27 minutes ago, Westside said:

Joan is back to her unhingedness 🙃🫠

What is she saying now?

5 minutes ago, Paul Fernandes said:

What is she saying now?

To be honest and provide some context as someone who's been following Joan on Instagram for years, Joan has always been like this. Even when she was Candice's “wifey” and everything was going great between them, she was always dropping hints, I don't know who they were aimed at, but it's something that's always been a constant with her.

Honestly, I don’t care all that much about the friendship between Candice and Joan, but I find it sad that she’s become estranged from Doutzen. I’ve always felt that the friendship between this pair was much more genuine—though I do wonder just how messed up things must have gotten for Doutzen to distance herself from Candice after all these years.

44 minutes ago, almanaotemcor said:

Honestly, I don’t care all that much about the friendship between Candice and Joan, but I find it sad that she’s become estranged from Doutzen. I’ve always felt that the friendship between this pair was much more genuine—though I do wonder just how messed up things must have gotten for Doutzen to distance herself from Candice after all these years.

I think Candice and Doutzen are fine. Candice posted throwbacks with Doutzen before the show, and there are a couple of pictures with Behati, Candice and Doutzen backstage. Sunnery still likes and comments on Candice's posts on Instagram, and Candice has liked posts of Doutzen at the show. I also saw a few folks on X or Reddit say Doutzen mentioned Candice in a backstage video.

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2 hours ago, Csalir said:

To be honest and provide some context as someone who's been following Joan on Instagram for years, Joan has always been like this. Even when she was Candice's “wifey” and everything was going great between them, she was always dropping hints, I don't know who they were aimed at, but it's something that's always been a constant with her.

+1. When Joan posted that story months ago exposing someone's phone number, X users speculated it was either Candice's or Riley Montana's—Riley used to be part of Joan's friend group until they had a falling out recently, and Riley was posting stories shading someone during that time.

Honestly, I don't agree with Candice dating Tom, but given that Joan and Tom were only a casual fling, there was nothing for Candice to "break up"... this is all starting to reek of Joan being jealous that she wasn't "chosen". Is dating your friend's former fling great? No. But at their age, Joan could have been happy for her friend (who's otherwise been loyal to her for 15 years)... or she could have quietly moved on from the friendship. There was no need for the public drama, except Joan seeking attention. It's also sad that Joan seems to have been triggered by Candice unfollowing her.

The last thing I'll say about all this (and I'm sorry for the spam)—I think Candice and Joan's friendship was genuine, but it's always seemed to me Candice is/was more genuinely herself with Behati and Rosie, or even Doutzen, Lais, Lily, etc. Seeing Behati, Candice and Rosie holding hands and dancing together during the finale like the old times was sweet 🥹

5 hours ago, Westside said:

Ali and Joan are a match made in heaven with these shady stories/posts

17 minutes ago, db92 said:

Ali and Joan are a match made in heaven with these shady stories/posts

100%

17 minutes ago, db92 said:

Ali and Joan are a match made in heaven with these shady stories/posts

18 minutes ago, db92 said:

Ali and Joan are a match made in heaven with these shady stories/posts

100% he has been throwing shade since she started, which ain’t helping candice. He’s probably the only one enjoying this whole mess since it’s bringing more attention to Candice. I’ve noticed that Candice does not have a good inner circle. I have always gotten a weird vibe when she started to hanged out with Joan’s inner circle, they seem fake and opportunist. I guess that’s a good and only good thing about tom, he’s not an opportunist but he is a womanizer. Homegirl Candice needs to pick better friends and better man.

21 minutes ago, Westside said:

100%

100% he has been throwing shade since she started, which ain’t helping candice. He’s probably the only one enjoying this whole mess since it’s bringing more attention to Candice. I’ve noticed that Candice does not have a good inner circle. I have always gotten a weird vibe when she started to hanged out with Joan’s inner circle, they seem fake and opportunist. I guess that’s a good and only good thing about tom, he’s not an opportunist but he is a womanizer. Homegirl Candice needs to pick better friends and better man.

It doesn't really surprise me that Candice used to hang out with Joan's squad. They’re all single, and she was too. Hanging out with Behati, Rosie, or Doutzen like she used to is probably tough since they're all settled down. Joan’s lifestyle definitely matched hers way more. We’ll just have to see what happens next though, 'cause Tom is literally so unpredictable. 😫

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10 hours ago, Westside said:

Joan is back to her unhingedness 🙃🫠

At this point she's just exposing herself as someone who needs and wants attention, is better for her if we ignore her and stop commenting what she wants us to comment.

8 hours ago, almanaotemcor said:

Honestly, I don’t care all that much about the friendship between Candice and Joan, but I find it sad that she’s become estranged from Doutzen. I’ve always felt that the friendship between this pair was much more genuine—though I do wonder just how messed up things must have gotten for Doutzen to distance herself from Candice after all these years.

We won't know for sure since Doutzen lives in her bubble in Netherlands and doesn't use Instagram anymore, she probably didn't feel like being backstage around people this time but if they felt apart it's sad because they were always there for each other.

I don't think Doutzen has fallen out with either Candice or Joan. She's been good friends with both of them for a long time, but since the pandemic, when she decided to step back almost entirely from the fashion industry and, shortly after, from social media as well (she now limits herself to only very sporadic appearances each year, which saddens me as a huge fan of hers), her relationship with them or with any other models who aren’t Dutch or who don’t spend much time in Amsterdam, seems to have cooled simply because she no longer sees them as often as she used to.

But I don’t think Doutzen had any problems with them because of this whole situation, although it can’t be a pleasant situation for her to see two good friends fighting. I imagine we’ve all been in a similar situation at some point, where two good friends or family members get into a fight, and you have nothing to do with it, but you don’t want to take sides because you like them both. She surely has her own opinion on the matter, just like the rest of us, but she seems mature enough not to get involved in matters that aren’t her business.

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5 hours ago, Westside said:

100%

100% he has been throwing shade since she started, which ain’t helping candice. He’s probably the only one enjoying this whole mess since it’s bringing more attention to Candice. I’ve noticed that Candice does not have a good inner circle. I have always gotten a weird vibe when she started to hanged out with Joan’s inner circle, they seem fake and opportunist. I guess that’s a good and only good thing about tom, he’s not an opportunist but he is a womanizer. Homegirl Candice needs to pick better friends and better man.

Now she doesn’t really have an inner circle outside of like Behati, Lily a, Rosie, Doutzen, Ali, and maybe Eduardo (but he’s been very distant the last few months).

Would that friend be Joan? 🤦‍♀️

34 minutes ago, db92 said:

Now she doesn’t really have an inner circle outside of like Behati, Lily a, Rosie, Doutzen, Ali, and maybe Eduardo (but he’s been very distant the last few months).

I wouldn't consider any of those models part of Candice's inner circle. Yes, they've been good friends with her for years, but her inner circle of friends can't consist of people she sees only once or twice a year. I do consider Eduardo part of it, for example, even though they seem a little more distant now, but we’ve seen Eduardo with her almost every week, spending a lot of time together; at times, it even seems like they’ve lived together for a while.

But Behati lives on the other coast of the United States, while Doutzen (Amsterdam) and Rosie (London) don’t even live on the same continent as Candice. Based on what they’ve shown us, in fact, I’d say the only model I would have considered part of Candice’s inner circle, someone I imagine her talking to every day or almost every day, was Joan, who also lives in Miami like her.

Candice’s real inner circle will consist of people we don’t know (and that’s perfectly fine), people from her everyday life, whom she’s met at the gym, at the office where she works on her Tropic of C brand, other moms from the activities she takes her kids to, and so on.

Something I noticed that Candice liked on Instagram that I thought was interesting... drama aside, this break with Joan and her circle might be the best thing for Candice in the long run. It felt like Candice never truly "fit in" with their circle or lifestyle. Seeing pictures of her with Behati and Rosie again this year (both at the VSFS and otherwise), reinforced that those friendships always felt more natural and solid than with Joan/Joan's circle. She's definitely still close to Jerome, and I think Lais, too. And there's Ali, of course. Eduardo posted a story on Candice's birthday saying "best friends are forever", so they're good, too. And she obviously has friends we don't know of, or may be closer to other people than we realize. While this is all unnecessary drama for Candice, I think she'll be fine without Joan/Joan's circle. She certainly has been for months now.

14 minutes ago, Csalir said:

I wouldn't consider any of those models part of Candice's inner circle. Yes, they've been good friends with her for years, but her inner circle of friends can't consist of people she sees only once or twice a year. I do consider Eduardo part of it, for example, even though they seem a little more distant now, but we’ve seen Eduardo with her almost every week, spending a lot of time together; at times, it even seems like they’ve lived together for a while.

But Behati lives on the other coast of the United States, while Doutzen (Amsterdam) and Rosie (London) don’t even live on the same continent as Candice. Based on what they’ve shown us, in fact, I’d say the only model I would have considered part of Candice’s inner circle, someone I imagine her talking to every day or almost every day, was Joan, who also lives in Miami like her.

Candice’s real inner circle will consist of people we don’t know (and that’s perfectly fine), people from her everyday life, whom she’s met at the gym, at the office where she works on her Tropic of C brand, other moms from the activities she takes her kids to, and so on.

Joan has/had an apartment in Miami, but she lives in New York. I think Lais is her closest model friend in Miami (from what we've seen).