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I'm sorry but Maroon 5 are far from irrelevant, they literally have the #1 song in America and their last singles have performed well too, they may even headline the SB next year so calling them irrelevant is a stretch. Do I want them to perform? No. Do I think they are the best option for this year? Hell no, but they are far from irrelevant. Also Ariana ain't performing next to Cardi B, she's Team Nicki

I don't think it takes much to realize VS ain't what it used to be, the paychecks are not as great as they used to and the brand is not selling as well as it used to getting a VS contract used to be THE goal for most of models, especially for those in the more commercial side of the industry, back when it was millions of dollars and all kinds of good press. Now it's nowhere near the millions of dollars, the show ain't getting ratings like it used to and the brand constantly faces backlash for all kinds of shit all the time. Also Behati ain't 18 anymore, she doesn't even live in NYC and I can see her not thinking VS is worth her time anymore. Not saying she and VS will have a bitter, bad, awful break up like it happened with Erin, but I can't blame her for wanting to abandon the sinking ship that VS has become. Considering their current careers, I will be shocked if Taylor and Stella decide to stay with VS tbh, if I was them I would leave as soon as that contract ends.

IT'S JOSEPHINE jk, I wish

I rather see Abel and Bella, mostly because I love Abel and I rather see him than Adam any day

Is Selena even still relevant? Wasted Times is such a good song and the fact that Abel and Bella indeed got back together makes it even better

The last thing I heard was that she was 100% done with VS but she still had one show under contract she had to walk, she was trying to get out of it but VS really wanted her to walk. No idea how it went down. I know there's another Angel who ended her contract and won't be coming back after this year, but Im not sure if VS will announce it now or after the show or if there will be an announcement at all, but it won't come as a shock to anyone tbh. It was a friendly split, no drama between the model and VS.

This is a completely different situation, Jac was doing just fine balancing VS and HF up until she started to have health issues, which I'm pretty sure changed her priorities, she's still working in those issues and she's been open about it. I think Jac was really smart by signing with VS when she did tbh, she had already done every major HF gig and she had built strong connections that she still has which is why she still books covers and shows whenever she decides to do fashion week, I just get the feeling that she's over the whole industry now and would much rather focus on other things. Unlike Chanel who really did get dropped by everyone o.o I agree @Beauty Junky that Jac+Elsa would have been gold for VS as a duo, their work together was always great and they seem to genuinly like each other, they seem to have similar personalities.

Yall truly need to move on from this discussion, it's Candice's choice to share her children's lives and thefore it is okay to post their pictures/videos in this thread as long as whatever it's being posted comes from Candice, her family or her fiancé. It's better to just ignore those posts if you don't like them and hope that Candice has some new work coming out soon.

I actually agree with the comments about her body, she doesn't look good these days in my group of friends who couldn't care less about models and the industry we were talking about how fucked up society beauty standards are these days and one of my friends literally used a picture of Emily to illustrate that. She used to have the perfect body and now she just dropped too much weight.

I'm sure both Gigi and Bella are walking this year, but we won't get any confirmation until their fitting, same with Karlie if she walks again this year. I think Miley may not perform after all? We're only one month away and she hasn't said a single word about dropping new music or anything soon, it wouldn't be the first time an artist that was confirmed suddenly decides not do the show for whatever reason. And I can't see VS having Miley perform without having anything out, she's not that relevant. I can see the lineup being Cardi B, Maroon 5 and someone else tbh, but it's going to make me extremely uncomfortable if they have a Behati + Adam moment tbh, it would be okay if we hadn't had literally the same moment with Anne V already but yiiikes

It's not even nipples, it's female nipples that are the horror that must be hidden and covered because they are obviously evil

Don't quote me on it but I think Jac left VS because she started to develop health issues, which she still struggles with to this day as we know.

I don't see what's wrong with people posting picture of her children? It's just reposting whatever Candice posts in her social media, which some people don't have so this is the place for them to see all things Candice if this was some private pictures that people are actually going out of their way to find then it would be a problem. Is it a bit annoying that baby pictures out-balance Candice's actual work? yes, but it's because Candice herself ain't working nor posting much. I say just ignore the baby pictures and wait until there's new work out Also the Angel pictures are not stolen nor banned from Bellazon, as far as I know we've gotten no request or petition from anyone to remove the few scans we have so far.

So happy that Ming and Sui are shooting! Based on the background I'd say they are shooting Valentine's Day stuff, this is good, if VS was going to add more Angels I'm glad they are adding diversity to their lineup

So happy she's back to redhead! She looks so much better, love it!

I just think Versace that does sexy but still classy best, which is what I expect (or used to) from VS. And every time a VS girl has done VS campaigns they have been great IMO, so I think this would work really well. Another brand I would love to see doing a collab is Carolina Herrera, because it's such a classic and elegant brand, I can see the pieces being something along the lines of what the designer collection used to be, plus we know Carolina wouldn't let VS pull a shit show in her segment I don't think either of these will happen but oh well, a girl can dream

It sucks for sure but I understand why they are over it, they started at 14/15 which is quite young and they both pretty much did everything they could have possibly within the fashion industry, there's no major designer, photographer or brand they didn't work for, by the time they were 20 they had done more with their careers than what a lot of people do in their whole lifetime, so it's not shocking they both decided to move on to different things. Especially in Jac's case when you consider her health issues, I'm guessing that's quite the wake up call I do hope they continue to work as models even if it's less work than what it was back in the day, Frida and Jac are some of the best editorial and beauty models out there.

I agree, I loved his Dior work, but it is true he hasn't done anything else that great and IDK if he'll do any better now in Celine, I personally didn't love the newest collection. I'd love to see Donatella/Versace doing a VS collab, that's the dream but I think these are two brands that would be a match made in heaven,

I do CAMILA FOR LIVE seriously tho, a latin segment with Havana would be fiiiiiire.

Back in the day the SO didn't even exist tho, it became a thing in 2012 I think. SO in 2011 was all about the wings not the outfit itself IIRC, then in 2012 Cameron Russell got the outfit which got a lil press but nothing too big, in 2013 was all about Lindsay E's 3D printed outfit, in 2014 Lily Donaldson got the outfit but it was still not a maaaajor thing, I would say the SO didn't become a canon thing until 2015 when Martha got it and it became a thing, so it's only been three years tbh and I would say that for now and on the SO will be like FB and be one of the big things only the Angels get to wear. It's also worth saying VS has literally a dozen Angels so they need to spread things, I was surprised but happy that Elsa got the 2016 opening and the 2017 SO, which is why I have doubts she'll get another big moment by wearing the FB this year, would be great tho.

HOW DARE YOU? I'm sorry girl but Zayn was clearly and by far the best vocalist in the group! Unless you're talking about post-Zayn 1D, then I agree Liam was the best vocally. I do think Liam's music could be more diverse (see Zayn) but I don't think it's boring, however, his management is a shit show, Familiar is 100% a BOP, a banger and he never promoted it so it obviously didn't perform as well as it should have #familiardeservedbetter

Okay we're not friends anymore, werk!

I'm here for Mi Gente or whateve J Balvin wants to sing, I love him, can't help it AND it would make sense if Liam also performs because guess what? Also has a duet with J Balvin. It seems very very possible and likely to me that VS would book Cardi B, Liam and J Balvin tbh. They can sing I like it (Cardi + J), Familiar (Liam + J) and then each get a solo song, that would cover all segments and VS I can see VS putting a performer in every segment this year, I can see Liam being the Pink performer since he has the youngest fanbase from these three.

Happy but surprised that Yulia won the whole thing! She's a stunner for sure, I hopes she books SI even tho it seems unlikely under MJ's shit show

Thank god it's just pink, looks messy AF