Souled-Out

Or that we are "racist". Or we don't know just because we are fans. NO, we know Adriana. We know when something isn't right between her and these dudes. We always have been spot on about how not good they are.

Here is the original tweet it comes from. And look, its based off of that pose he did at her party This person obviously doesn't dislike Adriana but they also aren't big fans like us and even they can see what he is really about

I agree, its not a coincidence. But atleast when lais got her FB, that was the most amount of likes the VS account ever got for a fb picture.

Personally I am worried and angry. Angry because she let somebody like him draw her into this despite him clearly upsetting her more than once and she has only known him six months. She could have been free of it if she actually acted on the other times he screwed up.And I feel like by now, she has to be aware of all the shady things he has done, and how him and his family has used strategies to create a false truth about her relationship with him and to get attention from it. But It seems she still plans to be with him. I am angry at her for having the opportunities to release his hold from her and she doesn't seem to have done it. Instead she seems to still go out her way for him (posting on a private account that he is allowed to follow, since he hasn't followed her on her public ig account). She still brought her kids around him, she shouldn't because she doesn't know how long he will stick around and its gonna be confusing for them. Plus she hasn't even known him a year yet. So I am angry at her for all of that, because Adriana herself has already gotten upset with him more than ONCE. I don't want to be worried for her because like I said, you can't be worried FOR someone who isn't even worried about themselves although they should be. You just can't help to be worried because we see what he is really about. Even though Adriana isn't being smart about how she handles him, we still know she has a good heart and she is vulnerable. IDK about the head she has on her shoulders sometimes lol but we know she is kind hearted. And people who are manipulative like him and calculated like him will take advantage of that. Everybody here sees it. Literally everybody sees it, even the media did.. And sometimes, I feel Adriana is mad at the world for that. But it is what it is, if he has done shady shit, he has done shady shit. She should be mad at him for constantly coming off so shady and she should act on that. And I agree, that person I think knew him. Its like Joe all over again. We see horrible signs from his actions. And someone who also knew joe , got on youtube video about adriana, saying she shouldn't be with him and they had linked his mugshot picture and mentioned he had a bad past. Adriana ended up having an awful break up with him and it looks like he still stalks her on social media Instead of constantly giving a guy chances and bringing him around her kids, she needs to distance herself. For once, stop waiting until things get horrible before letting the bf go.

No but she has nice looks and not awful at selfie taking so, boom on her social media success. I do agree on what you said about her work.

I think lily is a good person.

'Ya'll don't realize you have this discussion every week? Lol. Is it really that surprising? She has a really pretty face, she is working more than Sara and Alessandra (in terms of modelling), I THINK, I could be wrong because I am not an expert on Sara's career. But yeah, she can take good selfies with that special filter she uses and she has imo a better look than Sara and Alessandra. Alessandra, is just older and from a different era and has officially retired from VS. She doesn't have a famous partner, I suspect her social media count is going to start slowing. Taylor is on the opposite end of her career now.

Which isn't right nor true because the difference between metin and an actual therapist is, 1. The therapist is certified and has an actual office and all that. The way metin travels and stuff, he obviously doesn't have that, atleast not a real office. 2. They aren't looking to seek any benefit from being with her. They aren't there for no relationship. They aren't there to be with her intimately. They actually aren't there to change her, literally JUST to help her. They don't WANT anything from her, it truly is their job to allow for her to be stable, get better, and to just help her. No manipulating nor using her is needed because they aren't trying to be her partner or anything like that. But like you said there is a complex with Adriana herself that keeps her from simply seeking professional help and therapy and its because there is hole that she thinks a man must fill. Also, the people in her life obviously avoid even suggesting good things like this to her. ...She has YET to try to get better without dating someone at the same time. And she still has not realized that maybe this dating shit is the root of it all. Maybe that is the problem: Quickly trusting someone inside of your life and allowing them to change you and just create a PUPPET out of you, is going to fuck with your life too Adriana. She can't be serious about finding herself again and all that, if she still allowing new people to come in and out of her life and invade her privacy . Through out all of this the only thing that has been constant in her life besides her kids, is the fact that she is dating. The boyfriends change, the friends change, the ways she tries to heal and "find herself" change. But in the end the result is always the same, it gets bad, she gets hurt. But What else is always the same? She isn't single through out the entire process and the reason why she is hurt is because of the man she was with. Maybe she should actually try being single while finding herself (because she has not been found), like soph said its like 3 years of this, the only thing that hasn't changed is that she has some man by her side. When will she start looking at them and start considering the consequences and the bad things they have already done before letting it get bad? I feel like metin has done enough for her to start considering, she was drinking her sorrows while on vacation two weeks ago! Its a cycle. And this cycle will never break if she refuses to realize this or if someone else in her life won't tell her to realize it. But as you and soph and nhlovesadri have implied, its like beating a dead horse. We have continued to beat it because its just so crazy but also because we care about her and worried about her. As painful as it is, we just have to stop worrying about someone who doesn't seem to be worried about themselves or whats going on with them, even though they should. Prayers the only thing we can give her at this point

Sadly agree 100%. I'll still pray for her and her family though.

Yeah but 1. I didn't think it was a conscious decision. 2. This was before someone found out about that account. She is making a choice to post on one account and not the other, thats something new to all of us. I thought like a normal person, she would be too distracted or busy to think about posting something. Not purposely avoiding it. Maybe the post did have to do with metin, and if thats the case, thats good and bad. Good for us, because we don't want to see that shit. Still bad because that means she still gives him too much power that he just doesn't deserve. She has to use a whole other account just to still post about him and she doesn't want to post on her public profile right now unless it is about him? Like when in China, she wouldn't post ANYTHING unless it had to do with metin or quoting him, despite a huge fashion show that she loves happening The photocall day, everybody wondering where Adriana was and if she was still there. Instead of posting herself or anybody during the press day and photocall, she posted some old picture of herself quoting him I am over Metin's manipulative, sneaky and controlling ways. But its a slower process to get over how Adriana let it take over her life, especially in a short amount of time. Its crazy how she knows she has lost herself, but she probably think she found herself through him. When really she is creating this new person of herself. Thats not finding yourself, she hasn't found herself, she is turning into someone else. The old her is def not who she is now, and is still somewhere out there. And watch metin is praying that she never finds that strong, ,hard working, independent and admirable woman again.

Yeah, no post to 11.6 million followers but a post to just 4 followers? This is ASSUMING the 6th post came after new years. Thats why I am like, is she purposely not posting anything on her public account. For WHATEVER reason. Is she mad that its obvious that alot of her fans and people in GENERAL don't like him for her or something? They only don't because he is shady and they are scared for her. I would normally not think that low of Adriana and would hope she understood concerns, if this was two years ago I wouldn't even think this. But lately she is so hard to understand, as well as to like. We don't understand what she is about anymore. Like I said, we all know why that is now. Adriana is constantly a reflection of who she dates. Isn't it funny how people don't understand her lately, and at the same time, she is dating somebody who seems like lunatic to everyone else. IDK if SHE made him stop posting. Its obvious he reads here, maybe he stopped because we stated how obvious he was being posting Adriana, when she isn't looking and stuff just to prove that he is with her. You know his sneaky self always stops doing something after WE call out how it looks bad. Maybe I was wrong, and Adriana really does chooses to not use her public account when around her bf. Which is just fucking strange, she can't keep herself from quoting him or something? So she just gonna stop posting all together? Of course her team, sits back and does nothing. And yeah, her mom doesn't follow. I know Adrielle is one of the followers. Don't know the others who do. Don't really care. Its usual for a celeb to have an account on social media thats not public. I don't follow her, so I don't know when she made that new post, I remember if she still had 5 posts before the new year. But if the 6th post was made after new years and she only got four followers on it and nothing is updated for her account with 11.6 million.. This is me: Actually that gif has been me since November. If you just look at Adriana's actions from the start of November last year, you would be like WTF to alot of the things she has done and said. The only time she came back normal was when the show aired, when she was in dubai, when she came back from dubai, and during christmas. Metin was missing during all of those times. She was very strange in China too and metin wasn't around, BUT she also wasn't upset at metin during that time.

Acting isn't something everyone can be very successful at, especially not models. Tyra has done the most acting out of all VS models ever and she has never gotten that far with it nor did it stick. I just want to see more modelling work from Adriana this year but I don't know. I feel like she just doesn't care about her career or anything related to it much anymore, she is starting 2018 off badly with it. Not doing anything to help it at all so far. If that a1 account is hers, a post had been added to that very recently,but nothing has been added to her public profile where she has way more than four followers and she hasn't posted not a thing in nearly a week. Why post something for 4 followers but not 11.6 million followers? I mean she was posting more and being normal about her public profile when in Dubai and for christmas, but we know whats the difference between her being in dubai during christmas and what she has going on now

Yeah... Prayers for Adriana indeed because something in the milk isn’t clean. She is risking alot already being involved with him, only for him and his family and friends disrespect her privacy and home and trying to spread false truths about her. You can’t trust people like that and she has too much to lose.

Her eyes are open but she isn't looking at the photographers. What makes this look weird is him and its because his eyes and face is looking directly to the people capturing it. Adriana's face is turned completely. Her eyes are probably because he reached up to kiss her, shown in the picture that @fieldofoptics post

I wish all Adriana saw was him being a boy. She was talking about him like he was god at one point. She def saw him as too much. I do agree that what was driving Adriana to allow him in her presence after all this shit, and to let him manipulate and change her and had her talking about him like he was god at one point, is she feels he did her a favor. She feels like she owes him something but, she should not forget, he is still a human being and he is still a man. All that he has been doing, reminds us all thats what he is. And she needs to look at him that way. So, her fans or whatever don't know him personally like she does, but that doesn't mean she shouldn't be OBJECTIVE when looking at him and his actions. She has been very subjective and biased, thinking since he is closer to her, alot of people are just wrong. When really, we can think this way because we aren't close to him. He isnt trying to trick us. We have no feelings for him so we aren't blinded, at first people like me were ok with him and even used to defend him. But now his actions speak louder than his words. And we aren't going to give him the benefit of the doubt because we have no emotions for him. She is a successful, big, beautiful Top model. People are going to use her. She is also vulnerable, she feel like she lost her soul. People are going to take advantage of her for that too, because she is so successful and beautiful. Metin looks like he is one of those people now. She can be grateful for whatever it is he has done, but that does not mean she owes him. She doesn't have to change her life and ways to revolve around him. It does not mean she has to accept the wrong things he has done to her. It does not mean it is ok for him to like comments that praise him and only giving HIM credit for who she is right now and that imply adriana wasn't a modest person before. I don't care what he has supposedly had done for her, enough is enough. She is being used and manipulated and its not worth that because he is just a human being and a human being she only met six months ago. She can be grateful without tolerating disrespect and being used.

Quoting myself because after all of this, he is currently fishing into his comments, liking stuff again. Why does he always do that after a stunt is pulled? Its like the first thing he does is go on there to see how much attention and "fans" he gained from it. I don't like talking about older people neither, but his mom is showing behavior just as sneaky and conniving as him. Not only did she make that comment under photos knowing that people would notice. But she is talking to fans via direct messages about adriana and metin, and she not bothering to deny the rumors her and metin clearly started. WHO does that?? This is crazy. They all have the same agenda towards Adriana. And she has being seen as this object that they want to possess. Even going as far as to create lies about her and him , so that the press can pick up on it

Trying to have a good time and find herself too, he knows it and yes he has been plotting, while knowing All adriana wants is for her life to get better. He used that to try to change her and now to gain attention from her. About that picture, the picture after it shows that weird kiss, it is infamously weird. And you know why the kiss looks wierd? Because as Adriana is kissing him, his eyes are open and now looking directly at the photographers. Look at his eye, look at how his face isn't even turned towards her fully, because he is looking at people who are capturing it

Its insane someone who has only known Adriana for six months can cause this much drama, we see he has hurt her once and even has so much influence on a woman has worked so hard for 18 years to be where she is

Same for me, she quickly pulled away. It seemed it was from the camera. And when the person who deleted the photo posted she didn't tag an engagement ring, so he clearly didn't ask there....It is scary how they are so focused on creating this picture of their relationship to the press with Adriana, as well as the lack of privacy and respect for Adriana and even her home. She is truly being taken in advantage of. Her kindness, tendency to brush things off and taking advantage of her name and success and their association with her.

Metin AND his fam knows how that press work. And he also knows how far fetched they can be. He was liking comments last night about the press. He knows the press well. And you can tell he is STILL bothered by the press just saying him and adriana were spererated. Even though it should NOT matter because he is literally with Adriana now, that should be good enough. He should not care SO much what the press think. It should be enough, just being with her. But no, everybody MUST know about them and their relationship. Then before metin came to miami, his family did give old private photos of Adriana with them to prove, they weren't broken up: So both metin and his family, know how turkish press works. So why would he even suggest the engagement pose. Also, lets not forget his turkish friends posted it too. Now his mom/sister are commenting "welcome to the family" under the posts. They all know how turkish press was. They all know all adriana had to do was to unfollow him, for separation rumors to start. So they should know commenting certain things on social media and doing certain poses at a party where people have their phones out would cause rumors. They KNOW these engagement rumors would get started by their actions and what they say And I agree, Adriana's privacy and private life has been invaded alot recently because of metin. Lets not forget his turkish friends running around in her house (during the party) on their ig stories How much longer is Adriana gonna let the disrespect continue?

@Miss Bathory Sadly she will lose more than fans. Part of her success is due to her having so many fans and people liking her for who she was (thats how she got that wax figure). Plus, making an announcement about a career decision instead of handling it privately about just not doing something anymore, may turn people in the industry away from her. Atleast if she just made the decision private, people in the industry would THINK about her for a job, and then all she would have to do is decline. Now, they probably would say "oh no, she announced, so we shouldn't bother asking her to do this work" This is all why her fans are upset NOW. Not as many people disliked him this much until she started expressing weird behavior and handled her career decision wrong, and then he literally took credit for her making that decision by liking the comments that he did. Not to mention his attention seeking behavior about her Even if she doesn't breakup with him, the least she could do is not let him and his "influence" spill over into her career and other parts of her life. Like be capable of dating someone without letting them make you look bad. Be capable of dating someone and be your own self. Again,this is not because of his looks or because he isn't rich enough, the reason why so many fans (and probably other people in her life tbh) hate this, is because of her actions that he admitted he purposely "influenced". And then looking at footage from the party, he invites his friends who get drunk and run around her house when its obvious they aren't supposed to. He just brings alot of shit but the scary part is he is manipulator, I don't remember who said it first, but I agree with what someone said the scary part about this was. They said the scary part is that he doesn't seem like a person thats just gonna let her go, even if she did wanted that. I think thats why he is in miami now, to get her to stop being so upset by him. Tell her things she wants to hear for the time being so that he could get on her good side. So that she can start talking about him like he is god again, so that people won't think they are broken up (which should not matter unless he wants to get attention from being with her). I already stated how he could cost her career and reputation. But the main reason why is she is changing because of him. You can tell alot of her actions are done with him in mind. Turning her back on subjects she defended. Not being the person that made people fans of her. Avoiding social media when he is around or maybe because she is upset with her fans for not liking him....All for a guy she hasn't known long and who causes alot of drama. It would be off putting for bystanders if adriana stays with him despite all of this. Despite whatever he did that made their erase photos first on her IG, despite her having to "drink away her sorrows" because of him. Despite him and his family talking to turkish press and doing things that will allow them to gain attention from her.... If she stays with him after all this, and even after his behavior on social media and attention seeking behavior to the press, his family giving old pictures just to prove he is still dating her, if she stays with him after that, that reflects badly on her. She is allowing toxicity to be in her life. She is allowing herself to be used and she is too grown and been through too much already to make that kind of mistake again. This is coming from someone, you all know is a big fan of her. I didn't even dislike metin at the start, I even used to defend him sometime. However, he has shown some true colors and he isn't coming off as genuine and he gave himself credit for who adriana has been lately by liking this: As far as Adriana goes, I can't be such a fan of somebody when I feel like I may not know who they are anymore or what they stand for now or who allows something like this in their life for so long. I think thats how alot of fans are. And metin has literally taken credit for her changing, so ofcourse her fans are just gonna hate him now. I hope somehow Adriana understands this. Her fans are just concerned and from what we see we have a right to be. We don't want her manipulated nor used. But we can't be such big fans and care so much, if she allows herself to be manipulated and used. This guy and his family have been using strategies, doing/saying things on social media, (and in his case, at her party) to get attention from his relationship of Adriana every since those silly separation rumors. Everybody knows thats someone related to him, who commented here: If metin hasn't been liking comments about how lucky Adriana is to have him, then he is liking comments that talk shit about the turkish press. So he knows how they are. The same for his mom, they were literally giving old pics of Adriana and them to the turkish press because of the seperation rumors. Metin and his mom knows how the turkish press are. So there is no doubt in my mind that they KNEW this would happen

Nobody else thinks its wrong that metin and his family are obviously starting rumors that Adriana is engaged to him and she has only known him for six months?

He KNOWS what he was doing, doing this. Its bad enough he did that infront of her children. If Adriana continues to be with this guy, hell yeah she is going to lose alot. more than just fans. Because its just not right. He is doing all of these things that aren't good.

This is the second time he has a role in fueling engagement rumors. Lets see if threatens to sue the press over THAT.

^ I feel that right now lol