? This is a forum about Adriana. If you don't like, you can't take, or you can't be silent about people talking about her and things related to her so much on a forum that is about her, it would be very smart to get off. I don't know what I have to say have to do with "it all" but I will utilize this forum in the way that it is meant to be PS people don't "analyze" what the hell she eats, she either tells us herself or someone posts it
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*sigh* Who was the user who said everybody else is just laughing at Adriana for all of this, they might be right It turns out those dailmail comments actually weren't much in metin's favor. They don't really say bad things about her specifically but her dating choices, especially this one. But to be real Don Billy, thats what happened. Literally a month before meeting him Adriana was married to herself.
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People still think she is pregnant. Everytime people think that, she has gained a significant amount of weight. The last time this happened, was in 2014-2015. Only people kept asking her on social media because she posted on there, and she'd answer herself everytime "No, its too many carbs and desserts". Sure enough, she has been eating like that again. Your metabolism slows down when you get older, even if she worked out, alot of carbs is going to slow down the process. We saw what she has been eating in the paparazzi candids. We see it in her ig stories. Another fellow fan told me about her chef's ig stories and what he cooks, he posts what he makes for her everytime. So, she has gained weight and its to the point where people are thinking she is pregnant again. Even some days I wonder it, and I usually know better because Adriana is not one to get pregnant before marriage. If she gained enough weight for alot of people to think that then I am not confident she would be walking hf shows or anything. I mean, she does choose to be like that when she isn't working for a reason. Please. I have tried my best to not talk about metin as much as possible lately. I am going to when the newest content of her that comes out are pics of them and thats literally the only thing about her that has came out the last two months. He is not avoidable. It is no longer possible to talk about Adriana without mentioning him because she hasn't been doing anything herself and she keeps posting boring things on social media, so its nothing to talk about really, besides the food she has shown on there ofcourse, but some of that still goes back to him because that was a turkish dessert.So yeah, There is nothing else going on for us to talk about her as an individual. And if she wasn't with him and she looked like that, I would still mentioned she looked off, I have done it before. The only difference is I wouldn't be able to list a possible reason. Ofcourse I wouldn't list him as a possibility if he literally wasn't one. But I would still say she doesn't look the happiest. I have done it when she was single FYI
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I didn't say you did. I say I and OTHERS did. I didn't say you. She was not glowing in Berlin nor geneve. She barely smiled in Geneve, people thought she got work done and and her smiles were obviously forced in berlin, as I pointed out. And that bad quote about loyalty was when he came back to her. We can't say it was about him, but it was obviously a quote that didn't correlate with happiness. Yes her kids do have school, that makes it worse. That means there is even less alone time with her to have with her kids than I estimated. Even though school isn't on weekends. Not that it matters because Metin has also been there on weekends. It doesn't matter, if he wasn't there, they clearly would have more alone time with her and somebody from actual family. And I as well as others do think its toxic to remain in a relationship that obviously had her following-unfollowing him like crazy and posting hinting quotes. She made it very obvious how things were like at certain times. She always does. We have never been wrong about that. Thats how those rumors of them breaking up started in the first place. After that he damn near ran to miami when she came back from dubai. That is toxic behavior. Thats not even counting all the things he did, liking those insulting comments about her I don't think just because he looks different than who she has dated, thats why she is holding on. I can see that but I think its deeper than that. And as I said, its probably something we just don't know. But thats called settling too, if she thinks its bad karma to not date him because his height is different. All we can figure is Adriana wasn't feeling the same about him but she is staying anyway. You don't have to be happy to settle. You can be desperate, you can be forgiving, you can be selfless, you can be too nice, not necessarily happy.
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Surprising I agree. Its funny I, as well as others here, think we have it all figure out until we see them together. Like its literally puzzling. Its weird. Its like watching the NYE footage all over again. Something is off. And no matter how much he tries, alot of people see that. And for some reason she is going along with it all. Like you said,we just don't know why. Because as far as what our eyes can see, something isn't looking natural or usual. But all of this is costing her. Its really bringing her down and he is in the way between her and everything, even her family. I say her family because, he has been there for nearly a month. He made it clear he has been staying with her, and so with that, her kids can't just have 24 hours alone with their mom. Sure, they can have some hours if Adriana takes them somewhere, but not a full day. IDK why she is still letting herself be involved in an obviously toxic relationship. Is she trying to give him another chance? Is she trying to prove people wrong? Does she just want someone to be some needy slave around her? Its something because Adriana has never look so distant from someone the way she has been him lately (not just here but the NYE party). It looks like she is settling basically. And as I said, she just doesn't seem that happy. Clearly I am glad she stopped worshiping him the way she did, because it was just too much . But I just feel like she has her reason of why she stopped that and why she chose to unfollow him. And its good she stopped giving him that much power, but what makes it toxic is to stay with someone afterwards. After you nearly called it off with him. To top it off, she isn't glowing while with him. Its clear as day now he is a leech. As soon as she comes home from work, she has to pick him up and he stays for 4 weeks at her home? They didn't even vacation.He is just living with her. That says something else too. They could have went somewhere with all this time because she hasn't done anything.
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True. But its not even the location mainly but his interactions that makes this look PR like. He is trying REALLY hard. And we all know why. And it doesn't help that Adriana isn't interacting with him in the same way
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Also, she still doesn't look happy. And she does not look in love. When will he go home and stop bringing her down? Why does she look like that around him all the time but still lets him bring her down? Does he not think that maybe her kids want more alone time with their mom? On the forum I was talking about, the people who love her and they know nothing about metin, just saw the pics, they feel like she is being paid/forcing herself to be with him. Even on the dailymail, they like metin mostly, but thinks she doesn't look into it. Obviously, here we know the lengths Adriana has taken for him, but her vibe and interaction doesn't match... It does make you wonder. Like is she just still with him to prove people wrong ? It looks like to alot of people she is trying to settle.
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Also, these were posted on another forum. They have no idea about them, they love adriana. They have nothing against metin, and they said the pics looked very set up to them. Like they think she paid him to date her. Obviously thats not true, but it says something when unbiased people also think these photos look PR like
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I am doubtful. She is obviously gaining weight. And even though she is hitting the gym some days. We have seen from social media and those pap photos that her diet is not good. That was a turkish dessert she posted and her and metin also got ice cream today. Majority of what she has cooked has been alot of carbs and desserts. And ofc she gains weight when she eats like that. She isn't prepping like someone who is going to fashion week. So, I am not gonna give my hopes up when she will probably continue to be at home and eat/cook all day with Metin.
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You can tell which pictures are before and after he notices the cameras.
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^ you know Adriana wouldn't have minded having him going with her. I can't confidently say she didn't reject another job because of a guy clearly. But I don't see her doing that, because Metin has been there for a long time anyway. He has been there for three weeks. Two days without her for some events would have been fine. Plus, when she was with Joe, she atleast went to the SB jobs. So, I think its safe to say, she didn't have anything to do this year. Sure, she only had one SB event last year, but the thing is leather and lace always asked her to do something. It is very likely after she cancelled on them due to her relationship with Julian and she did it last minute, they didn't want to try for her again. That's why we all scolded her here for that. You can burn bridges letting a man come in-between you and your work, only for it to not even work out in the end. We literally saw this coming when we realized she canceled that job last year. We always see these things coming. She never does and refuses to and then get mad at her fans (and it looks like family members) about it.After she made that IG post about the clothes thing she deleted comments fans were making saying Metin was the influence behind it. Only for metin to like a comment that confirmed he lead her into saying something like that. I also remember the warnings about her and joe, when we all talked about how joe was holding her, like with metin, fans were on his profile talking about that, and she blocked those fans. She did that for him and he turned out to be one of the worst of her exes. I hate joe for what he did to her but you can't tell me that wasn't karma. Because all of her fans, just like with metin, were just concerned for her with Joe and she chose to block them for that. Days later, they had a terrible break up. Atleast she no longer goes as far as blocking people for what they say about metin, but its obvious that she is still getting mad at everybody else, just for seeing what she can't and trying to warn her, looking out for her. But its not what she wants to hear, so she does what she wants and gets mad at them. Thats not right. And it wasn't right to cancel a job for a guy who you're just dating. Its like she doesn't think about how this all can just comes back negatively on her in the end. You have to do right. Even if she feels like her friends/family/fans are just being assholes , she still shouldn't be vengeful/react badly because she will continue to attract that very same poison.
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You're right. Thats mighty ironic. I doubt there would be awkwardness because Adriana and Julian made proper peace, she literally released a statement saying that. According to a post she liked she still is rooting for the pats. So in the end, she doesn't have too hard feelings towards julian. And If its about metin, he is 36 years old. He should be secure enough for her to attend a superbowl festivity. The odds of her and julian running into each other would have been very slim. So the reason she isn't doing anything for the SB, probably isn't because of awkwardness. The leather and lace people always had her do an event. And its more than likely she didn't get that this year, because last year she cancelled one of their events last minute because of a man. A man that she broke up with shortly after all of this.... I know Adriana liked a post about not judging the next guy because of your past, "everyone is different". But what about herself? Is she going to continue to let a guy impact her career and chances? She can think each person she meets is different all she wants, but what's more important is that she doesn't make the same mistakes herself Ofcourse this is just our assumptions but it is another terribly ironic thing that we have noticed. And its no secret Adriana is on that path again, where a man she dates influences her and her decisions about her job/life. You'd think that since her and Julian didn't work out she would have learned not to be that way. Don't sacrifice your sources of survival(money) and end up burning bridges in the industry for someone you have been dated for some months, because if you break up, whats gonna happen? What happened is she has one less job that was always given to her. That's why people are so perplexed about this metin thing and how we think he is behind alot of the decisions she has been making (well he admitted that himself) and the way she has been acting towards her career and fans, all because of a dude. Don't make someone your home, because if they leave, where are you going to go? As always the main point is, Adriana has to start thinking about the future affects of the decisions she makes.
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I don't think Kate doesn't have a social media so that she "won't sell anything". I don't think she cares about something like that. She doesn't even care about having a clean image. Thats probably why she doesn't have a social media she is older and from a completely different generation and doesn't care for it. It was a reprint of a british GQ editorial, that was also based on social media. Thats why people like jasmine sanders (who barely got real modelling work at that time) was featured. I stand by what I say, Adriana reached her true peak in her career in the middle of the social media era (2014) and thats probably why people forget she is a 00's models and why someone like her should do a better job on and keeping their social media, and not delete it.
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It looks like ana bb’s wedding
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She needs to because there is no other way in an industry like modelling that she will continue to get by if she doesn't care . I don't think there is anyway you can get by in the pop culture industry period without trying to maintain your relevance . Adriana does not have a typical job, someone like her does need to keep their social media. If she isn't going to use her social media as a way for people to keep interest and for the industry to keep interest, she could atleast be working more. But we don't know if thats by choice or not..the maybelline and IWC events were the last things she did since Early December. Its going on three months and she hasn't done anything. Candice also isn't from this new era, she started in 2007, as referenced to before. She was an angel before IG was even created. She did all the thing same things Adriana is doing now and look where it got her when she finally came back. And thats a model who isn't actually from the social media era neither, she just gained bigger success in it because she was always good at it. But Adriana managed because of her name and she was working ALOT in the middle of the social media age, so she had social success too, it just came in a different way for her. None the less, neither of these models are from this era. But one has managed to be badly impacted by inactivity on social media and the industry. (people wondering why we kept seeing paparazzi photos of pregnant candice, thats why. PR stunt, to keep things going while she isn't working .Those PR methods are working for candy but Adriana would probably rather let her career die before doing something like that, so she shouldn't let it get to that point if she still wants to be who she is ) I didn't say someone literally said she isn't regarded as 00's model, I meant it seems people forget it. She doesn't typically get grouped with the early 00's models. Probably because the height of her career came in 2014 not 2004. And because she is still an angel. Up until this point, Adriana maintained so much, but she also achieved things so much later in her career, she didn't even start going to the MET until 2014, I think this is why people forget how long she has been around and which era she belongs to. I don't think its unrealistic to expect some kind of work when we have named countless of models who are adriana's age, close to it, and older and they have done more thus far. Even models like Alessandra, who is also now half retired and her career has never been better than adriana's. But she has a cover already.
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Well, my thing always is how it makes her look and the affect it could have on her career. I realize I am in the minority who thinks her lack of social media activity will impact her actual career. But I look at it like this: If she isn't working. If she doesn't have any new material coming out. if she isn't being seen. If VS isn't use her, how can she expect people to remember and continue to care about her? Esp at her age. Its just not gonna happen on its own.You all can argue that social media is nothing for her (even though I don't think thats entirely true, she got somewhere before social media but all the greater things she gained in the social media era says something) but what you guys can't argue against is that some kind of popularity and relevance is needed to keep a career in the industry ,you have to actually do something to maintain that. And right now, Adriana has absolutely nothing going on to keep that going for her. Her last saving grace would be social media, but she is lacking there too. Unfollowing = Lost of interest. Thats been happening with her in and outside of social media. And this is what I mean about the start of a decline. Popularity and relevance just doesn't keep itself up. And the speculation amongst her fans of why she has been lacking all of this and seeming so careless about her career and being professional (her bf influence/presence or to teach some "lesson" to her fans) doesn't help making her look better neither and its another thing that throws fans off from her. Its a double negative, unless she is ready to retire, something has to give.
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Kate moss is a known former drug addict. Some speculate she still does drugs by her actions these days(partying, fighting on planes).. Lol. So, I don't think image is the motivation for her lack of social media. Probably her age or something. I can see it being important for Gisele, but Gisele is also very smart when it comes to her brand and career. So ofcourse, she does what she is supposed to. I think its important because she is a model people have mentioned social media about with. You mentioned the prime of her career, and her career was at its best in 2014, right in the middle of social media age. And Last year she was nominated by models.com for "social media" star. Her last GQ cover, was about social media stats. She gains from it, so I think if it can give her things, it can take away things if its not doing well. For sure her followers will slip obviously they have, but it won't be the only thing. obviously her own image becomes at stake too because of how she chooses to approach social media. Like I said, she doesn't have to quit or silence herself or follow back every model, but be smart about how she handles it and do it safely. Don't give people room to look at you badly. Even with her lack of posting it leaves a bad impression because we think she isn't posting because of a guy or because she is resisting to because she knows that what some fans want to see from her.
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Honestly, since she isn't even working she could atleast be posting something. Thats another thing about social media, we wouldn't have to miss her as much. Before social media, Adriana was a younger model AND VS used her alot. So, we didn't have to wait that long for content from her. But now she is older, she isn't working, we all know VS isn't using her right now, a decent post on her social media would be good. But like I said, she is either purposely refusing to share herself or lets not forget, Metin is still with her. And she does lack posting when she is around a guy. So, maybe she isn't giving social media/her followers a hard time, it could be because he is there... Thats scary because, Metin doesn't seem like a busy person. By the time he leaves Adriana will be at 11.5 million followers again. But I can't fully say that he is the cause because he posts all the time still.. Why would she not post because she is so busy with him when he finds alot of time to post something? So, it may not be because he is around. All I know is, she is underestimating how her habits on social media impacts her. I won't call her a disgrace to social media, but I honestly don't understand why she can't ever be normal on there? Why can't there be a good balance of content? She doesn't have to leave social media. She doesn't even have to silence herself there. But it would be nice of her to approach social media in a way that won't make her supporters feel stupid for supporting her the way they have. I think every single thing that Adriana has said and done on social media that was "problematic", could have been handled in a much better way to where its not easy to talk badly about her. She does NOT have to follow back fellow angels, but she could have unfollowed them at a time where it wouldn't have been obvious. I guess she can share her personal career decisions about not talking her clothes off, but she could have done it with clarity and disclaimer that she wasn't talking about VS. She doesn't have to post a selfie if she doesn't feel cute or something, or if she is too busy, but she could post throw back/random pics of her past OR most recent work (like Maybelline). If she wants to post a quote to express her feelings, she can do that, but if its negative, don't leave it up there for more than a week and turn people away with the bad vibes. I don't understand why is it hard for her and her team to run her account in away that will prevent damage to her?
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^she is a model. Thats always my main point, social media apart of her job now.Even as a public figure it is. Gisele is semi retired and she is Gisele it doesn't matter at all for her. Kate moss is in her 40s, she is kinda retired herself. It doesn't matter for her neither. But Adriana is not kate moss. I think its necessary for her. I think that her follower count will not be the only thing that is declining if she keeps this up. You see how her follower count is going down at the same time she isn't working? The industry barely looks at adriana as a 00's model, even though thats what she is. They have made it clear she is moving along and fitting in with the industry today. So, just like models today tend to be affect by social media relations, so will she. Adriana isn't half retired like Gisele and Kate. She can't afford to just not be on there, especially if she is still a VS model. Thats big to them. There is no VS model that doesn't use social media. Lol it makes no sense to tell her to be like Kate moss, Kate was a 90s model. It makes more sense to compare her to Gisele who is also a 00's model, who also has a social media. To call her a "disgrace to social media", uhh. I can see why you said that. Because Adriana is sometimes either very transparent on there or so confusing with her actions, she comes off as bizarre. Like there is no inbetween with her. You can either read her like a book via social media or she does things that makes you question her. And its like why does she has to be that way? Why can't she just be normal about it like everybody else? Why can't she just do this one things for her followers who support her? For example, her most recent post, I am going to be honest and say I feel like she just posted that because she needed to post something, and it was good. Whatever anybody opinion on the matter is their opinion, but it was a positive thing and it was empowering. But to be real, I feel like for some reason Adriana is purposely avoiding posting "interesting" stuff. Maybe because of her comment to Jourdan (Jourdan mentioned social media )? I can't really rationalize that, it just feels that way to me. Its like, she doesn't want to post what people/she usually does on social media but she knows she has to post something because its been a long time, so she went with that quote While that was better, thats also annoying. Because I feel like she is just giving her followers a hard time. She knows what they want to see from her. Literally in the comments I see fans begging and she refuses to post those things. I feel like most of the time, Adriana is like that, thats why she never had as many followers as she should. Its like she thinks her fans shouldn't care so much about what she posts on social media and how much. I also think she fails to realize that in the end its REALLY going to affect HER more than anybody else. Sure, her fans may be disappointed by what she posts or lack of posting, but in the end of the day, its her who is gonna lose followers. So its gonna be her who may experience a decline in her relevance and career. (How ELSE are people supposed to remember she exists. She isn't working. VS isn't using her. Literally how else do people suppose to remember her) and this will cause a decline in her success. Causing a decline in supporting herself, her family, and her boyfriend. I don't think Adriana ever looks at the bigger picture of things. She does things without looking at the affects and who it can negatively impact in the end or what kind of person she may look like.
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Update. She is still going back towards 11.5. Her last post was better in terms of leaving a quote on her page. Like I said, its better that the first thing people see when they go to her profile is a positive quote, not a negative quote. But, the decline is still happening and now her "Daily Average" gain, which is how much she gains each day is dropping more too. It went from 1K, to 900K to 800K I think this is both because of what she has been posting and the lack of her posting on her feed period. Not everybody is going to see IG stories, so it doesn't help. Its not some "problem" in the system, other models and people are fine. And its honestly obvious why she is losing so much.Its not like there isn't a reason for this to be happening, its not mysterious. No work has been done/Came out + She hasn't posted anything related to herself on her profile, she hasn't provided anything for people to keep interest with her.
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^ Well, I have never been candice's biggest fan. And I have admitted in the past I watched how both Adriana and Candice were towards each other on social media. And I did say when Candice was younger, she rubbed me the wrong way with her attitude towards certain models. But I also admit that I don't think she is like that anymore. I think as she has gotten older and has become a mom herself and wiser that she gained maturity and REAL wisdom. Like its natural. She seems more mature and I think smarter about her career and image and how she is towards certain people/things. I mean, yeah Adriana isn't family, But her name has significance in VS. You can't do anything with malicious intent to somebody like her without others reacting.The last thing Candice or any of the other angels should have done, was add fuel to the fire that Adriana started. When Adriana did what she did, Candice particularly was already in Belize. She was far away from VS. Same for the other models.I don't think VS instructed them anything. I am sure she and all the other angels made the decision to not react and not unfollow Adriana back, because they saw that Adriana herself had already caused alot of commotion. Them reacting to it would literally cause even more. They knew better. And I am not gonna try to knock models who actually know whats best to do when you are a public figure and your survival in this world depends on what you do publicly and how you treat people So, I don't think its about forgetting how Candice was. Its knowing how she is now. Its also knowing how Adriana is now, she is a whole new person to us. She is taking step backs in life. Everybody else is moving forward and trying to protect their brand. Adriana is moving backwards and she doesn't give a fuck anymore. And no, I am not saying this just because of her unfollowing angels, I am taking into account the whole IG post thing and her activity as a model and public figure and as person(because someone who was a close friend obviously spoke out against her changing). Someone just talked to me today, they saw Gisele had a new Vogue Italia cover, and they were like, "Gisele is semi retired, ofc Gisele has always been Gisele, but why can't adriana just be a little bit as active with her career now too." I told them, lol we are asking for VS events, Superbowl events, Fashion week stuff and Vogue Covers.... Asking for all of that when Adriana won't even post herself on her social media anymore, let alone do something more solidified for her career. She just doesn't care and thats the difference between her and everybody else right now. Atleast Candice also has kids to worry about and tend to, she also has a boyfriend that she is with now, but she still getting shit done at the same time, so that her career will be alright after she gives birth again. Adriana has similar circumstances but she is doing the opposite, so yeah, people are gonna forget how Candice was, she has positively grown and is starting her own business and stuff. She isn't my top favorite model but its the truth
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Better.
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Nope, because I don't think they give older angels that anymore. lily was apart of the campaign but lily is still newer compared to Adriana. Its just not meant for the older angels to do it I think lol. Who knows when Adriana's next VS event will be. I doubt they will be opening more stores because the brand is said to be declining. Its true that they always style her good and do her makeup so well but part of the reason why Adriana's career wasn't that good last year is because she did have to work for VS way more compared to the other later years. VS gets in the way alot... but it doesn't really matter this year I guess because the year hasn't started off good with Adriana's career, it might just be worse than last year. So I guess she may as well get called up by VS a few times. That's if Adriana is going to spend the rest of the year, the way she is right now. If she still wants to work regular jobs, I prefer VS back off a bit.