jkjk Posted April 1, 2020 Posted April 1, 2020 26 minutes ago, Stormbringer said: So Ecuador's official number of deaths due to Covid-19 seems to be a huge lie There have been a few South American countries whose case numbers seem low. I can understand those being wrong because of the country being overwhelmed and a lack of testing. Reporting the number of deaths is more important. Countries should report the number of deaths accurately. I think you are right about Ecuador's deaths number, it seems low. Hopefully, not too many countries join China, Iran, etc. in faking their number of deaths. 15 minutes ago, Stromboli1 said: Sweden is going to be bad too as I've reading they've been doing daily pro migrant marches. The countries I keep thinking are going to have real problems soon are the largest and more densely populated countries which are still in the early stages. In addition to the large populations, many of them have very little testing. I'm thinking it will be bad in Brazil, Nigeria, India, Indonesia, Bangladesh, The Philippines, among others. Of course, if they lie about their numbers, we may not know how bad immediately. Quote
Enrico_sw Posted April 1, 2020 Posted April 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, jkjk said: The countries I keep thinking are going to have real problems soon are the largest and more densely populated countries which are still in the early stages. In addition to the large populations, many of them have very little testing. I'm thinking it will be bad in Brazil, Nigeria, India, Indonesia, Bangladesh, The Philippines, among others. Of course, if they lie about their numbers, we may not know how bad immediately. Yes, these countries are really at risk, but it's more than probable that they will lie or at least that they won't have enough testing to report accurate numbers. As always, I'm grateful to know that I'm in developped country. I know I'm very lucky and I'm grateful to the people that helped to build our system (even if it's not perfect). Quote
Stromboli1 Posted April 1, 2020 Posted April 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, jkjk said: The countries I keep thinking are going to have real problems soon are the largest and more densely populated countries which are still in the early stages. In addition to the large populations, many of them have very little testing. I'm thinking it will be bad in Brazil, Nigeria, India, Indonesia, Bangladesh, The Philippines, among others. Of course, if they lie about their numbers, we may not know how bad immediately. I agree! Countries that have large migrant populations which are enforcing the same rules as on their citizens are going have big problem as well as their duration period. I think Africa in general is going to get hit hard especially with their lack of medical facilities and supplies along with other poor countries. Quote
Cult Icon Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 On 3/31/2020 at 4:12 PM, Stromboli1 said: A lot of our choices will be reduced during this Crisis with very little hope of reopening. @Enrico_sw I hoarded TP ..I have enough for about 2 months. what are you guys eating regularly now? For the past 4 weeks I've only eaten bland food: diet rations (frozen broccoli and chicken), some frozen meat from storage and fresh vegetables, bread, rice, peanuts and packaged snacks and chocolate. I have enough chicken and broccoli to last me 5-6 weeks Quote
jkjk Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 Some countries are classifying deaths in a dishonest way. For example, if a patient was never tested for covid-19, but has clear symptoms of covid-19 dies, their death may be said to be a result of pneumonia or respiratory problems instead. Maybe that's not technically lying, but it's still misleading at a minimum. Quote
Cult Icon Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 The two towns are now 160 infected as of March 30th- I think the numbers have been spooking people out and it was more empty than usual. Bergen County at 3,494 infected, 75 dead- with a further 4,500 positives to be distributed throughout the state. USA at 215,000 infected (with half in tri-state- 83000 in New York State), 1,375 dead in NYC https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html Quote
jkjk Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, Cult Icon said: what are you guys eating regularly now? I am doing a very bad job of just eating whatever is around, and too much of it. Maybe it's boredom or stress eating, but it's dumb. Quote
Cult Icon Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, jkjk said: I am doing a very bad job of just eating whatever is around, and too much of it. Maybe it's boredom or stress eating, but it's dumb. I am eating in a way to minimize going to the grocery store. To my understanding, the particles are most easily transmitted in enclosed spaces- and the irony is that only the pharmacies, gas station, and grocery stores are open. I read that according to recent tests, it floats in the air for a maximum of 3 hours and then falls on surfaces. I think a mistake that many people are making is not protecting their eyes. The particles can infect you through the eyes, too. Today I was told that my mother's office closed as someone got infected from going to the hospital to pick up paperwork. He had the face mask but not eye protection. It might be better to always wear sunglasses, too. Quote
jkjk Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 There are not many countries reporting the virus like Brazil. The ministry of health seems to give official numbers for both confirmed and suspected cases while most countries only report confirmed. It gives a more realistic picture of the larger number of people with symptoms. It's probably not a great idea to trust the president of Brazil to be honest with this, but maybe he is letting the ministry of health do its job? Quote
Cult Icon Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 The numbers have a serious lag, the real number of infected is definitely much greater. Quote
jkjk Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Cult Icon said: I read that according to recent tests, it floats in the air for a maximum of 3 hours and then falls on surfaces. I don't think what I have seen on that is clear to me. This is how I understand it now, but I'm not sure it's correct. If someone coughs, sneezes, or talks, what comes out of the mouth can travel a significant distance but gravity pulls it to the ground quickly. (different studies give different distances that can be covered) During medical procedures like intubation and CPR, a person expels what is in the mouth in more of a spray and that's what can stay in the air for up to three hours. Quote
Cult Icon Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 Yes, I read an article that was something like. It seems that many news articles downplay its abilities. I don't entirely believe it, as it seems that CV is poorly understood and it has spread like wildfire. If it was so clumsy, why so many people getting infected? (rhetorical question). I also thought of mosquitos and biting flies. It's getting warmer. I searched articles and they claim that these insects are not known to transmit them. I dunno, we'll see? This is important for me as I'm outside everyday. Quote
Stromboli1 Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 41 minutes ago, Cult Icon said: what are you guys eating regularly now? Still eat my regulars........ eggs, chicken, pork, steak, and vegetables as nothing is frozen either. Still running my charcoal grill too. Just can't get any cookie mixes cause they're all sold out as well as cake mixes which is odd considering everything else is in stock. I'm not about to pay $4.50 for a fucking pint of Ben and Jerry's ice cream either. 47 minutes ago, Cult Icon said: For the past 4 weeks I've only eaten bland food: diet rations (frozen broccoli and chicken), some frozen meat from storage and fresh vegetables, bread, rice, peanuts and packaged snacks and chocolate. I have enough chicken and broccoli to last me 5-6 weeks That's pretty good, I have some protein bars just in case. Quote
Stromboli1 Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 I think we can all agree the info out right now sucks shit, as we learn more it'll turn the tide which will hopefully reduce reinfection and more waves in November and February. Quote
Cult Icon Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 Right now, the grocery stores around here are roughly at 5-10% capacity based on viewing their parking lots. Quote
Stromboli1 Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 People all over the country are buying a record number of guns during the crisis. Most of them are city folk, you know the anti 2nd amendment crowd. I know in New Jersey you have to write an essay to get a gun. Quote
Cult Icon Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 20 minutes ago, Stromboli1 said: Still eat my regulars........ eggs, chicken, pork, steak, and vegetables as nothing is frozen either. Still running my charcoal grill too. Just can't get any cookie mixes cause they're all sold out as well as cake mixes which is odd considering everything else is in stock. I'm not about to pay $4.50 for a fucking pint of Ben and Jerry's ice cream either. Next time I go I will have to get cake and cookie mixes. I have zero. I have a lot of frozen meat (pork and chicken) and some shrimp, but the hardest part is putting the effort to cook them. Quote
Cult Icon Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 17 minutes ago, Stromboli1 said: I think we can all agree the info out right now sucks shit, as we learn more it'll turn the tide which will hopefully reduce reinfection and more waves in November and February. I check the numbers everyday and am waiting to see them dip..so far it's bad news twice a day. Quote
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