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Behati Ieva Erin Lais (sorry I never got beyond the boobs, they're in your face, going to poke an eye out and beat you black and blue out there) I know this is about the outfit, but I don't see it I can't get beyond those bad boys.

That's a bit harsh don't you think? I agree that artists probably brought in the ratings but no matter what there is a small percentage of us who watch it for the models and know who they are. Is it so wrong to want to believe that the show did well because people want to see them? Of course I know that's not the case. And the artists and fame side of it is what brought in the ratings. But still either way it's a major plus for the company. Always after the show the sales probably boost cause all of these women and men (who go and buy for their wives) will go out and look for what VS is offering. As long as VS make money on it, it's a success. So what I was trying to say is the feel of the show will be the same. Last year and this year both had the same format. The show did well so VS will keep it the same next year. Harsh in what light? Calling the girls not sexy, or mocking the company? And the percentage that watch the show for the models is incredibly small. Most people don't know who these girls are, and just because VS introduces a few of them at the beginning doesn't mean they recognize them afterwards. They want to see quote on quote attractive woman strut in skimpy clothing and see big artists prance around in glitter while singing. As for their sales boosting because someone sees something on the runway they want their girlfriend or wife to wear, or they think their boyfriend husband will like. I want you to realistically look at this year and the past few years and tell me what is translatable from the runway to the VS store? This is the first year that they've offered runway looks for sale on their site. Beyond that it's very hard to see what they're wearing and what they're selling. I have never read that their sales boost after the show, not in regards to the show and not beyond that which is the expected boost in sales due to the holiday season. Sales this year will be boosted regardless simply because shoppers across North America are buying more, statistics have already shown that there are nearly 3 times the amount of people buying/spending this year then there were last year. So obviously VS's numbers should reflect that, and would regardless if they had the show or not. The point is you say this as gospel, and you have cited that you have inside sources who tell you she's resigned every time. Honestly I don't give a shit, she's with the company, until she leaves she's signed. And in comparing her to Heidi I feel 100% justified. They are/were both in their thirties, they were both the quote on quote head angels. Heidi was known as the body and for popping out 3 children I don't think she had a horrible one. We should probably take into consideration that she popped out a baby like a month before the one show, and her body wasn't horrific in most of the others. Heidi was more famous, more commonly known with the masses then Adriana is. Hell she still is, that's not me being rude or biased, that's me being realistic. I don't like either model, I find both of them incredibly obnoxious and I'm not a fan of either girl's body of work, (aside from Heidi's Halloween costumes). Moving on to the artists. There were advertisements at the end of September for Kanye and Maroon 5, so yes, people knew who the musical talent was, and I guarantee you a lot of people tuned in for them and not just for the show. The only quote on quote surprise artist was Nikki Minaj and after she was confirmed twitter and everything else blew up. So chances are another large group of people who might otherwise have not watched the show decided to turn on the channel. We need to sit back and realize however much we might love these models. I have my favorites just like everyone else, (and yes I'd like to say people thought they were the prettiest or had the best reviews) chances are they are not as popular as we all want to believe they are. Bottom line is a glorified panty pusher will never be as famous as a multi platinum singer/rapper. This isn't the 90's anymore.

On that note there have been a few rookies who got the cover. It could swing either way.

not anywhere near....shes got 2 more years left on her current contract and she is planning on resigning Didn't you say like a month or so ago that she had just resigned for 5 years? I'm not trying to be rude, but goddamn the amount this girl resigns she's gotta be contracted to Victoria's Secret well into her eighties. Heidi was old.. Adriana is gonna be ancient. Heidi wasn't sexy, I would hope that Adriana retires while she still retains some attractiveness. Just saying. Lmao yes it does, if VS fools themselves into believing that their tacky outfits and over the top models are bringing in the viewers then they not only have horrible taste but they were obviously dropped on their heads as babies and/or need whomever is beating them with the stupid stick to stop. Talent and fame trumps cheap, fake trumped up "sexiness". So whomever wants to kid themselves into believing that any of these models have even an ounce of the same prestige as the artists that performed their year they need to get they head checked.

I hope not, if only on the premise that her thread may start to be populated by remotely sane people if she doesn't get the big hype of SI again...

And yet in the angel profiles only Adriana, Candice, Erin, and Behati were credited... Karlie also said she was officially an angel, so who's to say. I can only said god I hope not. Both her and Anja were painfully thin this year walking. You should never be able to see the tiny bones going into the clavicle and sternum. Not to mention her little shimmy was rather frightening. I may have missed a few things earlier in the show though, the editing was pretty bad at first though it seemed to get better for the last 3 segments. Maybe because I started paying attention, maybe not

Round 20: Sui Lily Round 21: Bregje Doutzen Round 22: Lily Miranda

Round 15: 1. Sui 2. Lais 3. Miranda Round 16: 1. Alessandra 2. Bregje 3. Lais

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1. Bregje 2. Miranda 3. Anja 4. Candice

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Agreed! And not a Candice in sight!!!!

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Doutzen x2 Candice x1 (it seems to fit a bit better, but I'm still stuck on the yellow underwear/underskirt and the red heels with what is ultimately a baby purple outfit)

You might as well close it hun, it's been 24 hours and even if you were to get the minimum amount of voters it wouldn't change the outcome, Lais would win.

I don't think it's Chanel that's gotta worry...

Lais x3 I actually like Lais's outfit aside from the neck ruffle. I'm not certain about Anja's, it's just a hot mess

Toni x3

Ale's outfit reminds me of a doily that you would see on the table at grandma's house with a framed picture of a cat on top of it staring at you with those eyes... while playing with a ball of yarn Lily x3

1. Kate Upton 2. Shanina Shaik 3. Michea Crawford 4. Josie Maran 5. Anna Christine Spekhart 6. Amber Heard 7. Freja Beha Erichsen 8. Minka Kelly 9. Odette Yustman 10. Elsa Hosk 11. Kim Cloutier 12. Alyssa Miller 13. Alessandra Ambrosio 14. Bianca Balti 15. Simone Villas Boas 16. Joan Smalls 17. Olivia Wilde 18. Genevieve Morton 19. Catalina Otalvaro 20. Mona Johannesson

Doutzen x3

Atrocious vs Disaster 1.5 each

It's not that she doesn't work, it's that it comes in such sporadic spurts that it's difficult to constantly check back on this thread. Whatever works I guess.