Souled-Out

Or because its less drama. If she made an actual post about it, people just would @ adriana and be like "is she talking about you?" and all that. Its done in a way where its more discreet and less room for drama, not as many people are going to see that from her account (because not many fans follow her). That just shows how tasteful and honestly nice Tamera is being about it. And shows much she genuinely cares and is concerned. She could have just posted it to her profile and let everybody tear Adriana up in the comments but she didn't do that.

Yeah, I don't think Tamera reads her. Not alot of people in her personal life do. There is no reason to really. We all know why METIN comes here. But its basically been people who work for her coming here to get material and news that relates to her, quicker. Tamera don't gotta worry about that. We know why metin does, as always looking to see how much attention he has generated from her. If Adriana unfollows Tamera, thats it. Thats all the confirmation I need that Adriana isn't the strong, understanding, nor admirable person we thought she was and that she officially lets metin take over everything about herself and her life. And that she isn't grateful for the friends/family and fans that are worried about her. And she isn't grateful for alot of things. If Adriana unfollows Tamera just because of her post that comes out of concern and hurt (much like her fans), that shows, she really isn't who she used to be or who we thought she was. She isn't as kind hearted and she doesn't appreciate people looking out for her. She would rather be changed by a man she has only known for six months and his book, than taking time alone and making careful choices in her life. She would rather lose everything and everbody else than lose metin. Even though everything else has been around for much longer than metin

I don't think it was a while back. If it was back then, Tamera would have said it back then. Tamera ends up saying it when she visits Miami and she hasn't been in miami for awhile and Adriana's changing behavior is more recent too. So, I would say it was recent esp since, Adriana didn't unfollow her.

No, I don't think so. Not many people in her life did. None of her boyfriends seemed to. Metin ofcourse, is the first and only person in her life who seemed to read this forum, like the sneaky person he is. (only her agent/pr read it,only because they NEED to be on here for things). Tamera never showed evidence of reading and I doubt she did, it has nothing to do with her. Its just a coincidence that she ended up saying the same thing as everyone else. It shouldn't be surprising though, what we are all saying is actually true. We have eyes that aren't blinded by him, he isn't talking with us so he can't manipulate us. So everybody is going to see what the manipulator is doing except for the person who is being manipulated themselves. But if Adriana ever see's what Tamera posted, she can't claim ignorance or even being tricked anymore, because more than just her fans are warning her. People in her life, are literally doing it now. That says something.

The only reason why I didn't lose my admiration for her because I knew where she comes from. And how her life has been and how easy it is for someone like metin to come in and change her, piece by piece, to the point where she doesn't realize its happening. I know somebody who has been through alot and vulnerable enough is subjected to someone like metin taking advantage of her. But NOW, at this point she should see it. Because everybody is talking about it and everybody else sees it. Metin liking that comment said it all. He ONLY deleted it, when we posted it here and mentioned he liked it and how wrong that was of him. That shows how fake he is, deleting a commenting after he gets called out for being wrong about it. Now he is only liking comments thats in HIS language because none of us know what kind of comments he is liking, not even Adriana. See how sneaky he is? Anyway, Also, Metin himself clearly has upset her before, so she has experienced him do unpleasant things to HER, with her own eyes. So, now that all of this is coming to light, she is aware. And its up to her on how she will deal with it. I can't feel sorry for her anymore after that. Because she should know better. 1.She can either continue to be somebody she never was just because of a man she is only known for six months and a book. Risking being known as an ungrateful hypocrite, who doesn't appreciate what the industry has done for her and who doesn't appreciate her friends nor fans, friends and fans who are constantly trying to look out for her and only want the best of her and for her to be her natural self. Or 2.She could be the strong woman she claimed to be and not let a man change and manipulate her and mold her into the way that HE wants. To no longer be fooled and used by him. He was doing alot of attention seeking things on social media, as well as his family. She could free herself from that and free herself from the constant drama and negativity. Choose to work on herself and get better ON HER OWN, like a real strong woman. And be her OWN person, not a puppet. And not let this man mess up her friendships as well as everything else in her life he has impacted. What person, smart or not. Just lets a guy come in after just six months and turn you against soo much? Thats just mindblowing. It hasn't even been a year and he has been given this much power and control? This is scary

Same way with her fans. Sometimes I feel like Adriana hasn't posted a thing on her social media, but did that other account, not even wishing people a happy new year to them, is because its clear alot of fans don't like metin for her neither. I mean she'd rather post something on an account with just four followers (metin being one of them) than an account with 11.6 million, and alot of them are her fans. And I think everybody can see that none of her fans like him because he is just taking away the person we became fans of. Maybe metin has convinced her to also have that "us against the world" mentality. Just brush off everything and everybody who are honestly just concerned for her. IF Adriana is gonna be like that. She doesn't deserve friends like tamera who are trying to look out for her. and she doesn't deserve the fans that she has had neither. Literally all of us, her friends and most of her fans, have been there for her for much longer than metin. Thats why everybody knows something isn't right because they have known her for long personally, and we (the fans/media) have known about her for long. Tamera and others were there to help her get through things and maintain a good time and happiness. Her fans try to defend her so much, sure she doesn't ask for that, but her fans also has contributed to her success by buying what she had to sell, and her being favorite among people is what allows her to keep getting jobs. She got a wax figure because of her fans. But if all she is going to do is say fuck all those people just because they don't like that a man is trying to change her on PURPOSE. Then she doesn't deserve any of those friends nor fans to care and do what they have done for her. Adriana is coming off as ungrateful towards everything and everybody EXCEPT for metin. I mean, she literally SAID she was grateful for him on an IG post. Thats why her PR team had to hurry up and release a statement about her not leaving VS and in the statement she had to mention she was grateful for VS, because of her IG post that he literally admitted HE influenced, because people thought she was shaming VS and was coming off as ungrateful to an industry that helped her alot and kept her from being poor again. Every since she started dating him, he seems to be the only thing she cares about and is grateful for (besides her kids). Its literally like fuck everything else and every body. And that hurts to see. Because all of these friends/family, and companies and fans have invested alot of actual positivity for her and only wanted the best for her. Now, all of a sudden it seems she doesn't even care anymore because of a guy who she only known for 6 months and a book. I can't continue to support somebody like that. And if Adriana doesn't react rightfully and maturely about this, I will not support her anymore. And I know I won't be the only one. Alot of people won't support her anymore once this gets out because its not right and Karma is real. She used to block fans who express concerned about joe with her because of how physically held her in public, and look how that ended. She needs to check herself before she wrecks herself. Don't push away people for seeing what you fail to see first.

And the worst part is metin literally KNOWS he is doing all of this. Its been his intention from the start. First he caused trouble with her career by influencing her to make that post about taking off clothes. Then that engagement photo he wanted her to do, that her kids could have saw, and thats not good fro them. Remember whatever he did to make her "drink her sorrows". Now he is causing more PERSONAL problems in her life. All he has done is cause trouble. When will Adriana put an end to it?? What more damage does metin have to do for her to understand?

Finally someone who actually KNOWS her says it. See, you don't even have to be a fan to understand and see this. You can be her friend and still see what we see and literally say what we have all said. Like we all said here, The RIGHT person for you, would not require you to censor, edit, dilute or change yourself. That means that they don't really love you for you. They only love what they can CHANGE you into. Thats not somebody you should waste your time with and its surely not somebody you should be with. Be with someone who takes you as you are, not somebody thats gonna change you. Thats NOT love. And its NOT finding yourself. Thats losing your self. Thats manipulation and its brainwash and metin has already confirmed that was his goal: damn adriana if you won't take fans or "Strangers" seriously about metin's intentions, atleast take somebody who is your friend seriously. And I hope she doesn't get angry about this, its the truth and she needs to hear it from someone she KNOWS. And Tamera has known Adriana wayy longer than metin. Metin is not worth burning bridges. ANYBODY that admits he is trying to change you is not worth ruining friendships and your LIFE over. She has had her life and been friends with these people way longer than she has known metin. If Adriana still chooses him over her friends, her career, and everything else, she needs more than a therapist. I am sorry but if she lets this continue and let him change everything in her life (her friendships, her career, her reputation), she needs more than therapy, she needs a straitjacket. Because if she lets this go on, it means she has lost more than herself, she has lost her mind. I pray to god this makes her see the light and she takes what Tamera said with heart and she finally realize that WE her fans and her friends, are only trying to look out for her. If she STILL refuses to see that, maybe she doesn't deserve people to care so much about her. Be mature for once Adriana and understand that people aren't just being mean about metin, they really are concerned and are upset because he is taking away the person who we genuinely liked and loved. Unlike him, WE have accepted her for who she has always been. But people aren't going to continue to defend and worry about a person who is now a product of influence and brainwash by ANOTHER person.

Or that we are "racist". Or we don't know just because we are fans. NO, we know Adriana. We know when something isn't right between her and these dudes. We always have been spot on about how not good they are.

Here is the original tweet it comes from. And look, its based off of that pose he did at her party This person obviously doesn't dislike Adriana but they also aren't big fans like us and even they can see what he is really about

I agree, its not a coincidence. But atleast when lais got her FB, that was the most amount of likes the VS account ever got for a fb picture.

Personally I am worried and angry. Angry because she let somebody like him draw her into this despite him clearly upsetting her more than once and she has only known him six months. She could have been free of it if she actually acted on the other times he screwed up.And I feel like by now, she has to be aware of all the shady things he has done, and how him and his family has used strategies to create a false truth about her relationship with him and to get attention from it. But It seems she still plans to be with him. I am angry at her for having the opportunities to release his hold from her and she doesn't seem to have done it. Instead she seems to still go out her way for him (posting on a private account that he is allowed to follow, since he hasn't followed her on her public ig account). She still brought her kids around him, she shouldn't because she doesn't know how long he will stick around and its gonna be confusing for them. Plus she hasn't even known him a year yet. So I am angry at her for all of that, because Adriana herself has already gotten upset with him more than ONCE. I don't want to be worried for her because like I said, you can't be worried FOR someone who isn't even worried about themselves although they should be. You just can't help to be worried because we see what he is really about. Even though Adriana isn't being smart about how she handles him, we still know she has a good heart and she is vulnerable. IDK about the head she has on her shoulders sometimes lol but we know she is kind hearted. And people who are manipulative like him and calculated like him will take advantage of that. Everybody here sees it. Literally everybody sees it, even the media did.. And sometimes, I feel Adriana is mad at the world for that. But it is what it is, if he has done shady shit, he has done shady shit. She should be mad at him for constantly coming off so shady and she should act on that. And I agree, that person I think knew him. Its like Joe all over again. We see horrible signs from his actions. And someone who also knew joe , got on youtube video about adriana, saying she shouldn't be with him and they had linked his mugshot picture and mentioned he had a bad past. Adriana ended up having an awful break up with him and it looks like he still stalks her on social media Instead of constantly giving a guy chances and bringing him around her kids, she needs to distance herself. For once, stop waiting until things get horrible before letting the bf go.

No but she has nice looks and not awful at selfie taking so, boom on her social media success. I do agree on what you said about her work.

I think lily is a good person.

'Ya'll don't realize you have this discussion every week? Lol. Is it really that surprising? She has a really pretty face, she is working more than Sara and Alessandra (in terms of modelling), I THINK, I could be wrong because I am not an expert on Sara's career. But yeah, she can take good selfies with that special filter she uses and she has imo a better look than Sara and Alessandra. Alessandra, is just older and from a different era and has officially retired from VS. She doesn't have a famous partner, I suspect her social media count is going to start slowing. Taylor is on the opposite end of her career now.

Which isn't right nor true because the difference between metin and an actual therapist is, 1. The therapist is certified and has an actual office and all that. The way metin travels and stuff, he obviously doesn't have that, atleast not a real office. 2. They aren't looking to seek any benefit from being with her. They aren't there for no relationship. They aren't there to be with her intimately. They actually aren't there to change her, literally JUST to help her. They don't WANT anything from her, it truly is their job to allow for her to be stable, get better, and to just help her. No manipulating nor using her is needed because they aren't trying to be her partner or anything like that. But like you said there is a complex with Adriana herself that keeps her from simply seeking professional help and therapy and its because there is hole that she thinks a man must fill. Also, the people in her life obviously avoid even suggesting good things like this to her. ...She has YET to try to get better without dating someone at the same time. And she still has not realized that maybe this dating shit is the root of it all. Maybe that is the problem: Quickly trusting someone inside of your life and allowing them to change you and just create a PUPPET out of you, is going to fuck with your life too Adriana. She can't be serious about finding herself again and all that, if she still allowing new people to come in and out of her life and invade her privacy . Through out all of this the only thing that has been constant in her life besides her kids, is the fact that she is dating. The boyfriends change, the friends change, the ways she tries to heal and "find herself" change. But in the end the result is always the same, it gets bad, she gets hurt. But What else is always the same? She isn't single through out the entire process and the reason why she is hurt is because of the man she was with. Maybe she should actually try being single while finding herself (because she has not been found), like soph said its like 3 years of this, the only thing that hasn't changed is that she has some man by her side. When will she start looking at them and start considering the consequences and the bad things they have already done before letting it get bad? I feel like metin has done enough for her to start considering, she was drinking her sorrows while on vacation two weeks ago! Its a cycle. And this cycle will never break if she refuses to realize this or if someone else in her life won't tell her to realize it. But as you and soph and nhlovesadri have implied, its like beating a dead horse. We have continued to beat it because its just so crazy but also because we care about her and worried about her. As painful as it is, we just have to stop worrying about someone who doesn't seem to be worried about themselves or whats going on with them, even though they should. Prayers the only thing we can give her at this point

Sadly agree 100%. I'll still pray for her and her family though.

Yeah but 1. I didn't think it was a conscious decision. 2. This was before someone found out about that account. She is making a choice to post on one account and not the other, thats something new to all of us. I thought like a normal person, she would be too distracted or busy to think about posting something. Not purposely avoiding it. Maybe the post did have to do with metin, and if thats the case, thats good and bad. Good for us, because we don't want to see that shit. Still bad because that means she still gives him too much power that he just doesn't deserve. She has to use a whole other account just to still post about him and she doesn't want to post on her public profile right now unless it is about him? Like when in China, she wouldn't post ANYTHING unless it had to do with metin or quoting him, despite a huge fashion show that she loves happening The photocall day, everybody wondering where Adriana was and if she was still there. Instead of posting herself or anybody during the press day and photocall, she posted some old picture of herself quoting him I am over Metin's manipulative, sneaky and controlling ways. But its a slower process to get over how Adriana let it take over her life, especially in a short amount of time. Its crazy how she knows she has lost herself, but she probably think she found herself through him. When really she is creating this new person of herself. Thats not finding yourself, she hasn't found herself, she is turning into someone else. The old her is def not who she is now, and is still somewhere out there. And watch metin is praying that she never finds that strong, ,hard working, independent and admirable woman again.

Yeah, no post to 11.6 million followers but a post to just 4 followers? This is ASSUMING the 6th post came after new years. Thats why I am like, is she purposely not posting anything on her public account. For WHATEVER reason. Is she mad that its obvious that alot of her fans and people in GENERAL don't like him for her or something? They only don't because he is shady and they are scared for her. I would normally not think that low of Adriana and would hope she understood concerns, if this was two years ago I wouldn't even think this. But lately she is so hard to understand, as well as to like. We don't understand what she is about anymore. Like I said, we all know why that is now. Adriana is constantly a reflection of who she dates. Isn't it funny how people don't understand her lately, and at the same time, she is dating somebody who seems like lunatic to everyone else. IDK if SHE made him stop posting. Its obvious he reads here, maybe he stopped because we stated how obvious he was being posting Adriana, when she isn't looking and stuff just to prove that he is with her. You know his sneaky self always stops doing something after WE call out how it looks bad. Maybe I was wrong, and Adriana really does chooses to not use her public account when around her bf. Which is just fucking strange, she can't keep herself from quoting him or something? So she just gonna stop posting all together? Of course her team, sits back and does nothing. And yeah, her mom doesn't follow. I know Adrielle is one of the followers. Don't know the others who do. Don't really care. Its usual for a celeb to have an account on social media thats not public. I don't follow her, so I don't know when she made that new post, I remember if she still had 5 posts before the new year. But if the 6th post was made after new years and she only got four followers on it and nothing is updated for her account with 11.6 million.. This is me: Actually that gif has been me since November. If you just look at Adriana's actions from the start of November last year, you would be like WTF to alot of the things she has done and said. The only time she came back normal was when the show aired, when she was in dubai, when she came back from dubai, and during christmas. Metin was missing during all of those times. She was very strange in China too and metin wasn't around, BUT she also wasn't upset at metin during that time.

Acting isn't something everyone can be very successful at, especially not models. Tyra has done the most acting out of all VS models ever and she has never gotten that far with it nor did it stick. I just want to see more modelling work from Adriana this year but I don't know. I feel like she just doesn't care about her career or anything related to it much anymore, she is starting 2018 off badly with it. Not doing anything to help it at all so far. If that a1 account is hers, a post had been added to that very recently,but nothing has been added to her public profile where she has way more than four followers and she hasn't posted not a thing in nearly a week. Why post something for 4 followers but not 11.6 million followers? I mean she was posting more and being normal about her public profile when in Dubai and for christmas, but we know whats the difference between her being in dubai during christmas and what she has going on now

Yeah... Prayers for Adriana indeed because something in the milk isn’t clean. She is risking alot already being involved with him, only for him and his family and friends disrespect her privacy and home and trying to spread false truths about her. You can’t trust people like that and she has too much to lose.

Her eyes are open but she isn't looking at the photographers. What makes this look weird is him and its because his eyes and face is looking directly to the people capturing it. Adriana's face is turned completely. Her eyes are probably because he reached up to kiss her, shown in the picture that @fieldofoptics post

I wish all Adriana saw was him being a boy. She was talking about him like he was god at one point. She def saw him as too much. I do agree that what was driving Adriana to allow him in her presence after all this shit, and to let him manipulate and change her and had her talking about him like he was god at one point, is she feels he did her a favor. She feels like she owes him something but, she should not forget, he is still a human being and he is still a man. All that he has been doing, reminds us all thats what he is. And she needs to look at him that way. So, her fans or whatever don't know him personally like she does, but that doesn't mean she shouldn't be OBJECTIVE when looking at him and his actions. She has been very subjective and biased, thinking since he is closer to her, alot of people are just wrong. When really, we can think this way because we aren't close to him. He isnt trying to trick us. We have no feelings for him so we aren't blinded, at first people like me were ok with him and even used to defend him. But now his actions speak louder than his words. And we aren't going to give him the benefit of the doubt because we have no emotions for him. She is a successful, big, beautiful Top model. People are going to use her. She is also vulnerable, she feel like she lost her soul. People are going to take advantage of her for that too, because she is so successful and beautiful. Metin looks like he is one of those people now. She can be grateful for whatever it is he has done, but that does not mean she owes him. She doesn't have to change her life and ways to revolve around him. It does not mean she has to accept the wrong things he has done to her. It does not mean it is ok for him to like comments that praise him and only giving HIM credit for who she is right now and that imply adriana wasn't a modest person before. I don't care what he has supposedly had done for her, enough is enough. She is being used and manipulated and its not worth that because he is just a human being and a human being she only met six months ago. She can be grateful without tolerating disrespect and being used.

Quoting myself because after all of this, he is currently fishing into his comments, liking stuff again. Why does he always do that after a stunt is pulled? Its like the first thing he does is go on there to see how much attention and "fans" he gained from it. I don't like talking about older people neither, but his mom is showing behavior just as sneaky and conniving as him. Not only did she make that comment under photos knowing that people would notice. But she is talking to fans via direct messages about adriana and metin, and she not bothering to deny the rumors her and metin clearly started. WHO does that?? This is crazy. They all have the same agenda towards Adriana. And she has being seen as this object that they want to possess. Even going as far as to create lies about her and him , so that the press can pick up on it

Trying to have a good time and find herself too, he knows it and yes he has been plotting, while knowing All adriana wants is for her life to get better. He used that to try to change her and now to gain attention from her. About that picture, the picture after it shows that weird kiss, it is infamously weird. And you know why the kiss looks wierd? Because as Adriana is kissing him, his eyes are open and now looking directly at the photographers. Look at his eye, look at how his face isn't even turned towards her fully, because he is looking at people who are capturing it