TheBaronOfFratton

^That's not entirely true - I let a lot of things go! Either way it shouldn't be so easy... ^Oh no, I get the point. Candice made an innocuous comment - that could be construed any number of ways - but it's suddenly been accepted that it was a slap in the face to Adriana and Ale. I'm not defending her as the choice, or what her comment could mean, and I'm completely with you on her fans - but actually neither party are claiming she 'deserved it more than' or 'worked harder than' on this thread at all. What there is is a supposition that there is, and these spurious justifications/retaliations as to why Adriana and Ale are better which have nothing to do with it - and I don't think that should just be left unchecked. Plus, latterly, "shady" responses have actually been made but they're all perfectly alright because they're by - well - guess who...

^What the hell has that got to do with it??? I NEVER said Candice works harder - you've said Adriana and Ale do. They are not doing that by the above statements. I've already acquiesced to them (Adriana at least) being more popular, but that's not the same thing... As for the pregnancy statement, unless you're saying that they were having kids for VS's sake then I don't get your point. That's a lifestyle choice, they're older and (probably) have a bigger and better portfolio to rest their laurels upon. It's not working harder - it's just tougher for them. And - for the umpteenth time - I don't "hate" Adriana. I just don't understand why everything is justified for her and demonised for everybody else. These arguments get more and more convoluted and ridiculous. I even think that the nutcases in Barbara Palvin's thread are just Limanati ringers, trying to draw attention away from the fact that the Lima fans are just as barmy as ever!

^No, apparently Adriana and Alessandra work harder - and make "sacrifices". So unless Candice wants to offer her first-born to the company then I'm just not accepting her having any presence on this year's show.

^What bullshit are you two peddling now?!?! Are you saying that in order to have any merit with the company at all that Candice has to outdo Adriana and Ale in some ludicrous game of one-upmanship that you've now deemed as necessary - and therefore has to knock out a couple of kids as dangerously close as possible (before or after) to the VSFS in order to "justify" wearing the fantasy bra? If you want to hear that Adriana is more popular than Candice then so be it: She is. You've won. But don't bother us with such fallacies to suit your latest complaints when it's patently clear that, whether you like her or not, Candice works a hell of a lot all year round for VS.

Ugh, so many gifs... ^Actually, I did answer you on that particular question here: http://www.bellazon.com/main/topic/48583-victorias-secret-fashion-show-2013-general-discussion/?p=3271494 - although I moved it to that other (VSFS sub-forum) section. There seems to be the same conversations in two places at the moment!

^After Big Chief Karlie, Emanuela - Queen Of The Jungle, and the 'Sexy Little Geisha' Hallowe'en costume, I'm not so sure VS is that hot on cultural sensitivity! ^Oh no - don't go bringing religion into this too! Besides, that's not mutually exclusive...

^I guess then you mean other than Lily Aldridge whose father is British? Mind you, by your rationale Karlie, Erin, Behati and Lindsay are just as eligible - all hailing from 'colonies'.

Wow, so there really will be a British Invasion section. Its been a really big year for the Brit royal family with the baby and all plus with the success of their British fashion models. Nice. I don't think the British Invasion section will open unless they decide to open with the fantasy Bra like they did in 2005. B/c the Royal Bra will def be included in that section. ^Although these posts were on the 'Official' thread - it makes much more sense to discuss them here... That third picture is actually from the 'British Invasion' section. The design is clearly based upon the London 'Pearly Kings and Queens' - who are charitable groups that dress in black clothes adorned with mother-of-pearl buttons to stand out. Here: I suspect, even though - of course - there are plenty of other Royal families across the world, the 'Royal Bra' title will mean it's also part of this section... With that in mind, here's how I see it playing out. To begin with - music. Surely, nothing conveys what they're going for more than a cheeky cockney knees-up round the old joanna. So play this Chas&Dave number whilst you imagine: Then, of course to open - that age-old British cliche: the chimney sweep. Oh, I could only hope that Tyra and Heidi could come back, if only to hear their hilarious mangled British accent that they couldn't help but attempt: "Gawd bless you, Mary Poppins!" Naturally, next to carry on that hackneyed image of the UK, some ladies serving tea. Again, I lament the passing (in VS terms) of KK or Jessica Stam - they'd definitely be shoe-ins to be dressed up ridiculously as a crumpet... And don't tell me they won't pass up the opportunity to dust off a variation of this hoary old outfit: Next, out comes the bra - in the middle with no fanfare (naturally): When what should represent the British Royalty is a succession of hideous pastel-shaded frock coat/cocktail dress, with matching hat, worn by some miserable looking models: And just because VS can't help themselves from being too literal: Then, at the end, Ed Razek comes on dressed as Benny Hill (who, coincidentally, also called his coterie of girls "Angels"), pulls down someone's outfit and then gets chased around the catwalk by everybody to a rousing saxophone solo. Enjoy: Fin.

She was born that way, deal with it!! No more blasphemy! P.S. Do I smell a new spurious response?? :brows: ^Already done: http://www.bellazon.com/main/topic/27151-the-totally-spurious-victorias-secret-thread/?p=3271265 ^Yay! My recent VS favourites:

As we all know, Candice has a stoopid big posy mouth that she can't keep shut - not like Adriana's which can't be helped and if you mention it I'm reporting you for bullying: IT'S GENETIC, ALRIGHT?! :persuazn: So, we thought that stoopid big posy mouth should be put to good use when it's not being stoopid and big and posy in 99.9% of her VS shots and runway walks... So, ROLL UP, ROLL UP, for the breakaway fairground success: WILL IT FIT IN? COME ON, TAKE YOUR PICK: WHAT WILL YOU CHOOSE: The Banana - For comedy effect! The Skinny Behati - Just how skinny is she? The Watermelon - Big gamble for big rewards...

^'Irrational' - no. What I'm pointing out is this tendency to excuse any perceived character flaw or negative trait when it comes to Adriana and then make it perfectly legitimate, yet demonise any other model who may share it... But I sure do like getting pwned by a gif.

^Really?!?! <_< Yes, I think you are biased... That said, Candice's mum is always finger licking (well, she does work for KFC) and twirling her hair - so that's perfectly legit because it's inherited too. I take it all back.

^Thank goodness eh?! Personally I quite like having choice. ^I'm sorry, I appear to have missed that coronation... <_<

Yet more VS, stop me if this is boring you...

^Beautiful... As ever, new VS:

Before it needs redoing... New VS:

Never fear - it's gone to a better place... ...And maybe they'll make a shrine or something ( ) so nut-jobs have somewhere to go and get this nonsense out of their system.

New VS (again): + This flyer pic:

^I didn't say you did. You just asked the question and so I answered it from my point of view - I thought that was the point?

I don't understand why Barbara Palvin isn't the face of Kylie Bisutti's God Inspired fashion line??? Barbara looks heavenly.......Just breathtakingly beautiful............I am speechless.........She has THE most beautiful face I have ever seen........... Now she is looking BY FAR the best she has ever looked........EVER..........Now I really want her to play an important part in this God Inspired fashion line (photoshoots and commercials) as well.......Please God let it be her face in the grainy instagram photo of the behind the scenes of the upcoming line......... Hmmm.......Barbara arrived in London today and apparently fans and well-wishers were waiting for hours on end to greet her at the airport.......I think that is pretty amazing.......She has a HUGE fanbase.......SO many models and celebs would kill for that kind of adulation..........SHe had no idea how lucky she is.........Kylie Bisutti should SO use her for the campaign with that kind of fanbase.......God should tell her and it would all sell out in seconds...... There were lots of comments about how Barbara should be the face of the line.......And the comments were all about Barbara........She should SO be the face of the line...... Here are the comments that are about Barbara........They are all about her......... Barbara Palvin is sexier than Jesus. She should be the face of the line and Victoria's Secret and every other fashion line in the world - Brandon Spatchcock, Basement, USA, 30/9/13 She looks great in the clothes. Even though I haven't seen her in them yet. - Dilbert Gob, Somewhere, 30/9/13 Why isn't Barbs my mother and my wife? - Oedipus, Ancient Greece, 30/9/13 Why is nobody talking about Adriana on here anymore? - Lost Soul I want STATISTICS - dreamss, Bouncing IP address, 1/10/13 Barbara's not been mentioned for TWO COMMENTS now. This is ridiculous. - Johnny Fudgecake, Another Basement, USA, 01/10/13 They should clone Barbara, then she could do everything all the time and everyone will be happy! - Billy NoMates, Alone, UK, 1/10/13 I thought we were talking about God and Jesus and stuff like that on the VS thread, obviously..? - J.H.Christ, Everywhere, 1/10/13 And my book and fashion line. And how VS fooled me into walking around in my knick-knacks. Kylie Holier-Than-Thou Bisutti, USA, 1/10/13 It's been two comments AGAIN! - Johnny Fudgecake, Another Basement, USA, 1/10/13 Barbara is THE BEST!!!!!!!! - Inane Commentator 245, Dullsville, 1/10/13 BARBRABABBABABARRRRR - Another Inane Commentator, Kid's Bedroom, Mexico, 1/10/13 Barbara etc.... - More Inane Commentators, Can't be bothered to make up name or place, 1/10/13

^Well, I was using 'everyone' in an 'Everyone loves Adriana and she's Everyone's favourite' way - it was meant as a piece of flippancy! In my attempt to be wry I was trying to point out that Behati's star has never shone brighter for VS - but it is very much a recent thing. That (some, but not everyone - best make that abundantly clear) people are complaining about it already - particularly naming her alongside Candice, who has demonstrably been the the brand's favoured model for a few years now - is just silly. I'm enjoying it as I feel it's long overdue. It won't last, but let us at least have our six months in the sun... I see the comments now on Elsa's page - about being stifled in PINK - and I hope her day will come too. ^As PinkCouture will tell you, I didn't even notice there was nudity in that editorial until it was highlighted in an unforgivable ( ) repost on the previous page! That said, Behati's hardly Kylie Bisutti when it comes to discussing such issues - it's her business. I've seen a few topless and risqué shots before - a couple by Matt Jones actually - so if she's comfortable with the photographer and the nature of the editorial/magazine then I don't see what more needs to be said.

^How bizarre - they just took this 'Body by Victoria' shot, and photoshopped on a tiara and purse?!?! As for looking "cute", to me it looks like they went out of their way to make the edited shot as unlike Behati as they possibly could... ^Yeah, they sure shamed her in last year's show. We've waited years for VS to finally use Behati more - and 5 minutes later everyone's sick of it already!!! ^Well, I won't be doing that! But thanks for the Behati ones... (Y)

^Actually, I'd say this thread should be prerequisite reading for all members. I mean, some people have been trying to pillory Karlie banging on about 'models and fans' over on the other channel (again) - and that stoopid shit's already been dealt with here a couple of pages ago... We could have spared Pretty and pheno their respective headaches! KYLIE'S GOD INSPIRED FASHION - HELL YEAH! "Two thumbs up!" - St. Paul "Kylie's 'God Inspired Fashion' rocks my world!" - The Pope "I hate it!" - Satan