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^ nooooo really? 2 of my favorite posters :cry2:

but i don't know how long i'll be here on BZ since i have tons of work to do these 2 years. also I have many fan sites to maintain as well.... but I'm just trying to keep it alive here since this is one of the best forums i know of :yes:

Oh wow, what an honour to be one of your favourite posters!

Yikes, I noticed that this thread is sort of quiet :( Shame I don't have that much time to come here anymore (or maybe the fact that I am off Mathias is probably the reason?????).

Anyway, so how is everyone doing?

I am doing good, still in Uni and the whole shebang :)

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Megan's persona bothers you, yet you still like to discuss the issue. Brilliant. Didn't you say you were done talking a page ago or something?

You all seem to enjoy picking it apart, so yes I've chosen to share my rebutal with you. Feel free to stop responding anytime and my replies will doubtless end too.. pity you all seem to be hyper-sensitive when it comes to the slightest negative point.

So basically you want to have the last word in a forum conversation. Will that make you feel better about your opinion on Megan or something? Will it make you feel correct? LOL.

I"ll ask you again. If Megan's persona bothers you, why do you keep posting in her thread? Logically that would annoy you more. Unless of course, you really are that bored with your life.

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I don't want to be labeled a hater or shouted at or mocked for giving my opinion here, so please control yourselves, Fox lovers...

Having been a HUGE Fox fan just a few months ago... I'm sort of on the fence now. I think people need to stop totally hating on her ( really, she's got quite a hater base already! She's just human, people!) but I guess I can understand what they're talking about.

Let's face it, she really can't act! Okay, fine, but she's a pretty face and a young girl who's not going to make a pr*ck of herself in the name of fame. Cool. Love it. That's fine and dandy.

HOWEVER... now I hear her beauty is not real, but surgical. Sorry, she's absolutely lovely looking, but I find it hard to admire someones beauty or think of them as a beauty icon when I could easily look as good if I had her money\surgeon. I mean, I'm a good-looking girl so with Megan's surgery I could probably be just as stunning... so it's hard for me to admire her for her attrativeness because of that.

So, that leaves me with loving her for being a girl who doesn't make an arse of herself for attention... Well, she doesn't. She's not a bainless party freak... but little of what she says really interests me, and that doesn't give her much star quality.

Basically, I can't admire her beauty anymore, she's not so talented at the moment ( it may change with experience), and she doesn't really DO anything to keep my attention... she doesn't say interesting things, she doesn't blow me away with her talent, she doesn't dress really amazing, or take very interesting roles.

Right now, I guess I'm just bored with Megan... and I'm sort of a bit sad about it! With no talent, no "true" great beauty, and no great films in the pipeline... I don't know why she's famous! Why should I venerate her? Hmm...

I guess I'm probably feeling odd because today the world lost one of it's greatest sex symbols, the amazing Farrah Fawcett, who was naturally beautiful, intelligent, moral, interesting, and a good actress... she really DESERVED her status as an icon. Megan is our icon today... she doesn't hold a candle to Farrah! She doesn't even have a flame!

Still, she's twenty-two. I think we need to cut her some slack! I just hope she does some amazing films soon or something...

Again, please don't act like reactionary bulldogs and bite my head off. I'm not calling Megan a bitch, because I don't know her... I'm just pointing out why I no longer find her of much interest. Time may change things again though.

( P.S: I feel I should point out that this is a Megan Fox THREAD, not a FANSITE. I think the key is not just saying " Like Megan or get lost", but just respecting each other and not overstating your opinion, positive or negative. Sorry if I sound like I have a god-complex, I'm just trying to help. It'll just get on everyone's nerves if you do 5 posts with the same opinion in them. xxXxx)

I respect your opinion on that matter, but I just don't find it a very smart one. I mean you don't like her acting abilities which is fine, but who is to say she isn't working hard to improve her acting skills? I mean is that really a reason to hate a person? Because they are famous, but their acting isn't so great? Sounds more like jealousy to me. And she's a pretty girl and she may have had some work done but honestly who cares? Does that really bother you? That Megan is famous because she is pretty and you aren't? Or that her interviews she gives aren't that interesting to yourself? Really...that sounds like clear-as-day jealousy.

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^ Dude, fanatically defending Fox isn't going to get you a date with her or earn her personal thanks or anything. Calm down!

Any making illogical statements like you just did with no evidence to arrive to a certain conclusion like that is definitely not going to make you a smarter person.

Seriously, do you even know what's going on? This doesn't have to do with just Megan Fox like you're ridiculously implying. I already stated this in this very thread.

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I respect your opinion on that matter, but I just don't find it a very smart one. I mean you don't like her acting abilities which is fine, but who is to say she isn't working hard to improve her acting skills? I mean is that really a reason to hate a person? Because they are famous, but their acting isn't so great? Sounds more like jealousy to me. And she's a pretty girl and she may have had some work done but honestly who cares? Does that really bother you? That Megan is famous because she is pretty and you aren't? Or that her interviews she gives aren't that interesting to yourself? Really...that sounds like clear-as-day jealousy.

... Oh my god! I'm really sorry to say this because I've thought you've been reasonable in all the Megan bashing\defending, but what's wrong with you?

1. I said that she wasn't a good actress right now but may improve, so your point there is sort of invalid. Also, I clearly stated I do not " hate" Megan, so your point is a little over-the-top there, too. Calm down! Not everyone who says something negative about Megan " hates" her.

2. How did anything I said suggest I am jealous???!! :blink: If you check back a few pages, you'll find posts from me when I was a big Megan fan just coo'ing over her beauty and saying how hot she was. All I said was that I CANNOT consider her a beauty icon because she has altered her face to be so beautiful, and so it's not the natural beauty required to be seen as a TRUE icon ( e.g, Marilyn Monroe, Angelina Jolie, Jean Harlow etc.) I'm not saying she is or ever has been ugly, NO WAY! But I can't admire unnatural beauty, and I don't see why unnatural beauty on it's own should make someone famous because ANYONE can obtain it with a good doctor and cash. That was my only point there. Your statement, " Does that really bother you? That Megan is famous because she is pretty and you aren't?" frankly just sounds nuts! I don't think anyone who visits a fashion forum is going to be jealous over someone being successful for their beauty! Also, I'm a nineteen year old woman, not a twelve year old! And I'm more than pleased with what god gave me.

I just think you've ruined your credibility by being ridiculously rude. I'm sorry. I don't like to point fingers and make harsh accusations, but I think you're a little... well, too into Megan Fox. It seems if anyone says anything against her you jump to discredit and insult them. My only point was that I can no longer find a reason to see star quality in Megan but that I was hoping that would change, and you turned that into an insult against me. Can I not state my opinion? It's not as if I said it in a horrible way, or tried to say anything personal against Megan!

Please, take a breath of fresh air and get your head straight. People should be able to state their opinions if they do so nicely without being attacked. It just makes the thread a horrible place, and guess what? It will make people avoid the thread, thus limiting Megan's fan base here. Is that what you want? I doubt it.

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Megan's persona bothers you, yet you still like to discuss the issue. Brilliant. Didn't you say you were done talking a page ago or something?

You all seem to enjoy picking it apart, so yes I've chosen to share my rebutal with you. Feel free to stop responding anytime and my replies will doubtless end too.. pity you all seem to be hyper-sensitive when it comes to the slightest negative point.

You know, it's pretty sad that in 5, maybe 10 years, you're still here posting the same things you do now. It's because you can't let her go. She's interesting for you, may you like it or not.

You say you like bringing up controversial points, but it's only to make you feel better. You're evaluating everything she says, and that's fine, because that's who you are. But you're trying to hard. You want people to say that you're right. I don't really care that you come here and bash her in every post. But like I said, I do find it sad that you will do that for as long as you can.

First off I didn't realize '07 to '09 consituted as 5-10 years, however I'm not going to comment on your apparent lack of mathematical skills and I believe if you go ever every post I've ever made I didn't say I didn't find her entertaining, god when people put their foot in their mouth continuously how can you not help but be entertained. And yes bringing up controversial points makes me feel better, want to know why? Because all your responses and your fanatical devotion to a woman that none of you know brings me great humor.

Oh, and evaluating everything she says, sweetie that's not me... that's the media, that's their job and that's Hollywood baby. I don't particularily care if you think I'm right, I don't need validation from you people. As for you allegedly not caring about what I have to say I believe I'm going to disagree, you felt the need to respond after all that shows some type of caring.

Megan's persona bothers you, yet you still like to discuss the issue. Brilliant. Didn't you say you were done talking a page ago or something?

You all seem to enjoy picking it apart, so yes I've chosen to share my rebutal with you. Feel free to stop responding anytime and my replies will doubtless end too.. pity you all seem to be hyper-sensitive when it comes to the slightest negative point.

So basically you want to have the last word in a forum conversation. Will that make you feel better about your opinion on Megan or something? Will it make you feel correct? LOL.

I"ll ask you again. If Megan's persona bothers you, why do you keep posting in her thread? Logically that would annoy you more. Unless of course, you really are that bored with your life.

Because your continued responses and fanatical devotion to the woman are bringing me immense humor and bringing out the people I adore hearing from out of the woodwork. God a good catfight is brilliant, especially when one person starts putting their foot in their mouth and insulting the people who are actually standing up for them. Holla mbinebre! :heart:

( P.S: I feel I should point out that this is a Megan Fox THREAD, not a FANSITE. I think the key is not just saying " Like Megan or get lost", but just respecting each other and not overstating your opinion, positive or negative. Sorry if I sound like I have a god-complex, I'm just trying to help. It'll just get on everyone's nerves if you do 5 posts with the same opinion in them. xxXxx)

I respect your opinion on that matter, but I just don't find it a very smart one. I mean you don't like her acting abilities which is fine, but who is to say she isn't working hard to improve her acting skills? I mean is that really a reason to hate a person? Because they are famous, but their acting isn't so great? Sounds more like jealousy to me. And she's a pretty girl and she may have had some work done but honestly who cares? Does that really bother you? That Megan is famous because she is pretty and you aren't? Or that her interviews she gives aren't that interesting to yourself? Really...that sounds like clear-as-day jealousy.

Well, I was going to disaparage you for your rudeness, and the personal attack you made against Stamoholic as I respected her opinion and the way she shared it, however she seems to have beat me to the punch. Gotta agree with everything she said there... kudos Stamoholic!

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1. I said that she wasn't a good actress right now but may improve, so your point there is sort of invalid. Also, I clearly stated I do not " hate" Megan, so your point is a little over-the-top there, too. Calm down! Not everyone who says something negative about Megan " hates" her.

No you didn't. Where did you say you think she may improve in that area in your last post? Where did you say that?

2. How did anything I said suggest I am jealous???!! :blink: If you check back a few pages, you'll find posts from me when I was a big Megan fan just coo'ing over her beauty and saying how hot she was. All I said was that I CANNOT consider her a beauty icon because she has altered her face to be so beautiful, and so it's not the natural beauty required to be seen as a TRUE icon ( e.g, Marilyn Monroe, Angelina Jolie, Jean Harlow etc.) I'm not saying she's ugly, NO WAY! But I can't admire unnatural beauty, and I don't see why unnatural beauty should make someone famous because ANYONE can obtain it with a good doctor and cash. That was my only point there. Your statement, " Does that really bother you? That Megan is famous because she is pretty and you aren't?" frankly just sounds nuts! I don't think anyone who visits a fashion forum is going to be jealous over someone being successful for their beauty! Also, I'm a nineteen year old woman, not a twelve year old! And I'm more than pleased with what god gave me.
Well with the way you worded your post it sounds like you didn't admire Megan because she had some work done and she didn't have that great of acting skills. Really though, is that something to seriously complain about? That is why I took it as jealousy. Look at what you said here:

HOWEVER... now I hear her beauty is not real, but surgical. Sorry, she's absolutely lovely looking, but I find it hard to admire someones beauty or think of them as a beauty icon when I could easily look as good if I had her money\surgeon. I mean, I'm a good-looking girl so with Megan's surgery I could probably be just as stunning... so it's hard for me to admire her for her attrativeness because of that.

Really that sounds like Megan has something that you want. Plain and simple. It's not like she's a porn star and completely looks like another person. And newsflash, fake beauty makes money no matter what it is. That doesn't just go for plastic surgery. It goes for makeup, clothes, accessories, etc. That is the way the world works. You might as well be disinterested in 99% of the women showcased in this forum. Since they used money to amplify their beauty.

I just think you've ruined your credibility by being ridiculously rude. I'm sorry. I don't like to point fingers and make harsh accusations, but I think you're a little... well, too into Megan Fox. It seems if anyone says anything against her you jump to discredit and insult them. My only point was that I can no longer find a reason to see star quality in Megan but that was hoping that would change, and you turned that into an insult against me. Can I not state my opinion? It's not as if I said it in a horrible way, or tried to say anything personal against Megan!

Please, take a breath of fresh air and get your head straight. People should be able to state their opinions if they do so nicely without being attacked. It just makes the thread a horrible place, and guess what? It will make people avoid the thread, thus limiting Megan's fan base here.

Really I just thought the reasons you found Megan Fox uninteresting were dumb to me. I mean why were you a Megan Fox fan in the first place if little stuff like what you listed made you loss interest in her? And my criticism of people complaining about little stupid things regarding Megan Fox isn't just limited to her. It branches out a lot farther to any celebrity or famous person that receives undeserved criticism. It happens here on this forum in abundance all the time especially around the time the Victoria's Secret Fashion show rolls around. All the models get bashed for no reason at all. It's ridiculous.

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Because your continued responses and fanatical devotion to the woman are bringing me immense humor and bringing out the people I adore hearing from out of the woodwork. God a good catfight is brilliant, especially when one person starts putting their foot in their mouth and insulting the people who are actually standing up for them. Holla mbinebre! :heart:

So you just proved me right by implying that you really are that bored with your life that you continue to post in a thread about a subject that bothers you. That is so logical. In terms of being amused, I must admit the feeling is definitely mutual. :rofl:

Well, I was going to disaparage you for your rudeness, and the personal attack you made against Stamoholic as I respected her opinion and the way she shared it, however she seems to have beat me to the punch. Gotta agree with everything she said there... kudos Stamoholic!

Personal attack? Hmmm? Only if she takes it that way. I didn't call her any names nor was I bullying her for my own amusement. Just disagreeing with her opinion and debating about a subject on a message board. You know, using this website like it's supposed to be used. Your definition of personally attacking someone is quite sparse and inaccurate. But of course this isn't surprising.

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1. I said that she wasn't a good actress right now but may improve, so your point there is sort of invalid. Also, I clearly stated I do not " hate" Megan, so your point is a little over-the-top there, too. Calm down! Not everyone who says something negative about Megan " hates" her.

No you didn't. Where did you say you think she may improve in that area in your last post? Where did you say that?

HOWEVER... now I hear her beauty is not real, but surgical. Sorry, she's absolutely lovely looking, but I find it hard to admire someones beauty or think of them as a beauty icon when I could easily look as good if I had her money\surgeon. I mean, I'm a good-looking girl so with Megan's surgery I could probably be just as stunning... so it's hard for me to admire her for her attrativeness because of that.

Really that sounds like Megan has something that you want. Plain and simple. It's not like she's a porn star and completely looks like another person. And newsflash, fake beauty makes money no matter what it is. That doesn't just go for plastic surgery. It goes for makeup, clothes, accessories, etc. That is the way the world works.

Really I just thought the reasons you found Megan Fox uninteresting were dumb to me. I mean why were you a Megan Fox fan in the first place if little stuff like what you listed made you loss interest in her? And my criticism of people complaining about little stupid things regarding Megan Fox isn't just limited to her. It branches out a lot farther to any celebrity or famous person that receives undeserved criticism. It happens here on this forum in abundance all the time especially around the time the Victoria's Secret Fashion show rolls around. All the models get bashed for no reason at all. It's ridiculous.

Seriously you need to back the hell off, I've been making comments about Megan here, and how your responses humor me, but now you just jumping down Stam's throat for no reason. She stated an opinion and you're getting exceptionally defensive and snarky, which is not appropriate or needed. We were having a debate blue.. a lively debate but a debate non-the-less. There is no need to say that someone's opnion is dumb, or that people are stating things that are stupid... Simply say I disagree, why you disagree and move along. Wow you're almost reminding me of the old Adriana fans.. and the current Laetitia fans, which btw is not a flattering comparision.

:heart: Laetitia :heart: Sorry couldn't resist...

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1. I said that she wasn't a good actress right now but may improve, so your point there is sort of invalid. Also, I clearly stated I do not " hate" Megan, so your point is a little over-the-top there, too. Calm down! Not everyone who says something negative about Megan " hates" her.

No you didn't. Where did you say you think she may improve in that area in your last post? Where did you say that?

HOWEVER... now I hear her beauty is not real, but surgical. Sorry, she's absolutely lovely looking, but I find it hard to admire someones beauty or think of them as a beauty icon when I could easily look as good if I had her money\surgeon. I mean, I'm a good-looking girl so with Megan's surgery I could probably be just as stunning... so it's hard for me to admire her for her attrativeness because of that.

Really that sounds like Megan has something that you want. Plain and simple. It's not like she's a porn star and completely looks like another person. And newsflash, fake beauty makes money no matter what it is. That doesn't just go for plastic surgery. It goes for makeup, clothes, accessories, etc. That is the way the world works.

Really I just thought the reasons you found Megan Fox uninteresting were dumb to me. I mean why were you a Megan Fox fan in the first place if little stuff like what you listed made you loss interest in her? And my criticism of people complaining about little stupid things regarding Megan Fox isn't just limited to her. It branches out a lot farther to any celebrity or famous person that receives undeserved criticism. It happens here on this forum in abundance all the time especially around the time the Victoria's Secret Fashion show rolls around. All the models get bashed for no reason at all. It's ridiculous.

Seriously you need to back the hell off, I've been making comments about Megan here, and how your responses humor me, but now you just jumping down Stam's throat for no reason. She stated an opinion and you're getting exceptionally defensive and snarky, which is not appropriate or needed. We were having a debate blue.. a lively debate but a debate non-the-less. There is no need to say that someone's opnion is dumb, or that people are stating things that are stupid... Simply say I disagree, why you disagree and move along. Wow you're almost reminding me of the old Adriana fans.. and the current Laetitia fans, which btw is not a flattering comparision.

If this bothers you, leave the thread. I'm sorry if I hurt the person's feelings. I may do you really want me to mince words in the last post? Replacing "I don't think your opinion is a very smart one" with "I disagree"? I'll keep that in mind if most people are really that sensitive.

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