frenchkiki

^^I think those people mostly vomit their hate because they have nothing else to do and they know the only chance they will ever be next to kate or any other models, will be in their bathroom with SI in one hand and their tiny "brain" in the other. They are so used to watch women made with plastic all over the web & magazines that they can't handle a woman with flesh and natural boobs. Kate's boobs saggy? Seriously?

What she said^^Really I love that girl!!

Sweeeeeet! She certainly going to funerals dressed like that... The funeral of the animals on her shoulders! <_<

Wild flower I agree with certain thing u said and yes VS needs to use more models with curves that's for sure. But Behati is not looking like a boy. Her body is the one of a woman. Not your taste and I perfectly understand that but she is not looking like a boy.

:chicken: made in press via tfs by visualoptimism I don't need to scan it!! :dance: Ffffffew!

Oh and thank you Prettyphile for starting this great conversation... And she opened the Pandora's box and... Run away!

Frenchkiki with testicles answer: Because men are so less tricky in their mind (and this is the reason why I love to work with men). They see something they like and they just like and enjoy. We women, we think "oh she is sexy and beautiful ... yes but! She is too thin and yeah, photoshop! and she has zero butt (ah ah!) and oh she gained weight! Oh look now. She is damn skinny! Pffeew she should wear a bra, no? Not even her real hair color..." tricky we are! I did not do that, did I? I am not in the majority Yes but it doesn't mean it is right? We (men & women) do not have to go to the gym because the magazines/tv are telling us to do it? And I think a model promoting lingerie should be more in the "soft" side than the "muscles" side. 6 packs Abdominals aren't sexy for me. It's not feminine. A "soft" body is the perception of what I think is feminine & when I look the VS models (the Angels) I only see muscles and for some bones & muscles and I am absolutely not attracted by their body. That's exactly what I said^^ More diversity. Fashion should represent every women (modellike of course) and not only one type of girl. And i really think none of these girl we talked about are looking like 10 year olds? If 10 years old girls were looking like Miranda or Behati they will be in troubles in this crazycrazy world.

the commercial can be seen on tv in France. And Magazines too.

NONONONON!!!NOWHY?NONO! THAT KID IS A MORON!!!! :avada: Why?????

I have never talked about average women? I am talking about using more models (not average girls find in the street) with different body sizes when it comes to lingerie ... And yes, I think a lot of famous man model or singers are average, as well as famous female model/singers but that's not the point of the discussion I guess? I don't give a damn about the male models/actors/singers of today Give me Gable, Eastwood, Newman, Brando, Mel Gibson and *insert a long long list of names here* and I will be very interested, but this is the General babe discussion thread, no? Anyway, yes men are also stereotyped too and even if they are supposed to sell "a fantasy" I think only girls under 16 must actually believe in this fantasy... But we are talking about VS and their vision of what a model is suppose to look like to work for them? And I think they should open up a little bit to what their clients - and for that matters, me and few models fans here on Bz- would like to see? And... Damn! It's not like i have insulted your maman or sumthin?

I think Monsieur Le Baron needs a hug... Men's magazines: 100 % stereotyped women. Vs Angels: stereotyped for about 90% of them Vs sell the lingerie for women yes BUT their targets when it comes to the all sexyglamourhotbombshell thing are men. "Buy this lingerie to your lady and she will look as hot as our models". By experience I know a men will be more inclined to buy lingerie he already seen on a model (TV, magazines) because this will give him an idea of what the lingerie will look like on his woman/GF/biatch/whatever. Not every men of course but a good majority. As a woman (and almost all the women I know) I want to see different kind of model to wear lingerie. Not always the same chick with the same thin body. VS used a lot of different body type back then (in the 20th Century ) And they should come back to more varieties and hire models with more curves and find a good balance between A cup and D cup. Because right now for VS the alphabet as only 2 letters: A & B.

breath deeply and think... about your mom!

Seriously? SEriously? I prefer mine damn it!! :persuazn: It looks so much better & Its not even famous

I will. If it's not done till the end of the week PM me to remind my brain to do it.

yape! ^so yeah, no more burgers!

^^ True! but... this is 3 years old and I know there is the editing and such but she has a waist so... What the hell happened to her waist?? she has barely none today and this make her look "thicker" than she really is. and I want to post these Because she looks amazing and almost too good for VS When I look the first picture I see the American girl next door (hair smile body cuteness ) and a girl like her should be represented in the VS catalogs... Not in :baronlamesign: burger commercials! She has a great potential and if VS can't see it it's their loss.

Laetitia Casta cut her hair very short when she was an Angel. But as I said previously, I think it's a wig. Certainly a fitting for the up coming fashion show.

twitter.com/angelcandice If someone do this to my hair, I cry yes, i am very shallow! I am pretty sure it's a wig... but I think she looks gorgeous with short hair. No more bombshell thankyoucheesus.

Guys I know many of you with a great interest for the mysteries of science wondered many times how this Normal lips....................Mysterious lips can be possible? Well... South Africa 1992, young candy and a window. Stoopid accident really

100% agree with you Prettyphile^^ I really don't give a damn about VS models anymore (Grand'mama Kiki says: It was way better back in the 90's!) but women with tits & ass to sell Lingerie is at least the minimum require. A woman with curves is not especially more feminine than another one with less curves but VS is trying to make us believe (especially to young girls) that their "Angels" are real sexy women with curves when they are not. They are all underweight and they don't represent the American woman or any other women in the world. Of course fashion models will always be some kind of fantasies but when Tyra and Daniela and Heidi and Laetitia were on the cover of VS catalogs, the fantasies seemed close to the reality. And some people might think Kate is just a "men's magazine" model (Yeah maybe, so what?) but Tyra graced the cover of "GQ & "Esquire & "Maxime" more than Vogue covers but she was a VS Angel and a good model. Kate needs to improve as a fashion model but when I see her last shoot for "Muse" I think she could be real great for VS... And could be a good editorial model too.

If u look carefully at the end when she falls u can see she is losing her shoe. Certainly too big for her? I did not watch the whole video so I don't know if she falls before the ending? She is gorgeous by the way and she is French right? (if she is from La Reunion French she is!)

nicki minaj what the hell is that thing? she is not hot and she cant sing or rap or whatever she is trying to do! "ass ass ass ass lick my anus, ass ass"! America's role model?^^ I am not a mega fan of Madonna but at least she was a powerful woman with a message. Now it's just trash O with an ass ass ass ass!

Thank you

So glamorous at the Oscar party so trashy on this burger commercial <_< It's not even sexy a bit. She should stay away from that kind of $h!t work and leave that to Paris Hilton or Kim Kardashian.

She is NOT a real pinkhead? so disappointed