Souled-Out

I mean 1. Its hypocritical. 2. People here and some others feel like its a partial message to those who said something about her weight gain, And those who don't like metin and views him as shady. Which is the media yes, but also alot of her fanbase and she is trying to blame them for some deep issues they have...and thats partial delusion Essentially, she is dismissing what people, who actually care for and looking out for her, say as "conspiracy" and pretty much blaming those same people on any kind of strain that is going on in her life/relationships on them. First of all, that has never even happened, public words have never played this much of a role in her relationships. And she respond like this because she knows alot of fans/media/ even her friends (remember Tamera), see her bf as manipulating her constantly, and doing wrong actions, so they build sensible opinions from there, plus he has literally upset her before himself, she has made that known. So yeah people are going to say things and its not gonna be nice, and what people say should be keeping her up at night and should keep her woke, as well as the other things he has done that she didn't like. Because it might just do her some good and save her. But instead she calls it x,y, and z and she tells people to realize how powerful their words are when she caused a huge uproar in the industry she works in, dissed it and possibly messed up a long respectful relationship she had with VS because she wasn't careful with her own words neither. And the dude who she seems to be partially making this post for, is the same dude who took credit for all that mess, while also implying she wasn't modest without him and had to be taught that. Adriana is going to let this man ruin her. And alot of fans are getting sick of it. People are still trying to hold on, and only wants the best for her, and now she wants to point the finger at them just because she chooses to stay with a man who has shady and toxic tendencies and she knows it. Thats the issue. The fact that she is trying to basically blame "public words" on whatever is going on between them says something. Because the public has never mattered that much. But it does now? Probably because she doesn't even want to attempt to really look at metin and the things he has done that has upset her and has caused everybody to look at him sideways, and truly ask herself if she deserved better. If words are putting an effect on your relationship, its more than a conspiracy. Its much easier to blame it on the public than confronting the things that have happened and how they made her feel and her realizing she probably has another mistake on her hands. If part of the post was about people talking about her weight gain, I understand and I do think some of the post was about that. I understand her dodging social media to avoid those comments. Because its just not necessary to say she is pregnant and she isn't. But with the other stuff, I don't care how nicely she tried to phrase it, the post is hypocritical and she is struggling to keep an open mind. Its just like the other times in the past when she didn't react in a better way to people being concerned for her and looking out for her (joe), and blew it up in her face and it ended in the same exact way her fans knew it would. Do she realize how scary it is knowing how correct we end up being everytime? I will never wish bad on her nor anybody. But to be real, and from her history of doing things like this and just knowing how karma works, if anybody really needs to be careful, its Adriana. And thats not a "conspiracy" theory, that's learning from the past and looking at what is happening now. She is literally admitting to some kind of struggle with her personal relationships and stuff, there is a reason for that struggle and its not just other people's comments. Its deeper but she isn't focused on that. She doesn't want the reason for things to go bad to be based off of what public have said, thats understandable but this is the first time public comment had an effect, thats because intuition is involved somewhere too.

Yes, her post was pretty hypocritical as well as unrealistic. Like I also said before, all that trust in human doesn't make sense. We just aren't perfect. Just be grateful people are still trying to stand by your side and be fans of you, even though you keep making it hard. And I honestly think one of the reasons behind it, its this whole metin shit, she pretty much said the same thing she told that user under his post. Its her way of expressing frustration because alot of people don't like him for her or they make assumptions based off the things he does/says and so she calls them "conspiracy". and honestly it kinda pisses me off because people aren't being malicious. There is literally a reason for what people say and its provoked by his/hers actions. Don't point fingers to randoms. And thats the difference between how Adriana violates her caption and with how the public/fans violates the caption. Adriana not being careful with her words herself in that empty causes posts effected a brand/people she actually knew and is closely associated with. But the public is just the public. Their power in your relationships and stuff, can only go so far. All this time the public constantly disliked Adriana's bfs, and we were always right in the end, they did end up being bad for her/it ended. However, never did she break up with the guys because of the public, never did she say she had problems with the guy because of the public. Because she shouldn't. It was always between them. And thats how its always been with Adriana and any friendship or anything she had. She never felt the need to say, "other people's words are effecting things between me and ___" What makes this relationship or whats going on any different? Since when did the public words have this much power in her personal life? Never. You know why, because its not truly the public's fault, its the person/people who are closer to her,. As I said, she has to remember their own roles. Thats why when she made that comment under the a1 account I said, "I hope she remembers the whole reason why somebody made the comment that they did, metin literally allowed for it". I guess she did not remember who allows for it nor remember whose fault it really was. Its not the public, its just easier to blame the public, instead of herself and the person she is with. I do think some of her post does come from like the pregnancy speculations and all that too.I still think the reason she didn't want to post herself on her feed because of the weight she carried. And I understand that part. However, its still sad to see her that insecure suddenly. But she is older, and perhaps it gets harder to remain that confident. So, I don't shame her for writing because of that reason. But that whole "conspiracy" part thats possibly linked to the metin stuff, I am not going for that one. That is way deeper than just people's words. The public's words never had an effect on that area of her life in the past, so it still shouldn't now. If it does, thats because its more than just an issue with the public. Period.

I don't know how I feel about this. Because she is 36 years of age. She has been a public figure for 19 years, so she has dealing with this for that long. She has had other times in her life, where she was unnecessarily criticized, judged, AND speculated upon and she didn't even bat an eye most of the time. So, she is just now saying something like this . That couldn't be more backwards, and it surely doesn't help that her words mirrored what she said on the a1 account to that user under the photo metin posted. Now I understand, she is a celebrity and sometimes they get tired and don't want to deal with things. I do know she was speculated because of her weight gain, so there is that. I understand her confronting that. But its honestly like where does this come from with her? It really seemed like what others said didn't bother her this much, she always did what she wanted and was herself no matter the complaints on social media/in the news. Hell, when she dated julian, she experienced the most intense and totally unnecessary hate but she still went on with her life. Yes, things have been very negative lately, we all know but this time there are reasons for that. What is happening now isn't something "unnecessary" its a cause and effect thing. Just as other people should be careful with their words, Adriana herself and certain people in her life should be careful with their own actions and words too, I mean, hello the "empty causes" fiasco. That was a moment where she should have been careful as well as her boyfriend too. Every since then, thats when things got negative for her/them... I know words are truly powerful and sometimes she gets tired. But Its better for her to carry on how she used to because, this is a real world with human beings. Humans are just not perfect. Some humans just don't do the right thing. Not everyone is nice. Not everybody states the same views as her. Some people may be more raw with words than her or share a different outlook on things and they are vocal about it. Therefore, not everybody will say what she would like them to. Because this is how life is. I am not saying that its right, but she can't let it put her in a funk neither. I thought she shared that same mentality but apparently, not right now. Even if I am wrong, and she has always been this bothered by what other people say, its better she deals with people's words the way she used to. Simply because life isn't fair and humans are humans. Not everybody will say what you want. Not everybody knows what she wants them to say or how she wants them to say it. Some people have good intentions but it doesn't translate well to everybody... She is literally an example of that, her empty causes post violates what she is saying in this post. Her words and her actions following had an affect and not all of it was good. VS was thrown in the mix, it was so bad she had to release a statement. And it happened because she wasn't careful herself with her words and thats what started this mess. Cause and effect. All this shit with metin, comes from his own actions. Cause and effect. Sometimes its not just everybody else and what they say and do. Don't just point the finger only on everybody else. Remember your own role and the people in your lives' role.

Stunning.

Posting this here because I have always this photo from this shot for a GQ magazine cover, but I never saw VS' version of it, that GQ received it from. Back in the good "what is sexy??" days

Not sure if it was her actual quote though

+1 There wasn't even one negative comment on dailymail for these photos, which is rare for that site. She looks great and happy. Strikingly radiant

No I am sure its a genuine mistake, I think I have seen her spell it like that before actually. Update, the actual photographer of the photo has caught on to the post, and as I predicted, he wants to give Metin "The talk" about posting that photo without credit. And it seems that some turkish person tried to say that the photographer was lying about owning the photo, another persons This a damn shame how this had to happen. Ofcourse only right after I post this the photographer comment to metin here, thats when he gives credit. But the dude photo is reposted everywhere now without credit and metin has the nerve to delete thommy's comment. Someone asked thommy if he was the one who deleted his own comment, he said no and if its not there, he didn't remove it..So metin did it. He honestly has some nerve to delete his comment like that. That's not right. He doesn't know if Adriana has to work with thommy again or something, because he liked a comment saying "bf or not, give credit when credit is due". So its not like thommy assumes he is just a regular person, he knows metin knows Adriana. He shouldn't have deleted Thommy's comment especially after he caused so many reposts anyway and he dragged his feet on giving credit. This is what we be talking about, he has no consideration for anything else in Adriana's life thats not him. Not her family. Not her work. Tbh, I hope she realizes she shouldn't just be annoyed at some commenters, but also Metin himself. If he didn't post a picture like this people wouldn't assume whatever they did from that picture. Like, don't just scold the people who only react in the way Metin honestly wanted them to. I mean, obviously he can't control what exactly people say. But with the way he watches his comments, he can control which ones are left and which are not. He can also sway people to assume things. He didn't even delete the comment she responded to himself and he surely has been watching those comments and he still deletes them. He won't delete a comment that made her annoyed, but he deletes simple comments that states "Did you and Adriana break up", they weren't even mean when they asked. He deletes someone comment asking him for credit. It just wouldn't be right to only project that annoyance at the people who comment (even though we don't know what exactly they said or how but you get an idea its about who took the photo and when), but the person who allowed that space for those kind of comments. I know she said "kindly", so she tried, but it was obviously still a scold and I hope she remembers who was the one who decided to post a picture thats gonna make people assume things and didn't bother to remove those comments

yeah thats true but its not everytime. Be hopeful lol

I mean, we already knew she was looking at his profile, because of those turkish fans, they used some kind of app see what she is viewing and they posted it on IG. So thats not surprising The a1 user is speaking in 2nd person so thats what makes it a little confusing but lets be real that grammar/english.... That lets you know who it is. No offense to Adriana but we know how she types lol. At first I was put off because she sounded kinda upset. I don't know what the person said but it seems they assumed Metin took it or something like that. And I am not sure if she said what she did because she was annoyed that the person made an offensive claim about the pic and when it was taken OR if its because Maybelline photographers are getting really tight with being credited for photos. Literally they have been hunting people down (understandably) about their photos being posted, without credit. For example, the person who actually took this photo, its not Andrew, its Thommy White and Here is him asking and complaining about not receiving credit. Every user I have seen posted this same photos, before metin, had to tag him because he made sure of it when the picture first came out: Thats the actual photographer who took the photo that Metin posted, he has been private messaging people and everything for credit because they would repost his work without giving it to him. Which is something Metin just did himself. And With someone like metin posting this, this photo is all over her hashtags and blogs now and the real photographer (Thommy) is not getting the credit he has been asking just regular users for.Now way more people are reposting the photo without crediting him, so he is probably gonna be really upset now that it is literally everywhere and Metin didn't give him credit before, so all those other accounts and sites won't neither, they will metin. The a1 account herself had to state credit to maybelline Hurricane Metin strikes again messing things up because of his ill intentions. Seeing how that photographer feels, he is probably upset because his non-credited work is everywhere. Smh, What did I tell you all earlier about this damn solo photo? if Metin was just genuine like Adriana, and chose a picture of them BOTH instead, this wouldn't have happened.. things like this happen when you're shady and not genuine

She doesn't live in NY anymore. So anytime she is there its because of work. She could either be working now or/and be meeting with her agency, which is also held in NYC. She isn't just there, its work related.

For someone reason I am just still hoping she one day finally sees his BS for what they are and how literally since she has been with him things haven't been the same, and I don't mean that in the good way. I think that is the optimistic person in me, that I swore actually exist lol, coming out. Also because at the end of the day I am a fan. If I truly thought Metin was some good, I would not have an issue, the problem is, he has done too much shady stuff. He has even upset her badly before himself. And the way he chooses to handles those situations makes their relationship toxic now. I can't see him the same anymore. And its sad, we all think so low of him, but its literally because of all the things he has done. Nobody is picking on him anymore... @The iora has brought up a good point too about him doing this when there is a chance she could head his way, like last time. Anyways, because of this stuff, I just still hope she sees why she deserves better and that there is better for her out there. I think she is a good person and despite her tastes and what she decides to put up with, I still want HER to win. And she hasn't been winning since she has been with him. And its literally like everything gets to normal when he is away. And I don't want this for her. I want the BEST for her. Somebody who isn't going to use and exploit her only because it will be convenient for just them. Somebody who doesn't even need to use her because they don't care about what her life comes with, or because they have a big lifestyle of her own. Somebody who is actually in shape and that can help motivate her to stay in shape and stay healthy. Somebody who isn't always trying to manipulate a situation after they have been caught doing wrong. Someone who doesn't claim to influence her and like a comment that implied that Adriana wasn't as great before her. That moment showed what he was really about. Adriana doesn't deserve this, somebody like her can find someone who is real and truthful and not shady. Someone that will actually bring better. He isn't bringing the best out. Regardless of her bringing it on herself, I will never wish less on her, I will always want better for her when I think she needs it. And I think she does, if it takes me speaking it to exist I will try lol. So yes, lets hope Adriana realizes this is not a coincidence when Metin behaves this way on social media. Anytime she publicly removes something of him from her social media + they haven't been seen together in two weeks, he does this

Not you're fine, I wasn't upset. Sorry to hear that, hope things get better for you! Gotta love her "talking to the paprazzi" photos lol adorable.

I just think him using her has became an increased thing over time. It’s obvious when this all started. As I said, when people weren’t sure if he was still with her. And its not like he even posts pic of them together anymore, he is either sneaking pictures of her, sneaking pictures of her home tagging the “ Miami” location. Like he isn’t even fucking posting pictures of them together.... its surely him using her but trying to make it seem like it was just a thoughtful post. If that was the case he would have just did that on Valentine’s day anyway. But on V-day, its wasn’t two weeks of them being apart yet and she didn’t delete that pic And the more he acts like this, the more obvious the differnce between how him and adriana respect their relationship and eachother it becomes. To me its clear, Adriana wants more privacy out of this now. He can’t take having privacy for their relationship. Like I said, adriana never posted solo pictures of him and promoting her work while doing it. Adriana always posts them together. Adriana doesn’t sneak photos of him. Adriana doesn’t record/take photos of his home. Adriana doesn’t care if people know what their relationship status is. Adriana wouldn’t do that because she doesn’t use people and she has nothing to gain from him. This is literally like: genuine ( Adriana) vs non genuine (Metin). Using ( metin ) vs not (Adriana) . As I said the difference in how they treat their relationship these days is so obvious and I think it’s because they view this relationship in two different ways and they want different things out of it. He true colors show more and more I am surprised she is just in NY. But I knew she was in a work location and she looks happy and looks like herself. She looks good

Lol I just screenshot the caption incase he tried to change it because I mention how the caption promotes his own work

It has been like two weeks since he was last seen with her and she deleted just one photo of them. What did I tell you all he was going to do after that mark? Do something on social media to remind people of this, after a certain amount of time. Adriana hasn't posted anything on her feed at all, so he doesn't have anything to like, now he has to do this. This a stunt. Especially since more fans probably noticed her delete that picture, so yeah, this seems about right. Anyone ever notice, when he post about her, he always promotes himself when he does it too? When he'd sneak photos of Adriana in his IG stories while in Miami he also quoted himself. He always promotes himself when he posts her. Really tired of seeing her being used by him in multiple forms. He literally can't go two weeks without reminding the public of their relationship since she unfollowed him. He can't post about her without promoting his work. He can't even stay with her for a month without him taking pictures all over her house to post on his IG stories, he has been home this entire time and he hasn't posted one piece of his home yet, but he keep showing Adriana's. He keeps coming across as disingenuous and using her for attention. The fact that Adriana, the one who is already known and successful and who obviously just wants more privacy, can actually avoid doing this but now he can't go two weeks without pulling this stuff is telling, and its not good because before she famously unfollowed him, he didn't keep pulling these stunts. He hates that the public don't know about their relationship status much, even though he shouldn't even care Thats why we saw this one coming because she deleted a picture too. It was only one picture but combined with the fact that the public hasn't saw them together for more than the week + the reason why she deleted the picture , he does something like this. All I can say is, I hope Adriana just doesn’t fall for this. He isn’t showing love, he is exploiting her constantly now. He didn’t even post a picture of them together, only a picture of her while quoting his own work...exploiting her. Thats why he also kept showing her home while in miami. This is all exploitation. I hope she doesn’t fall for this, there is a reason why he keeps being like this and she isn’t, because she doesn’t exploit him

I doubt she is in turkey. Wherever she is, it’s requiring her to be very busy because of her lack of social media activity. Like she wasn’t even liking stuff. She is busy wherever she is. Hopefully she is shooting for some cover. We never have a clue when she shooting for covers

There is no telling.She could even be going to California for ABS production? However, I think she has been traveling too long to be headed there.

The ones she got in brazil do look better

I don't agree with any of your logic. I think every promo situation is different, they aren't all the same across the board. I don't think everyone gets paid every single time they receive this stuff. Those companies just want the promotion. Its an exchange, you get something nice and you don't have to pay for it at all, you don't even have to really use it, just show it to people because you appear to have a large audience. Thats how it goes sometimes. I have a family member who is manager to one of the hottest celebs in the industry right now and sometimes they get things sent to their home for them to promote, and they actually wasn't expecting it. Granted through a letter that comes with it or something, they understand its to promote. But those situations show you it isn't that pre-planned all the time. Sometimes the things just come. It doesn't always have to be discussed before. What makes the difference is a letter explaining and there was none. Agree to disagree because I don't think she should have just taken it. She could have eventually found out what the deal was, or do as best as she can to just show it because thats what the thinks thats what they want.she chose to do the latter

Do we have selective reading? Uh, we have all acknowledged that she didn't know what it was, and she didn't know who sent it. Thats why I suggested it was maybe lily or jourdan. @Corner literally said "she didn't know who sent it to her". We have all acknowledged she was confused and why before your statement. Its not like someone lied on her. She also did say she "didn't know what this is about". This isn't some one sided thing. The swimsuit was made and shipped to her, that costs money and she didn't have to pay for that. "She gave them free advertising" they sent her a free swim suit. Just because someone gives you a gift with no letter that means you don't acknowledge it at all, not even a post? I don't think Adriana would have the logic of "No letter, means no acknowledgement. I'll just take it". She isn't going to do that. She didn't @ them in the post and she always does that. if she was familiar and only confused about the letter, she would have @ them like she always does.

I think she still lacks just social media kind of training. I don't think she lacks overall PR training because in the real world, its rare Adriana does/says anything that throws people off. Thats why people usually loved her. Like how every year people try to get her to either to talk shit about Gisele or talk shit about kendall/gigi and co, and they do this during live interviews. And Adriana is always smart in how she handles those situations. Other people would be more awkward or they'd simply fall for the trap and be a little shady. Adriana is never that way even though that was people's intentions. Alot of people praise her for how she handles those things. And she is like that with alot of situations, publicly. She can do things right publicly. So it isn't an overall PR training problem in my opinion. She is good in the non-virtual world. Its how she built a great reputation But anytime social media is involved?... I think its 50/50. The first half is, Adriana does lack the training on how to operate it successfully. Whether its her not realizing she has to use both her feed and ig stories to maintain followers or just simply the way she creates posts. With these things, I do think there is a lack of training on how to do those things in a way that she won't cause herself damage. Like the empty causes post could have went better if she didn't word things the way she did, and if she also used social media to say "I wasn't talking about VS" or "I have no problem with__" or some kind of disclaimer, instead she released a PR statement that didn't get nearly as much attention, because her actual post was made on social media. People are/were looking for her to use that same platform to deny the rumors that she was talking about VS, but she didn't.So alot of people still think she quit. More people would have saw her deny those rumors on social media than a PR statement, but she didn't do it. And like you said with the swimsuit thing, that could have been carried out better. She could have contacted somebody who may know (her managers) or googled what it was and then said thank you. She never even said anything close to thank you lol. The bulk of her post was she was just confused. Instead of being like "I got this for free but I don't know what it is so..." she could have said " There was no letter attached, i'm a bit confused. But thanks or I like it" something like that. But she types "Not sure what this is about", she doesn't even say that, she types that and a sentence like that can be taken wrong when nobody hears how you say it. In these situations you can tell she does lack training on how to handle it without people raising an eyebrow at her. The other 50% I just think she overlooks how helpful and beneficial it could be to her career to operate social media consistently and better than she has lately. Especially in times like this where she isn't working, and she hasn't made many appearances. She can help make herself stay relevant and probably even have people come to her with work if she maintained a good feed and social media presence atleast. Like it will help her in the long run, especially as a model who isn't getting younger. Works not gonna come easy for her, interest will not remain if little is being done to keep it. She needs all the different ways in remaining in this industry as she can get. But its like she doesn't see social media helpful in that way (even though it is) and its not because she wasn't trained to, but its just her personal preference to have a dry social media and look like she is retired. I am sure its just her preference to be that way because she will see people begging in her comments for certain posts or to see her and they just aren't going to get it from her lol So I don't think its an over all PR issue.She is good publicly. But the industry has evolved to where there is a virtual aspect and non-virtual aspect and you must handle both. She does great in the real world. But she struggles/refuses to do as well virtually (social media/internet) and thats not good because she hasn't been doing anything in the real world. Like I said, how is her interest going to be kept?

When will DiCaprio out somebody himself? This is a little off topic, but do you know whose hands he were in as a child? Ones that showed up in the documentary "open secret". I feel like thats the real reason for his supply chain of models as well as alcoholism, if you know what I mean.

Like she literally follows majority of the models here, it was probably Lily or Jourdan who had that sent to her...

Just one Yeah that was everywhere multiple models that she follow were apart of that bathing suit line as well as some angels. I hope they don’t see that story, its not the most flattering for them because she expresses so much confusion Sometimes I feel like her current management work for free themselves lol, seriously. she isn't even growing followers anymore because she is lacking so much with her career right now and she won't even post normal stuff on her feed anymore. Like I said, even if she doesn't realize how in the long run this isn't only going to hurt only her modelling career but anything that is associated with her, including her show and its rating, you'd think her management realizes it and they do something. Now, she is very out of touch with brands that her fellow angels and models she actually follow on social media designed themselves. as far we know, she doesn't want to retire, so when will her and her management stop acting like she does? Not only isn’t she doing anything to help her career, she doesn’t know whats going on in the industry anymore. . she really needs to get it together. how can she say she still loves modelling and wants to continue to do it but carry on like this?