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Wow, if I were Romee, I'd pray these pictures never saw the light of day because she looks annoyed/pissed off/disgusted in these pictures. I'm so glad she learned how to model!

I always thought that most angels (around the 2007 era) had to start in PINK first, but did Stella, Martha or Romee ever shoot for it? I know they never walked for PINK, which shocks me, especially Romee.

Wow, that was such a brain fart... Yes, I meant 2006 when she closed it!

For me, it was odd seeing Lais in PINK for 2011 when she wasn't in it for 2010. Erin, Candice and Lily weren't odd in 2009 because they were still new or it was their first year in Lily's case. I never understood why it took Elsa so long to open up PINK. You're right about how weird it was to throw Erin back in PINK in 2011. Rachel should've never been hired in the first place... It's also weird to think about how Doutzen closed PINK back in 2006.

On any other girl, it would be so ugly and tragic. But somehow for Doutzen, it works? I think it's the Doutzen fan in me that says she looks good in anything.

I always thought I knew of different designers, but this is the first time I've ever heard of Mary K.

Exactly! With seven segments, they didn't need 60 models. Give some of these girls two outfits, especially the ones with ugly outfits (aka anyone in Downtown Angels and/or MK collab). I think if you're a returning girl who isn't a PINK girl, you deserve two.

Seriously, she brings another level of class to VS, despite the ugly outfits they put her in.

Ahh, you're so lucky to attend! As for AS4, I'm team Manila. I have a feeling Gia, Farrah, and Jasmine will be early outs. Latrice or Manila will make it to top 4. I can see Monet going around top 5. Valentina will have her redemption lipsync and do well. Gia will bless us with new catchphrases.

So if her VS contract still counts for this year and throw on Puma, she'll be ranked pretty high. It's next year that'll take a hit, unless she secures something else. But all and all, she's laughing her way to the bank with all her millions.

Without her Victoria's Secret contract, but with Puma now on her payroll, what do you think her ranking will be on the World's Richest Models or whatever that annual Forbes ranking is called?

It's missing her 2005 Sexy Shadow Dreams outfit.

Is it wrong that I want Adriana to appear in the SavageXFenty runway? I know she and Rihanna are friends, so make it happen!

Yessss! I live for Misty Day, Myrtle Snow, Marie Laveau and all of them!

Now without Adriana, the angels that have been around the longest are Behati and Candice from 2007. From the other models, it's Liu, right? She was there from 2009. I can't think of anyone else that's been there longer.

Haha, well said!

What drives me crazy about the VSFS show are the clashing colors in the outfits, sometimes like four or five together. It's like a kindergartener picked out the color combinations. Limit it to just two colors, please. If they desperately need a third color, make it white or black. Sara's outfit is one of the better ones in Glam Royal because it was limited to just two colors, whereas some of the other outfits were fugly.

All Stars 4 cast is out! I love just about everyone (except Monique...) so I'm cool with anyone winning. Let's be real though, Farrah won't win! But she can whine and moan all she wants and I'll laugh. Oh, she can tell Villaintina off too.

My wishlist is simple: No Sophia No Monica No Ed

I have me theories about it, haha.

Since a lot of us are VS fans, which queens do you think would slay the VSFS runway?

I remember when the thread at tFS was booming for all the older VSFS shows. I used to follow it back in the 2008 days and all the way up until like 2015? Then it just died and I migrated over here. In fact, someone just barely opened a 2018 thread like a day ago and it's pretty much dead.

I hated the tassel hanging off of Miranda's FB. Jasmine's too. It cheapened the bra. The only thing that should hang off the FB is a goddamn beautiful jewel, like Gisele's 2005 one.

Yeah, I still don't think Sadie or Alexina look great in these photos. Their bodies do and the lingerie/simple background, but their faces lack the right look for VS.