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Thanks Chocolate . And thanks to everyone in their own way ... Young pictures of her are much harder to find because she became more well known older and for her current fitness show . She was 4th place for Miss Venezuela in 1986, but couldn't find pics of that ...I only found 2 pics in her 20s.... No flesh here though . I just found I still had a copy of the blocked pics on my hard drive. Since everything else is still the same, if someone wants to, they can just judge by the breasts from the young pic ? Since she's the only one here being judged by 30s-40s pics anyway . But since another is up now, only optional of course . Natural Breasts Blocked Pics Off to hit the books, sorry if anyone was troubled or inconvenienced in any way .

WTH? Well, what are the chances...do all that work (that backfires) to prove one is natural and here we are ...I predetermined when I started this thing not to nominate any with them because they aren't technically judged by their body in a way, much like the baby faces which makes the raking an asterisk in a way. Only I'm not particularly astute at pointing them out . Even though there are some fashion models I think have them too only they are less noticeable because they are small... And WTH? The bandwidth is exceeded anyway and that link was all I had....I not only don't have time to re-find and re-block those pics, just can't affort to give up a round on the age issue and the implant issue as I'll only be here a couple more days. So maybe its better to just move on... Catherine, no matter what they say, you're still one of my fav fitness instructors , I'll never forget what I learned . Looking at the before pics I just found, you didn't need em' anyway (though no one needs them IMO). I also didn't know she was 5'9 . But lookin great at 44 (Y) . And that leg/booty combo is better than any fashion model under 30 IMO . 8 votes needed for Luisana... (Selita Ebanks, Nominated by Theron)

Paris 2.0 . Bar Rafaeli - 9.4 Luisana Lopilito - 9.6 - not a fan though ... Catherine Fullop - 9.8-10 - My favorite female fitness instructor . Tied for favorite leg/booty combo of the comp so far . And just now noticed I could only find 30s-40s pics, how ironic .

Rankings minus those needing 25 votes Here (Catherine Fullop, Nominated by Me)

Well , I try to be fair and couldn't decide . But yeah, you should do that . 1.5 each . But I'm saying this time because that bubble rap that Lyndsey is wearing makes it harder to tell the difference .

Yeah...though ironically the Swedish thing was my moving on . And because the intentions are good, I feel bad for saying earnest and eloquent as it may be, none of that anything to do with what I was talking about . But, thanks anyway .

One thing about Argentina as a side note is butt implants seem very popular there, not saying this girl has them or not. But as to Luisana, I wouldn't put her in a fashion model contest because to me, she's an actress/singer who has done some occassional modeling. And...Not knocking your tastes, but ironically, I always though the beauty/hotness of Swedish women as a whole were kindof overrated (don't hate me guys ). But admittedly that feeling is somewhat enhanced by my annoying Swedish friend who's always talking about how they're the best this and that ect.

These are all great points as well as valid concerns . Part 1: Intangible Qualities Bear in mind, I'm not judgeing the people who speak out about intanbigle factors. For example, if 3 speak out, 70% may be thinking the same thing whether the score is low, middle or somewhat high. My point about intangibles is, for example: Salma Hayek is sexy, extremely sexy. She walks sexy, talks sexy, probably even belches sexy. But I myself just can't particularly understand deducting points from someone (not referring to anyone in particular...) with the same body and no sensuality. But maybe I'm just not meant to undesrstand everything ? I do however understand APPRECIATING the sexy or sexy and more mature one more, even though my score would be the same. But again, I may be the minority on this. Its the same thing as I APPRECIATE looks more of someone who's nice over someone with the same body who is either a b@#$# or annoying and I know probably 90% would probably evaluate them differently. I can't say its a crime even though I can't relate . My only concern in light of a competition is that it seems if the person isn't judged on their body, then it would be better to just move on to the next round/person rather than waste that spot. Part 2: Range of Pics a Bad Idea, But Seemed Like a Good Idea at the Time Because... But anyway, I saw her on Answers.com and it asked whether her breasts were real. Whoever answered said yes, but I assumed it was a commonly asked question as a result and I know some (at least subconsciously) take off for that (which is whay I didn't nominate Erica Durance and Carmen Electra ect.) and those are some of Choco's fav pics of her (at the top) so I figured to just leave them there so if anyone wonders maybe they can judge based on that. Part 3: The Age/Look Thing As a side note, it also just so happens even though I think she has a great body, I don't really like her (not that I dislike her). As to the kids exposed like that, you and I are both American (and I'm African American), but I do have some hispanic relatives and a lot of what some teens wear in some Hispanic countries is definitely considered inappropriate over here. In some cases due to the heat. In Cuba for example, even little girls wear shirts with their whole stomach showing which is even outlawed in some high schools here, but its not considered in a sexual way there. That combined with a more sexually expressive culture in general (in some countries). I was raised American however and though not knocking them, I don't particularly agree with the trend for celebs/entertainers...IMO, even American pop stars, even though they are older than me now, start a little young for my taste (take the 17-year old Britney in the "Hit me Baby" video) or even Rihanna bellydancing in a video at 15.....and even Miranda in lingerie I always felt was somewhat odd, so I relate to that half of course...

Hello . We understand you well , welcome .

She doesn't look 15, she is 15 in some pics. We made the pics range from the width of her career (15-22) because some asked whether her body was natural or not. In the most recent pic (at the bottom of the blocked pics) is the average 22 year old face . But even if she were 30 and looked 11, I could see if it were "Battle of the Sensuality" but don't see what that has to do with the quality of someone's bod .

Luisana - 9.6-10

Not the eyes, oh . But I do appreciate your posts in general and you're one of my favorite contributors . dawson: She's okay I guess. Here's 8 pics dawson: She's awesome. Here's 8 pics (catchup vote list coming...) (Luisana Lopilato, Nominated by Chocolate and Me) (Blocked by Chocolate)

Can we limit the extra pics to like 10 ? So everyone can have the same range of pics . Does she say "you are out" when she wins ? I thought you were supposed to bring balance to the world ?

A1 Salma Hayek ( ) A2 Jennifer Love Hewitt - because she needs me more, but ( ) B1 Mila Kunis B2 Michelle Pfeiffer C1 Eva Mendes C2 Kate Winslet D1 Diane Kruger D2 Catherine Zeta-Jones (talent breaks tie) E1 Kate Beckinsale E2 Olivia Wilde (euw, Rebecca Remain <_< (sorry guys ) F1 Monica Bellucci F2 Halle Berry G1 Jessica Alba G2 Scarlett Johansson H1 Anne Hathaway ( ) I love Josie over 10X more but I've never seen her act . I'd even vote for her if I saw her in something and she sucked...what are you doing to me ????!!!!! H2 Ashley Judd

GROUP STAGE, DAY 2 OF 3, GROUPS A-D: A3 Natalie Portman ( :cry: ) A4 Salma Hayek - not any worse looking and way more talent, but ( ) - Are you doing this on purpose ? B3 Angelina Jolie B4 Michelle Pfeiffer C3 Eva Mendes C4 *flips coin* Rachel Bilson D3 Olga Kurylenko D4 Catherine Zeta-Jones

Oh, I must have got it mixed up with Tiger Wood's alleged mistrisses' lawyer Gloria Alred and meant to say Lily Aldridge. Sorry .

Title Changed .

I didn't see your pics . (Y) I agree.... Yeah, I know what you mean, and about that pic. I actually don't collect or have any of her pics saved now that I think about it . But here's something...

This is Lily Alred .

Oh, yeah I started her thread :morning: .

I don't know, but the girl on the right (Esti Ginzborg) is very popular here, so I put (girl with Esti Ginzborg) in the title, which will make more people look at this thread .

They photoshopped her gap out :shock: :shock: :shock: ... That kindof scares me in a way .

Those are even better, nice .

I started to make her a thread once, but all I could find were candid/red carpet type pics . So thanks guys .

Thanks !