February 8, 20223 yr https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/gtas-remaster-trilogy-has-significantly-exceeded-expectations-with-up-to-10m-sales/ People stop buying/pre-ordering unfinished games. After a few months, GTA SA is still a hot mess with no patches in sight.
February 8, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, Cult Icon said: The film is definitely too politically incorrect to be made now, as it is very biased towards the American point of view, and liberals would say that it looks like a film of white warriors vs black savages lol. The problem isn't really the "black vs. white" dynamic, but the fact that they are glossing over the fact that it wasn't just the local militias vs. U.S. troops, a lot of regular civilians also died during those days. Something that is almost entirely ignored within the narrative. That is a rather conscious on the part of the filmmakers.
February 8, 20223 yr 13 minutes ago, SympathysSilhouette said: The problem isn't really the "black vs. white" dynamic, but the fact that they are glossing over the fact that it wasn't just the local militias vs. U.S. troops, a lot of regular civilians also died during those days. Something that is almost entirely ignored within the narrative. That is a rather conscious on the part of the filmmakers. I think it is actually, do you remember the controversy behind Resident Evil 5? Some liberal reviewers called it racist. The game also seems to be influenced by Black Hawk Down too. The blacks in the film are depicted as primitive/gangster/savage like, especially with the swarms of milita mixed with civilians (there is even a scene where a civilian woman picks up an AK, and is immediately gunned down). The film also identifies the deaths of innocent civilians too, although very slightly. It is probably on youtube if you look for it. Ultimately, the film is really about American fighting men, not about portraying the Somali civilians as innocent victims like a liberal film would do. + Also, American firepower tends to kill a lot of civilians, it's a basic aspect of American (and modern) war making that is well known. More often than not, the firepower kills more civilians than enemies.
February 8, 20223 yr My dad was in Somalia in the 1970s-1980s and spent several years there, including in Mogadishu. He worked in a teaching/medical faculty though as a civilian. Somalia cost him his liver, as he contracted Hepatitus B there. The funny thing is that he is pretty racist against blacks as a consequence. He admires the "native intelligence" of the Somalis and how they learn quickly but he has a low opinion of poor American blacks, particularly those in the urban shitholes in the states and run-down towns. He considers them more primitive and animal-like (in an incremental sense). In particuar he dislikes the roving groups ofwild young black men, finding them possibly criminals.
February 8, 20223 yr Author 12 hours ago, SympathysSilhouette said: Black Hawk Down is a fantasy, pro-military propaganda selling the myth of the "warrior brethren" to paint over the carnage which actually occurred in those days. A lot of regular Somali civilians were killed, something that is largely missing from the hurrah narrative. Not at all. It's not a fantasy. It's based on a journalist book. It's promilitary, yes, but the US army and the UN were needed back then. You forget that the US army and the UN were here to ensure that food was distributed to the local population. Somalia was starving due to a growing famine and international food donations were stolen by Somalian warlords. The pictures of starving children were heartbreaking. I was a very little kid, but I still remember this. At our school, we fasted for a couple of lunches to save rice for the Somalis. IIRC, the movie depicts the civilian losses (which you can also attribute to Aidid - who is not exactly a saint!!), but it's not the subject of the movie. It's a movie about brotherhood and solidarity. I know it's hard to understand these value with your 2022 glasses (because civil wars seem to be boiling everywhere), but these are humanist values, that everybody needs.
February 8, 20223 yr Author While it's true that US army has made several bad operations (the worst being Iraq in 2003), the Somalia operation was justified based on what they knew back then. The world is not black and white, with the bad guys always being those with the skin colour you don't like (it was the black 50 years ago and now it's the whites). BTW, you might want to look at the history of African ethnicities/tribes. You will find a lot of racism in Africa. Much more than you think. Racism is not white people's monopoly. Far from it.
February 8, 20223 yr Author 9 hours ago, Cult Icon said: A lot of big budget 1990s films were patriotic, however in the modern post-Iraq/Afgan environment/great recession/covid/Trump/political media ...patriotism has taken a big beatening. Black Hawk Down is an awesome movie, hugely rewatchable and something similar will probably not be made again for a long time. I think the US military did provide equipment and direction for the scenes, which made them pretty outstanding & nothing has matched them in quality over the past 20 years. I don't recall that BHD is openly patriotic, but it is definitely a movie that could spark feelings of patriotism and admiration. The film focuses on comradeship and also American military skill/high tech in the face of crisis. I do agree thought that it has a proproganda aspect to it. As a result of the feelings invoked by the film and other media, I can see teenagers of a certain bent joining the military and so forth. BHD is also hugely influential in gaming, besides its influence on subsequent TV/films. I think the Call of Duty : Modern Warfare franchise is deliberately influenced by it, especially COD: 4. There were others too. I think the Halo franchise deliberately shows the humans to be American soldiers specifically rather than say some sci-fi faction. The US govt/US Army actually develops shooters, this can obviously be perceived as proproganda. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America's_Army I also think that BHD is an awesome movie. Sure, there's a form of promilitary discourse in the movie. But we're not talking about Iraq (where the American screwed everything from A to Z). In Somalia, things were very complex and though all this operation turned out to be a stain on Clinton's work, I wouldn't judge the US very harshly for that period. I do understand why the US (and the UN) were here. Help was needed in Somalia. Children were really starving (a real famine). When this movie was released, most young men in France loved the US. It was the country that made all the movies we liked (Star Wars, Predator, Terminator, basically all the good sci-fi and action movies). Brotherhood, action, huge stakes: that's what most young men need. It's like a fundamental need (like eating, drinking and having sex). It brings a feeling of transcendence, that is fundamental need for your brain (just like women need to see solidarity, maternity and love - BtW, that's not a stereotype, this field has been studied by many psychologists). Today's crisis for Western men (and women) is mostly due to the lack of transcendence. Anyway, the French started to really have anti-American feelings after 2003 and Iraq (the most stupid war by your most stupid president). Then it calmed down, but now, with the Woke, I see many French getting repulsed again by American culture (left and right alike - we're not as politically torn as in the US).
February 8, 20223 yr Author 9 hours ago, Cult Icon said: however in the modern post-Iraq/Afgan environment/great recession/covid/Trump/political media ...patriotism has taken a big beatening. I agree, all of these events hit patriotism hard. It also hit "Western culture" which is now getting more hate from Westerners than outside the West. Brotherhood/solidarity/patriotism (these are similar notions) are fundamental needs for human beings (specifically men, because they usually lack these feelings that are scarcely provided to them). If these needs are denied to them, they will either psychologically starve and find something else (hopefully a non-destructive substitute, but it's not always the case). The entertainment industries (gaming, movies, TV) could provide these substitutes. But if they don't (and focus instead on Woke dope), then young'uns will starve or get bad substitutes.
February 8, 20223 yr Author I feel bad for young men and women in the West today. They live in a harsh environment, not physically threatening (they are probably one of the safest generations against physical hazards), but psychologically challenging. They live in an era where the media tells them that they are inherently bad because of their gender, their race, their orientation, etc. The media is massively using fear, deception and charlatan/fake knowledge (CRT, gender theories, etc.) to generate hate clicks or abiding clicks. Division is the new business model. Young'uns can't get enough of their basic psychological needs (and with the politicization of the entertainment industry, catharsis is harder to find). They'll either go through a lot of suffering or they'll create a very harsh backlash (a counter-revolution possibly).
February 9, 20223 yr Author On 2/7/2022 at 2:07 AM, Cult Icon said: cool trailer: I like the gameplay I've seen! Maybe, we'll have a good martial arts game, this time.
February 9, 20223 yr 7 hours ago, Enrico_sw said: IIRC, the movie depicts the civilian losses (which you can also attribute to Aidid - who is not exactly a saint!!), but it's not the subject of the movie. It's a movie about brotherhood and solidarity. I know it's hard to understand these value with your 2022 glasses (because civil wars seem to be boiling everywhere), but these are humanist values, that everybody needs. This has little to do with "2022 glasses". I saw the movie in theaters upon its release and this was my opinion back in 2001 too.
February 9, 20223 yr Author 5 hours ago, SympathysSilhouette said: This has little to do with "2022 glasses". I saw the movie in theaters upon its release and this was my opinion back in 2001 too. Then you were wrong in 2001. The US military have made many mistakes (Iraq 2003 being the worst), but Somalia was not as "black and white" as you think. The fact that these boys were Western men doesn't make them automatically guilty of everything...
February 9, 20223 yr 11 minutes ago, Enrico_sw said: Then you were wrong in 2001. The US military have made many mistakes (Iraq 2003 being the worst), but Somalia was not as "black and white" as you think. The fact that these boys were Western men doesn't make them automatically guilty of everything... LOL. What does any of this have to do with them being "western men". My objection to the film is that it more or less pretends like the battle didn't cost the lives of countless regular civilians. You seem to find factual representation important, so why not in a war movie too?
February 9, 20223 yr oh wow I couldn't have commented more soon: https://www.polygon.com/22924209/americas-army-proving-grounds-shutdown-servers-sunset-pc-ps4 America’s Army going dark after 20 years Oft-criticized recruiting tool declared ‘mission success, time to withdraw’
February 9, 20223 yr 19 hours ago, Enrico_sw said: I like the gameplay I've seen! Maybe, we'll have a good martial arts game, this time. This guy beat the game in 35 minutes LOL. It looks like a pretty good fighting game.
February 9, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, Cult Icon said: This guy beat the game in 35 minutes LOL. It looks like a pretty good fighting game. I read about this. Don't they say that most people need like ten hours for their first playthrough?
February 9, 20223 yr Author 9 hours ago, SympathysSilhouette said: My objection to the film is that it more or less pretends like the battle didn't cost the lives of countless regular civilians. You seem to find factual representation important, so why not in a war movie too? There are civilian losses in the movie, but it's not the main topic of the movie. BTW, if you really want an accurate representation, you also have to add scenes of warlords taking food from starving population (BTW, maybe they show it, I've last seen it long ago). You'd also need to show clan wars with very violent skirmishes. Tribalism is an essential part that needed to be shown, with scenes of harsh hate between tribes. Why didn't you note the absence of these scenes too? Somalia was (still is) in chaos and the US were mostly trying to help. It's not the US army that was in Iraq. Far from it. 9 hours ago, SympathysSilhouette said: LOL. What does any of this have to do with them being "western men". You're a CRT and gender theory follower, right? You know that the leaders of these cults demand you judge western men harshly (and even harsher if they are cisgender heterosexual white slim country men and other nonsensical criteria they invent every day to tear people apart with hateful rhetoric)
February 9, 20223 yr Author 37 minutes ago, SympathysSilhouette said: I read about this. Don't they say that most people need like ten hours for their first playthrough? It's probably a speed run. I like to watch these. There are lots of speed run on DS3. They are impressive!
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