Souled-Out

Lol I just screenshot the caption incase he tried to change it because I mention how the caption promotes his own work

It has been like two weeks since he was last seen with her and she deleted just one photo of them. What did I tell you all he was going to do after that mark? Do something on social media to remind people of this, after a certain amount of time. Adriana hasn't posted anything on her feed at all, so he doesn't have anything to like, now he has to do this. This a stunt. Especially since more fans probably noticed her delete that picture, so yeah, this seems about right. Anyone ever notice, when he post about her, he always promotes himself when he does it too? When he'd sneak photos of Adriana in his IG stories while in Miami he also quoted himself. He always promotes himself when he posts her. Really tired of seeing her being used by him in multiple forms. He literally can't go two weeks without reminding the public of their relationship since she unfollowed him. He can't post about her without promoting his work. He can't even stay with her for a month without him taking pictures all over her house to post on his IG stories, he has been home this entire time and he hasn't posted one piece of his home yet, but he keep showing Adriana's. He keeps coming across as disingenuous and using her for attention. The fact that Adriana, the one who is already known and successful and who obviously just wants more privacy, can actually avoid doing this but now he can't go two weeks without pulling this stuff is telling, and its not good because before she famously unfollowed him, he didn't keep pulling these stunts. He hates that the public don't know about their relationship status much, even though he shouldn't even care Thats why we saw this one coming because she deleted a picture too. It was only one picture but combined with the fact that the public hasn't saw them together for more than the week + the reason why she deleted the picture , he does something like this. All I can say is, I hope Adriana just doesn’t fall for this. He isn’t showing love, he is exploiting her constantly now. He didn’t even post a picture of them together, only a picture of her while quoting his own work...exploiting her. Thats why he also kept showing her home while in miami. This is all exploitation. I hope she doesn’t fall for this, there is a reason why he keeps being like this and she isn’t, because she doesn’t exploit him

I doubt she is in turkey. Wherever she is, it’s requiring her to be very busy because of her lack of social media activity. Like she wasn’t even liking stuff. She is busy wherever she is. Hopefully she is shooting for some cover. We never have a clue when she shooting for covers

There is no telling.She could even be going to California for ABS production? However, I think she has been traveling too long to be headed there.

The ones she got in brazil do look better

I don't agree with any of your logic. I think every promo situation is different, they aren't all the same across the board. I don't think everyone gets paid every single time they receive this stuff. Those companies just want the promotion. Its an exchange, you get something nice and you don't have to pay for it at all, you don't even have to really use it, just show it to people because you appear to have a large audience. Thats how it goes sometimes. I have a family member who is manager to one of the hottest celebs in the industry right now and sometimes they get things sent to their home for them to promote, and they actually wasn't expecting it. Granted through a letter that comes with it or something, they understand its to promote. But those situations show you it isn't that pre-planned all the time. Sometimes the things just come. It doesn't always have to be discussed before. What makes the difference is a letter explaining and there was none. Agree to disagree because I don't think she should have just taken it. She could have eventually found out what the deal was, or do as best as she can to just show it because thats what the thinks thats what they want.she chose to do the latter

Do we have selective reading? Uh, we have all acknowledged that she didn't know what it was, and she didn't know who sent it. Thats why I suggested it was maybe lily or jourdan. @Corner literally said "she didn't know who sent it to her". We have all acknowledged she was confused and why before your statement. Its not like someone lied on her. She also did say she "didn't know what this is about". This isn't some one sided thing. The swimsuit was made and shipped to her, that costs money and she didn't have to pay for that. "She gave them free advertising" they sent her a free swim suit. Just because someone gives you a gift with no letter that means you don't acknowledge it at all, not even a post? I don't think Adriana would have the logic of "No letter, means no acknowledgement. I'll just take it". She isn't going to do that. She didn't @ them in the post and she always does that. if she was familiar and only confused about the letter, she would have @ them like she always does.

I think she still lacks just social media kind of training. I don't think she lacks overall PR training because in the real world, its rare Adriana does/says anything that throws people off. Thats why people usually loved her. Like how every year people try to get her to either to talk shit about Gisele or talk shit about kendall/gigi and co, and they do this during live interviews. And Adriana is always smart in how she handles those situations. Other people would be more awkward or they'd simply fall for the trap and be a little shady. Adriana is never that way even though that was people's intentions. Alot of people praise her for how she handles those things. And she is like that with alot of situations, publicly. She can do things right publicly. So it isn't an overall PR training problem in my opinion. She is good in the non-virtual world. Its how she built a great reputation But anytime social media is involved?... I think its 50/50. The first half is, Adriana does lack the training on how to operate it successfully. Whether its her not realizing she has to use both her feed and ig stories to maintain followers or just simply the way she creates posts. With these things, I do think there is a lack of training on how to do those things in a way that she won't cause herself damage. Like the empty causes post could have went better if she didn't word things the way she did, and if she also used social media to say "I wasn't talking about VS" or "I have no problem with__" or some kind of disclaimer, instead she released a PR statement that didn't get nearly as much attention, because her actual post was made on social media. People are/were looking for her to use that same platform to deny the rumors that she was talking about VS, but she didn't.So alot of people still think she quit. More people would have saw her deny those rumors on social media than a PR statement, but she didn't do it. And like you said with the swimsuit thing, that could have been carried out better. She could have contacted somebody who may know (her managers) or googled what it was and then said thank you. She never even said anything close to thank you lol. The bulk of her post was she was just confused. Instead of being like "I got this for free but I don't know what it is so..." she could have said " There was no letter attached, i'm a bit confused. But thanks or I like it" something like that. But she types "Not sure what this is about", she doesn't even say that, she types that and a sentence like that can be taken wrong when nobody hears how you say it. In these situations you can tell she does lack training on how to handle it without people raising an eyebrow at her. The other 50% I just think she overlooks how helpful and beneficial it could be to her career to operate social media consistently and better than she has lately. Especially in times like this where she isn't working, and she hasn't made many appearances. She can help make herself stay relevant and probably even have people come to her with work if she maintained a good feed and social media presence atleast. Like it will help her in the long run, especially as a model who isn't getting younger. Works not gonna come easy for her, interest will not remain if little is being done to keep it. She needs all the different ways in remaining in this industry as she can get. But its like she doesn't see social media helpful in that way (even though it is) and its not because she wasn't trained to, but its just her personal preference to have a dry social media and look like she is retired. I am sure its just her preference to be that way because she will see people begging in her comments for certain posts or to see her and they just aren't going to get it from her lol So I don't think its an over all PR issue.She is good publicly. But the industry has evolved to where there is a virtual aspect and non-virtual aspect and you must handle both. She does great in the real world. But she struggles/refuses to do as well virtually (social media/internet) and thats not good because she hasn't been doing anything in the real world. Like I said, how is her interest going to be kept?

When will DiCaprio out somebody himself? This is a little off topic, but do you know whose hands he were in as a child? Ones that showed up in the documentary "open secret". I feel like thats the real reason for his supply chain of models as well as alcoholism, if you know what I mean.

Like she literally follows majority of the models here, it was probably Lily or Jourdan who had that sent to her...

Just one Yeah that was everywhere multiple models that she follow were apart of that bathing suit line as well as some angels. I hope they don’t see that story, its not the most flattering for them because she expresses so much confusion Sometimes I feel like her current management work for free themselves lol, seriously. she isn't even growing followers anymore because she is lacking so much with her career right now and she won't even post normal stuff on her feed anymore. Like I said, even if she doesn't realize how in the long run this isn't only going to hurt only her modelling career but anything that is associated with her, including her show and its rating, you'd think her management realizes it and they do something. Now, she is very out of touch with brands that her fellow angels and models she actually follow on social media designed themselves. as far we know, she doesn't want to retire, so when will her and her management stop acting like she does? Not only isn’t she doing anything to help her career, she doesn’t know whats going on in the industry anymore. . she really needs to get it together. how can she say she still loves modelling and wants to continue to do it but carry on like this?

Thats not the only pic she left up. And she only deleted one. I noticed it yesterday but I didn't say anything because 1. Its just one picture, it was probably something she did out of impulse. 2. He reads here, and he probably wouldn't have noticed by himself. So I didn't mention it because he'd know and you know how he gets when the public catches on to these things. He is going to start harassing her again, talking to the press about her again if they notice, and being a big leech monster again, when obviously its the last thing Adriana needs right now because she has other things in her life to worry about than just him and his toxic/shady antics. I didn't mention here but he was doing some very weird things on social media the past three days that concerned her. I won't go into it just know he was doing and undoing something on her profile and did it for three days straight. It was extremely weird. But yeah, someone told me via pm that she deleted that pic, I just didn't want to say anything because if he knows, she'd have to deal with more of that^, at a time she doesn't need to deal with such things + she left other photos up.

As I said before, I tend to write like this for anything because I am naturally an insightful person. It doesn't matter what I am talking about, its gonna come out an essay and its gonna be well thought out and the thinking will be critical. Thats the person I am, and I've studied and work in a field that requires me to be that way. I literally can't even afford to be simple minded. Thats just me and I benefit from it anyway. But its nothing specific to just this situation. As I also said, Adriana said herself just last week something different about what she wanted to do with her career and where she wanted it to go. What she said doesn't match whats going on. All those other times, were before she spoke on what she wanted to do and I actually thought she felt the opposite about her career (sometimes I still do obviously). So it is something to be perplexed about it. And even if you don't think so, thats you. Whats "perplexing" is relative. I just named, as well as so many users have too, multiple models who are her age or older and still manage to keep going. Ale's social media is poor also but for different reasons , as I said, she is half retired and her followers was thought to be bought (Neither of that applies to Adriana). But Ale still did atleast two projects already. Gisele is doing well in both.Models, don't always stop like this, not ones like Adriana. And we all know, its not only Adriana's career that is looking hazy, its been other aspects of her life, that could have affected her. And thats what also set her apart from others. So the "age factor in the industry"doesn't matter, its her. This also obvious because of her social media approach/activity, which I talked about. That's also her own problem, and she is clearly running a ditch in that herself. The main factor is this wasn't something that was slowly coming. This is a halt. This is someone who goes from getting one million likes for a photo one moment, to not be able to gain followers at all because of recent poor overall career/social media/PR management the next. Thats how you know its more sudden. I see what you are saying on the acceptance part but I am just not at that point and everything thats been discussed here previously shows why. I would rather hope that she won't be like this all year, she gets back up soon somehow and that we are all wrong about her wanting to end her career like this.

Welp. She has officially stopped gaining followers. Her average gain has surpassed 0 and is in the negatives, in the 100s. Officially every aspect of her career has declined. I knew eventually there was a chance this would happen with the way she poorly runs her social media page now (barely posting on her actual feed, she left a negative quote up there for two weeks, she stopped posting for 3 weeks. and how her mangers always ignore her SM like its not apart of her job) + her lack of work and people barely seeing her and people think she has changed/gotten dark these days, I knew there was a chance this was gonna happen. But it happened quicker than I expected. Also she is no longer at 11.62, she never got beyond that anyway, and now she is at 11.61 she has always been weird on social media but it was to a certain extent, it was never like this.Thats why this is the first time she has ever lost so much and isn't even getting followers anymore. And it wasn't that she was weird about it, back then she would just take a week and a half MAX to post. However recently, she stopped for more weeks. Back then it was ok when she went that one week without activity, because she was still working and active as a model. People still saw her, so that brings in followers still. Obviously people aren't seeing her much, she really isn't active. She has had 0 new work come out. She also is just now starting to post more on her feed this week, but she isn't posting most of what she is known for on her feed. She always posted quotes I will give her that, but she actually posted the work out stuff on her feed-thats the real reason why she is known for fitness, she posted basic selfies/photos of herself too, and every now and then she'd post her work. It was a good enough variety. But lately not only has her activity been weird, but her feed. She just posts quotes and old photos of other people majority of the time now. It doesn't matter with IG stories, like I said before, so many people don't look at it/miss it. Its not helpful on its own, she has to balance both the same. The proof is in the pudding, her followers haven't gotten better despite how much she uses IG stories. It does nothing. When she posts an IG story she should look at the number of views she get, and she will see how low it is compared to her followers. Adriana already never had the most aesthetically pleasing feed. You really had to like who she was as an individual to follow her, not just because she is a beautiful model. You had to like how athletic she was. You had to like her quotes. You had to like that she was a mom and seeing her kids. You had to like/respect how ambitious and successful she was. And if you look at her feed before all of this, thats what you got from her This is why people followed her. They either followed her because she is a model or because they can tolerate how her feed was and how it showed who she was. And at the time, she was a person alot of people actually liked. As we all know, there are people who feel like she changed for the worst and her social media isn't helping that (besides the guns post and the woman quote post).. But mostly these days she isn't really doing that, its like alot of bad voodoo juju going on lol, and I am not even going to say once more where I think that comes from... This is all just so annoying for me, because I would never think that I would see a day of such regression in her career like @Corner said. Never would I think that Adriana would be declining in every. single. aspect. of her career. All at once. Thats why I can't let it go. Adriana still has so much potential to be powerful in the industry, to set more marks, and its like she just decided to let it go completely. And its not like this was happening slowly, its like a complete sudden stop. Its out of nowhere, just like that empty causes post, out of no where. and I can't help but feel extremely disappointed. I just want to continue to be both proud and a fan. Its getting hard. She has been showing her fans love by responding to them, and thats the only thing that keeps me holding on right now and knowing she is a good person. But career wise? I feel like she is selling her self short all of a sudden. I know as a fan I may sound selfish, so let me say: maybe Adriana hasn't been feeling so well lately? Maybe she is depressed or something. It can't be a break she was looking fo, she had that in December and most of January. But 1. This is a fashion/model forum, if a model's career/followers is going down, then it can be talked about (other people used to talk about metin's followers here all the time *shrug*) . 2. She's still saying that she wants to do this and won't even speak of the word retire. So I am going to talk about how perplexing it is, when she is living like a model thats pregnant (in hiding, afraid to post selfies on her feed, not working and wasn't even getting fit) or a model thats half retired like ale and gisele (who are still managing to do better these days) I know people are gonna probably come in here mad at me because I am confronting this issue and its not positive, but I feel like she is falling. And if Adriana never gets back up and she doesn't ever return to being who she was before, don't say I didn't mention it. Because she is choosing a bad time to be like this, its towards the end of her career. Its not smart to cause this upon yourself when you are at the end because this industry will not get easier as she gets older, neither does life. She isn't taking advantage that she she can still do alot. Wasted potential is sad to see

Apparently she is well enough to get out of the house soon. I'd take that as a good sign.

Adriana is the one sharing pictures of herself everyday saying that she is still sick. (not that there is anything wrong with that, I am not gonna complain about her actually posting candids, even if its only on IG stories and I might miss it lol) Anyways, Its the candids section, people are literally just adding candids that she shares. Thats what this is for. There is nothing wrong with people wishing her well and there is nothing wrong with people posting candids that she shared herself saying she is sick. Not like people are sneaking pictures of her and assuming she is still sick. People are just passing on what she put in IG stories, which needs to happen because so many people don't get to see her IG stories posts

Apparently she had re-posted a fan on the last picture she posted from the teamlimaday thing That was great and she really did read all those posts apparently and she even chose one to repost

I do know one or two people did come in here accusing her of things she didn't do and tried to draw a conclusion about her based on that. But I think majority of whats said here is based on what has happened with her already, which are facts. Not alot of people come in like that Jewel user, who thought she did something that she didn't do. Everything else said here pretty much comes from everything we have seen with our own eyes. I think we acknowledge that we could be wrong about our judgement but we also acknowledge its based on something she has done or something that happened before I guess you're also talking about someone assuming that photo from turkey was recent in the candids section. Thats fair. But I think that user felt that way because it wouldn't be the first time she made a very unexpected trip there and it was a new photo of her (When we assumed she was in Paris but she actually went to pick metin up in Turkey last time). The user did jump the gun, but it was based on what had already happened before. Not getting an attitude nor trying to attack you. You're right, people do judge without actual facts, but I don't think thats the bulk of what is going on here. I just think lately here people say somethings because of past happenings, which are facts

Nvm, she is still in bed. Geez I hope it really isn't because she didn't get vaccinated or a serious virus or something. Alot of people are sick though. I hope she pulls through soon

Yeah, I think its best that she turns off the comments on her posts rather than delete them or not post them on her feed at all. I think IG gave the option for good reason and its a good one to use if you don't want deal lol About her maybe going to Oscars events and stuff... IDK. Seriously. Because Metin doesn't let her go more than two weeks without him now, it seems like.After two weeks he starts leeching.When he is around everything just gets knocked off. You never know what happens when he is around, career wise, its usually never good for her. Also, now she is sick. Depending on how serious it maybe, it may take time before she can go to the gym again. (Unless we were right and it was just a detox thing) So that can set back things. Hopefully though, her health is ok, first and foremost. And hopefully she recovers greatly and its not serious. Back to her work and what to expect from her this year. I don't know, I just really hope soon things can somehow get back to normal. As another user said, her relationship life is very confusing right now but no doubt its impacting on her career and other areas in her life it shouldn't. I am just really really hoping she was being honest about still loving this job. If she said, she wanted to retire or is ready to, I would literally shut up about all of this shit. Its better to retire than to start declining because you're playing games towards the end of your career .... I also hope she doesn't go another year without a vogue cover. It stung last year that she didn't have one. But I understood, she was busy last year with VS and the show. She had alot of time this time around but we know how that went.. Yeah I just hope she actually does still want to do this and we actually see that she does still love modelling. Because nothing is looking up right now I hope she continues to post more on her feed because she is still very close to going back to 11.5. She is now starting to put more good things on her feed, When she posted that regular picture on her feed with the woman quote AND used Ig stories, she stopped losing so many followers, and gained. But like I said, The next day she just posted alot of the ig stories only and she lost 2,000 followers. Thats why she is still close to 11.5 It takes awhile to recover social media, it doesn't happen over night. Consistency is needed and as I said, she hasn't been doing much so in order to keep her PR going, her last tool is her social media feed. It took Candice a whole year to regain here status on it back, thats how long it can take. If Adriana continues to use her feed again, eventually she will be back on track, as well as keep the interest that she needs for her career (modelling and her show), but if she ends up stalling again everything is going to continue to go down You can see here status here, I can't bother to screen shot those red numbers anymore: https://socialblade.com/instagram/user/adrianalima I would like to see her at the VF part for the oscars again but we just don't know what will be happening these days with her

I wouldn't call people who commented on that with opposing ideals "trolls". Thats what I meant when I said, this goes beyond just nasty Ig users. This is more than that. There are people in the real world, who stand for the opposite and it is political sometimes and they are ignorant and they do talk bullshit and they were probably in her comments. Thats not them trolling, thats them being who they are and defending their messed up beliefs and probably not considering why she would say this. So, I don't blame her for turning the comments off because sometimes you just don't want to hear it or see that mess when we are talking about people's lives being saved. That kind of ignorance is infuriating, especially for someone who has kids herself who live here. It can be called sensitive, but she has the right to be, to stop comments thats not gonna take why she may feel that way into consideration. Those people are not gonna consider, she may be from brazil, but nationality wise, her children are american. They live in florida. They go to school in florida, they go to school in the US. Nobody should be able to tell her on her own profile, how to feel about it when she is a parent with kids in school. This is a serious issue and it actually is worth arguing over. Thats why the government always has. IMO its not something easily ignored. We are talking about people's lives. So, if she kept the comments on, and somebody say something, and she decided to respond, I wouldn't call her "immature" or anything for that because this isn't some regular photo. This is about a serious issue, and actually it is political. She just didn't get political herself because she didn't make a caption. But this subject is linked to politics and the law. But yeah, she probably didn't feel like arguing with people over it or didn't want to see people making ignorant statements, disregarding the fact that she is probably thinking "those could have been my kids" or the other times it happened, that it could have been her kids, and I can't blame her for any of that. Not when it comes to this. In general I never find a problem when people turn off their social media comments. Everybody takes different things, different ways. Its their account, they can filter and control what people say to them on it, it doesn't hurt her feed nor followers to turn off comments, there are no consequences from it. I think its fine to turn off comments no matter what. Its surely understandable in this case. She is using her platform to take a stance on something thats probably close to her because she has kids. And she doesn't have to deal with people who fail to realize that if she doesn't want to. Its not like she is trying to disable a comment section on a website thats not even hers but there is a page about her, then she'd have to take whatever people say. But on her own account, she doesn't have to deal. And this is about lives and gun laws, if that isn't a big deal, I don't know what is. But even if it was something less serious, it would be ok to turn off the comments. Like I said, alot of people do it all the time on regular photos/selfies. There is no harm in doing it, some days people just don't want to deal.

hm... I think thats true. But its not surprise then because early December she had to promote the show. Later December, its just the holidays, people do what they want lol. I think thats probably why during the maybelline stuff you can tell just a little that she gained weight but she still looked like herself. In my opinion it was the month of January that really did it and at that point it became a surprise. Just a little surprise because look who she was around lol. I hate that she had to turn her comments off because the last mass school shooting happened in the same state that she lives in. EVERYBODY should be saying this but she most certainly have the right too. I hope she doesn't take those comments personal and stuff, its not her,its not even the fact that people on IG are stupid. No, its the people who are for guns and they are all literally fucking idiots and they are disgraceful people. They are the problem, not people like her,not even social media. The US should be ashamed at this point, we have been talking about for too long. Its good she turned off the comments rather than deleting the post or arguing with anybody.

I don't know....She was terribly unprepared for the brazil event so who knows. However, she was covered up alot and stuff (like when she was in rio in the midst of Zika). I hope that isn't the case neither. I hope its just her body reacting to her detoxing and getting back into fitness after a month of eating bad and not really working out like her body is actually used to. So lets hope its just that. We will know soon enough depending on how long she feels this way.

She did come from traveling, so that could have been it somehow, even though its stomach related. So you can't really get a stomach flu from traveling. Maybe something she ate at the restaurant... even though she got sick 24 hours after.. So you are probably right its the detox reaction, and hopefully it is just that. I can see it because even though before brazil she had some green juices sometimes, obviously she was still eating poorly after that and was not really going to the gym. So the things she was still consuming + lack of activity, negates the point of that juice at the time, obviously because she still gained weight. As we noticed, this is the most she gained weight and its the most she never worked out since she first started in like 2008 (besides being pregnant ofcourse but thats different, she didn't have to detox after). Her body definitely was not used to both how she was eating and her lack of activity and is probably reacting to her truly trying to get the weight out, which means its also detoxing all the trash she was eating that was sitting there for 1-2 months. Plus, on one of her chef's ig stories there were ALOT more than just one bottle green juice, it was alot so yeah, the detoxing was bound to work more this time around. I am not against it though, Its good for her. Just saying her body probably wasn't used to the lifestyle/diet she was giving it and now she is getting back on board with her fitness and its reacting. I hope she does get better! ugh 2018 hasn't gotten better yet around here