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Yeah Taylor seems major pissed off. She still looked amazing at the show though. Although calling Sara disgusting didn't seem that shady to me. I say far worse and serious things to my friends like that lol.

VS have been pairing Adriana and Lais a lot the last few weeks. Most stuff I've seen of Lais has been with her and Adriana. Do you think VS is testing the waters with them as a duo for Lais to take Alessandra's spot? Like the Brazilian duo and also Lais has been there for a while now. So even though she's one of the newer angels she's more of a veteran. I think they're a pairing that works great together. They seem to be good friends and there's an energy I think Adriana is bringing out of Lais. I hope we see more of Lais now.

No she was def the standout of that ad. My sig is proof of that lol. Also not sure if anyone here had posted their fav looks of the show. We do it every year. Here are mine. I actually had quite a few. Secret and Dark had most of my fav looks. And yes I am one of the few that loved the Secret Angel look Adriana wore. I think it's just the way she wore it. But the belt gives her a curve that she doesn't usually have because Adriana is quite straight up and down. I think it was the right choice for her and really don't know why there was a big OMG at the outfit. It's lingerie with a belt and some wings. So these are all my fav looks from the show. I think my absolute fav is the Lais Dark Angel look.

$10 Candice and Behati will be mentioned in the show somehow. I don't really see the whole Lily looks old thing. Because Adriana and Alessandra look older but they still are doing great and I think Lily is too. I want Lily to be around another year. I just love her as an angel. Take away her questionable walk which is better then before but she is really a package. Her body is great, face stunning, lovely personality, great and likable spokesmodel. She's always had it all for me. I don't want her to be there forever like Adriana and Alessandra but I wanna see her stick around just a year longer. Although she's fulfilled everything she ever will as an angel.

@Polqu I agree about the lingerie thing. That's part of the reason why it's just not up to par anymore. 2011 on is when they started to really focus on their lingerie and adding on all extras and they started doing the whole shop the runway thing. I get it. They're a brand and they want to sell the lingerie. They make the individual pieces and then just pick lingerie to go with it. Most of the time the lingerie doesn't fit the look of the pieces and that's why it looks messy.

http://vspressroom.com/victorias-secret-fashion-show/runway-2016/ VS Press Room have the full lineup and HQ images of each girl for the show up.

I don't think VS are doing the live pre show thing they usually do. It would be announced by now and there's only 2 days til the show.

Irina better get a good edit with the good press her pregnancy is getting the show.

@Prettyphile YAS!!! I love his music. VS would never use it. There was a time they might've like in 2003 when they used Peaches AA XXX. But they're lame now.

While it's not German rock there's this song that I've always liked from a German electro guy named Faderhead. It's strong, dirty and VS will never use it lol.

For all those loving @Prettyphile set. Guess who's her go to for that?? *points to self proudly*

@Prettyphile sign me up for a Marilyn Manson song on the runway. Even one of his remakes so it's a bit more mainstream. Like sweet dreams or tainted love. Third day of a seven day binge would be amazing but it's VS so that won't happen.

Lais and Adriana killed the lip sync. Also very glad I'm seeing a lot of Lais suddenly. I'm still thinking they're using girls in groups and might start using Lais, Romee, Sara, Martha and Stella a bit more but we will see. Lais and Adriana are quite a pairing. VS have been using them together a lot lately. Based off of Adriana's appearance, her social posts, everything backstage she seems very very happy. She's becoming close with all the girls. She's taking photos with them. She commented to Gigi on the photo Gigi put up of them. Last year it seemed like she had it with VS. She wasn't happy with the new girls around. This year she is loving it and it showed on the runway. I mean from the videos it's the best she's been at a VS in many years. Wonder what changed for her? I still hope they keep the same girls next year. I think it's a good group of girls and they all have something special and unique about them. If there's anyone I would say should go it would be Alessandra because she seems like the only one who looks done with it all. I love Lily and hope she is still around. I wanna see an ad next year of just her Behati and Candice. That making of video pissed me off. I thought that going to Paris was something VS decided only this year. But they were thinking about it last year and they had Paris in mind for that long and still chose the themes they chose? I still can't believe they did nothing French themed. They could've gone with so many incredible ideas. Cabaret, Burlesque, Marie Antoinette. The commercial had so many great looks that would have worked for the show. I like Bella. I don't get why people are saying she is bad. Everyone always complains they don't want the girls to be kissing and overdoing it on the runway and then comes a girl who does exactly that and now she isn't good. LOL logic people.

Its daily mail spitting out trash like they usually do.

Yeah @toodarnhot it's hard to tell for example Karlie was only an Angel for 2 years. So she might have only signed a 2 year contract compared to the ussual 3. So Elsa might not have even signed a 3 year one. It seems that they might be signing girls year to year now. So for all we know the contracts will be up again beginning of next year. Elsa signed before the 2014 show. If she only signed 1-2 years she might have already started her new contract. Every other girl signed their contracts around February last year. Clearly they were only 1 year as after that contract ended VS dropped Jac and Kate resigned all the other girls and signed Josephine. So around Feb next year we will know the outcome.

It's going to be interesting at the beginning of the year because that's when all the contracts are up. And also Adriana, Alessandra and Lily i'm pretty sure are on a year to year basis thing now. Candice and Elsa are they the only ones safe based on contract? Didn't Candice resign last year? And Elsa signed before the 2014 show.

Who the hell was prompting the girls? They were all so close to walking into each other at the end of the runway. Which taping was that I wonder? I hope it isn't overly edited also but I do wanna see some shots of the actual walks. That's as just from the final pose of the runway mainly.

I think they changed it because Jasmine should've been up front then Lily. Nothing to do with attitudes or what not. Her and Alessandra have always been fine together. Might just be reading into things.

The thing is it probably is a complete new design just Atwood has no creativity and it's the same look lmfao. @RaffyPooh Todd Thomas wasn't like out there amazing. Of course there was questionable looks when he was designer but the segments all had a flow to them. He took the ideas and made he outfits all fit together. But you look at SA and DA and it all flows as if it's one big segment. Even TRA and MR had similar looks. It's a styling issue too of course. I want them to get a new designer who's involved with the whole process like Todd was.

So who's the actual collection designer? Do they even have one? Because this to me is part of the problem. It seems like different people just come up with things and they just throw it all together. Mixing and matching stuff constantly. You can tell that they get all these different people to make different elements and then when it comes time they just throw it all on with some VS lingerie. That's where Sophia ruins it with horrible styling. And seriously no more tacky Brian Atwood shoes. They need one person who will design the entire collection like Todd Thomas used to do. And then hire the artisans who will make the different elements. Just like they used to. And do VS not use jewelry anymore?

http://joshwongphotography.com/blog/the-victorias-secret-fashion-show-at-the-grand-palais-paris-france-2016/ He as the full fashion show gallery and behind the scenes shots too. Love his work each year.

Lily's contract should be coming up to finishing so there's a big chance she will go. I really love Lily as an Angel. She's a fantastic spokesmodel and her walk has gotten better. She kills catalog and commercial work. But much like Adriana she's only been used this past year for bigger stuff. Alessandra every year people say she's going but I never thought it. But this is the first time that I think after this show she will be done. It seems ready for her to finish. As for the rest I'm really not sure with VS. I would say Martha, Romee, Sara, Lais might go but then again who knows. They went from using Lais in everything to her not featuring much at all. Sara is just used for beauty mainly and Martha/Romee white wall stuff.

I don't think it's the holiday commercial but a short film similar to the one they released before A Private Affair. This one is called A Night at the Opera.