20 minutes ago, ItalianMuffinMaker said:

I don't think they will confirm it, Candice never confirms dating someone, which is why I thought it was so weird DeuxMoi reported they were going to announce their relationship, neither of them do that

I ALSO HAD MY SUSPICIONS, especially when Candice followed Lauren Ratner, a friend of Tom Brady's who was at FanaticsFest during the World Cup Finale, where Tom Brady ALSO was, and hilariously enough Shaffer also was (wonder if they saw each other)

My suspicions were dampened when I saw Tom on the stories of Will Makris and Michael Rubin partying in a restraurant in Europe, seemed like a very single man thing to be doing

I think Joan is out of the game, I think this turned from a Candice BAD story to the Candice / Tom Brady story, she deleted the comment calling Candice a backstabber and breaking girl code, so I feel like she backed down, although I really hope she releases messages like when she posted that story where she called Candice "Cinderella," in the last few days she posted a story implying she had damning screenshots of conversations, I really hope Joan is still in the fight! She's the catalyst of all this, I want her to keep going! but I think she's done

Sorry for my excitement, I love drama, I love mess, and I don't really follow any pop culture deeply other than Candice and Taylor Swift, I had no idea what Summer House was

I also think it's funny, all these articles saying "Tom Brady's new girlfriend" because I don't watch football, don't care for it, know nothing about it, but I forget a lot of America does and in that sphere he's more famous than she is

I know she usually doesn't, but her relationships have never blown up like this. She quietly dated Pietro, Andres, and Shaffer. Hermann was the only one she posted about. That's why I'm wondering if this time will be different. Because now, people are going to be on the look out for them in Miami and other places so how much more secretive are they going to get? Wouldn't they rather be able to date out in the open?

I didn't know about the Ratner connection to TB. I just thought she followed her because of her role with Rhode since Candice has worked with them. I was suspicious because she followed followthefishtv and Erling Haaland like a day or two after Tom did. I'm now wondering if she attended the World Cup final with Tom and his kids because she was at that don julio x palm tree crew event the day before.

To be fair, Joan deleted the comment thread a few hours after posting. I'm guessing someone told her it looked bad. Then we all saw what she did the next day on deuxmoi. People are still calling Candice a backstabber and posting the snake emoji in her comments.

I really want to know if Candice thinks this is all worth it. Her friends group has picked a side (although I'm not the biggest fan of them). Even Eduardo hasn't spent much time with Candice this year except when they took photos for tropic of c.

10 minutes ago, db92 said:

I know she usually doesn't, but her relationships have never blown up like this. She quietly dated Pietro, Andres, and Shaffer. Hermann was the only one she posted about. That's why I'm wondering if this time will be different. Because now, people are going to be on the look out for them in Miami and other places so how much more secretive are they going to get? Wouldn't they rather be able to date out in the open?

I didn't know about the Ratner connection to TB. I just thought she followed her because of her role with Rhode since Candice has worked with them. I was suspicious because she followed followthefishtv and Erling Haaland like a day or two after Tom did. I'm now wondering if she attended the World Cup final with Tom and his kids because she was at that don julio x palm tree crew event the day before.

To be fair, Joan deleted the comment thread a few hours after posting. I'm guessing someone told her it looked bad. Then we all saw what she did the next day on deuxmoi. People are still calling Candice a backstabber and posting the snake emoji in her comments.

I really want to know if Candice thinks this is all worth it. Her friends group has picked a side (although I'm not the biggest fan of them). Even Eduardo hasn't spent much time with Candice this year except when they took photos for tropic of c.

And now Shaffer clearly too partying with Joan and Gita again after Las Lap definitely closed down both locations. People in the reviews mention they went to NY last month because Google kept showing it as open but nobody was in, no signs, lights off.

Candice clearly won't do anything but curious if her team will do this time because of how Joan handled the situation and the tabloids are adding sources claiming her living in Miami means something. Eduardo not attending VSFS truly surprised me tbh, I thought she'd bring him but after seeing her bonding again with Rosie and them sharing PR maybe she chose not to have +1

1 hour ago, MissPadilla said:

If is really true her last relationships ended once it became public: Velencoso, Pietro and Shaffer, this surely won't be different. Also her taking any job to be out of the country doesn't match with someone really into the relationship.

If anything they just having fun and not serious. I mean tom Brady jumps from model to model. But ya as soon as her relationship comes public it ends. Wasn’t tom traveling all summer long. If they were in a relationship we would have gotten hints such them posting from a same location. All we saw was tom partying and hooking up with Alix or how ever u spell her name. We know for sure this week.

12 minutes ago, db92 said:

I know she usually doesn't, but her relationships have never blown up like this. She quietly dated Pietro, Andres, and Shaffer. Hermann was the only one she posted about. That's why I'm wondering if this time will be different. Because now, people are going to be on the look out for them in Miami and other places so how much more secretive are they going to get? Wouldn't they rather be able to date out in the open?

I didn't know about the Ratner connection to TB. I just thought she followed her because of her role with Rhode since Candice has worked with them. I was suspicious because she followed followthefishtv and Erling Haaland like a day or two after Tom did. I'm now wondering if she attended the World Cup final with Tom and his kids because she was at that don julio x palm tree crew event the day before.

To be fair, Joan deleted the comment thread a few hours after posting. I'm guessing someone told her it looked bad. Then we all saw what she did the next day on deuxmoi. People are still calling Candice a backstabber and posting the snake emoji in her comments.

I really want to know if Candice thinks this is all worth it. Her friends group has picked a side (although I'm not the biggest fan of them). Even Eduardo hasn't spent much time with Candice this year except when they took photos for tropic of c.

Yeah, I don't think any of her relationships have blown up like this, but I think they're just gonna date without talking to the press, they seem like very private people, DeuxMoi reports she got a lot of messages that people knew about them, I think they're gonna date and not answer questions about it

I also thought the Lauren Ratner connection was from Rhode, it took me a little to piece it together, Brady and Lauren follow each other, they were both at the same event, her husband is like a big media person who helped Hailey Bieber build Rhode I think

I wasn't suspicious about the Erling follow because it seemed during the World Cup EVERYONE was following him, I think he gained millions of followers during that time, as for followthefishtv, that one was suspicious to me, but she was following a lot of musicians at that point, and he is one, so I didn't know what to think, I think Tom Brady followed followthefishtv long before Candice did

As for the watching the World Cup with him, I watched some stories of people I thought he would be with but I didn't see him so idk, and the Don Julio event she attended with an agent from the Lions which I thought was weird, they're like chaperones for the models

I hope Joan still keeps posting about this, even if people are telling her it looks bad, it does look bad for her, but I want her to keep going anyway 😭 I love mess

I always felt like Joan was so much more into that friendship than Candice, and maybe Candice taking her man hurt really bad, because Candice is actually more successful and famous (and personally I think much more beautiful, which is why I think it hurt Joan so bad)

As for if Candice thinks it's worth it, I don't really know, it feels like that whole friend group disintegrated when Joan unfollowed Candice, and probably since Candice and Shaffer broke up, I think Candice tried to extend an olive branch to Dawn, by tagging her when she showed off her nails for the Andalusia photoshoot, Dawn usually reposts all her work, but she didn't with Candice

I think we have to remember Candice was the new person, Nastasya, Joan, Dawn, and Shaffer were already friends, and then Candice came in probably because Joan set her and Shaffer up

Crazy to me that she even lost Gita though, neither posted for the others birthday, they don't like each others posts

I wonder who she hangs out with because I don't think she hangs out with that crew of Miami girls anymore that she used to before the Joan crew, she unfollowed Chanda Carroll and Martha Graeff a while back

As for Bravin, I don't know, he's getting older, maybe he wants not to be Candice's sidekick anymore, or maybe he thought what she did was dirty and stepped away from Candice, I thought it was really weird he would hang out with Shaffer still and that Shaffer would hang out with Frank Maritote too, Bravin and Frank are both old team Candice, so it seemed like he was just one degree away from her still

18 minutes ago, ItalianMuffinMaker said:

Yeah, I don't think any of her relationships have blown up like this, but I think they're just gonna date without talking to the press, they seem like very private people, DeuxMoi reports she got a lot of messages that people knew about them, I think they're gonna date and not answer questions about it

I also thought the Lauren Ratner connection was from Rhode, it took me a little to piece it together, Brady and Lauren follow each other, they were both at the same event, her husband is like a big media person who helped Hailey Bieber build Rhode I think

I wasn't suspicious about the Erling follow because it seemed during the World Cup EVERYONE was following him, I think he gained millions of followers during that time, as for followthefishtv, that one was suspicious to me, but she was following a lot of musicians at that point, and he is one, so I didn't know what to think, I think Tom Brady followed followthefishtv long before Candice did

As for the watching the World Cup with him, I watched some stories of people I thought he would be with but I didn't see him so idk, and the Don Julio event she attended with an agent from the Lions which I thought was weird, they're like chaperones for the models

I hope Joan still keeps posting about this, even if people are telling her it looks bad, it does look bad for her, but I want her to keep going anyway 😭 I love mess

I always felt like Joan was so much more into that friendship than Candice, and maybe Candice taking her man hurt really bad, because Candice is actually more successful and famous (and personally I think much more beautiful, which is why I think it hurt Joan so bad)

As for if Candice thinks it's worth it, I don't really know, it feels like that whole friend group disintegrated when Joan unfollowed Candice, and probably since Candice and Shaffer broke up, I think Candice tried to extend an olive branch to Dawn, by tagging her when she showed off her nails for the Andalusia photoshoot, Dawn usually reposts all her work, but she didn't with Candice

I think we have to remember Candice was the new person, Nastasya, Joan, Dawn, and Shaffer were already friends, and then Candice came in probably because Joan set her and Shaffer up

Crazy to me that she even lost Gita though, neither posted for the others birthday, they don't like each others posts

I wonder who she hangs out with because I don't think she hangs out with that crew of Miami girls anymore that she used to before the Joan crew, she unfollowed Chanda Carroll and Martha Graeff a while back

As for Bravin, I don't know, he's getting older, maybe he wants not to be Candice's sidekick anymore, or maybe he thought what she did was dirty and stepped away from Candice, I thought it was really weird he would hang out with Shaffer still and that Shaffer would hang out with Frank Maritote too, Bravin and Frank are both old team Candice, so it seemed like he was just one degree away from her still

I love how much you’re really getting into this lol. I’m feeling kind of the same way. I get that Candice’s most die-hard fans might not like this situation at all, or maybe they didn’t expect this from her, but the truth is, I’m finding it really entertaining too, it’s like a little real-life soap opera lol.

At this point, I think it’s pretty clear what’s happened. Yes, Candice is dating Brady (practically every media outlet has confirmed it by now, though I imagine there will be people who’d rather stay in denial), Joan and Brady had a thing, and Candice didn’t respect the rules of friendship with Joan.

I’d like to think Candice did all this because she’s deeply in love with Brady and I hope they last a long time (though I don’t believe it’ll happen at all) because otherwise, all this drama just to become another name on Brady’s list of lovers in a matter of a few months… I seriously doubt it’s worth it to her, especially since she’s lost a good friend and has publicly come across as a bad friend and a woman who’s a little too desperate to land the golden bachelor Brady (not that I think so myself, but that’s kind of the image the press is painting of her)..

2 hours ago, MissPadilla said:

If is really true her last relationships ended once it became public: Velencoso, Pietro and Shaffer, this surely won't be different. Also her taking any job to be out of the country doesn't match with someone really into the relationship.

2 hours ago, MissPadilla said:

My thoughts too. Every time a relationship of hers goes public, it goes down

She just unfollowed Shaffer! He had those stories up with Joan and Gita at the Jay Z concert! Oh man, I don't know what this means but I'm sat! I don't think she has ever unfollowed an ex before besides Hermann!

23 minutes ago, ItalianMuffinMaker said:

She just unfollowed Shaffer! He had those stories up with Joan and Gita at the Jay Z concert! Oh man, I don't know what this means but I'm sat! I don't think she has ever unfollowed an ex before besides Hermann!

She unfollowed then after some time, followed Pietro and Andres. So this isn't new

Now that things have reached this point, it would be very unusual for Candice to continue following anyone even remotely close to Joan, especially since most of their mutual friends seem to have taken Joan’s side, whether because they knew her from before, like her better, think it’s the right thing to do or whatever the reason may be.

55 minutes ago, Csalir said:

I love how much you’re really getting into this lol. I’m feeling kind of the same way. I get that Candice’s most die-hard fans might not like this situation at all, or maybe they didn’t expect this from her, but the truth is, I’m finding it really entertaining too, it’s like a little real-life soap opera lol.

At this point, I think it’s pretty clear what’s happened. Yes, Candice is dating Brady (practically every media outlet has confirmed it by now, though I imagine there will be people who’d rather stay in denial), Joan and Brady had a thing, and Candice didn’t respect the rules of friendship with Joan.

I’d like to think Candice did all this because she’s deeply in love with Brady and I hope they last a long time (though I don’t believe it’ll happen at all) because otherwise, all this drama just to become another name on Brady’s list of lovers in a matter of a few months… I seriously doubt it’s worth it to her, especially since she’s lost a good friend and has publicly come across as a bad friend and a woman who’s a little too desperate to land the golden bachelor Brady (not that I think so myself, but that’s kind of the image the press is painting of her)..

Yeah, I'm a huge Candice fan, but she's super lowkey, she doesn't really post anything besides Tropic of C anymore, so this is super exciting

I also think Candice and Tom Brady are dating, I also think Joan and Brady had a thing, but the part about Candice stealing him, that seems so out of character, I feel like there has to be more, every time she's interviewed or something she seems really sweet and kind and people who know her comment the same thing, I feel like there has to be so much more to the story than we know, and JOAN ISN'T TALKING 😤

Maybe Candice is different in private, especially when it comes to men, this exact same situation happened with Irina Shayk when Candice started hooking up with Kanye West, who Irina Shayk dated before Candice

Also the part about warning Joan off because of Gisele sounds super weird, I don't think either of them are close with Gisele, Gisele is a lone wolf, and Gisele was before their time, Gisele was already gone by the time Candice showed up, and way before Joan showed up to VS

I don't know how she can love Tom Brady, if they started dating after the Gucci show they both walked in May, around the same time Joan unfollowed, unless she knew him before that

I saw the exact day Joan unfollowed Candice and I literally wrote it down somewhere because I thought it was super weird, but to find it I have to look through all my papers and I don't want to 😭

As for Candice and Tom, I really don't know, he really is kind of different from all the guys we know she slept with or dated -

Pietro was young and has no kids, maybe he didn't want to settle down, he travels a lot for pleasure

Andres is Europe based, that's probably hard with kids and work and a business

Kanye West is weird and unstable

Harry Styles isn't a one girl type of guy, we know he was sleeping with Candice and Emily Ratajkowksi at the same time, DeuxMoi literally just reported on her podcast he still sleeps with other women even though he's engaged to Zoe Kravitz

Shaffer always seemed like a weirdo, and not her usual type

Like I said before, maybe Tom Brady is her endgame, he's very successful, lives in Miami, has his own kids (which she probably doesn't want to have more after her boob job) Brady got the chance to sleep around after his divorce, maybe this is it for them

But I also thought Shaffer was it for Candice because they dated for so long HAHA, the longest relationship I think she had since Hermann

I don't know, maybe they're gonna last, maybe they won't but I think they're a lot different from the other people each of them has been with

Well well well. I checked the thread today and it turns out I was right and called it before anyone else. I mean it was obvious that it was due to some guy.

On 10/21/2026 at 11:44 AM, mrdouchetheog said:

I bet someone slept or tried to sleep with the other's current partner or ex. A tale as old as time.

23 minutes ago, ItalianMuffinMaker said:

Yeah, I'm a huge Candice fan, but she's super lowkey, she doesn't really post anything besides Tropic of C anymore, so this is super exciting

I also think Candice and Tom Brady are dating, I also think Joan and Brady had a thing, but the part about Candice stealing him, that seems so out of character, I feel like there has to be more, every time she's interviewed or something she seems really sweet and kind and people who know her comment the same thing, I feel like there has to be so much more to the story than we know, and JOAN ISN'T TALKING 😤

Maybe Candice is different in private, especially when it comes to men, this exact same situation happened with Irina Shayk when Candice started hooking up with Kanye West, who Irina Shayk dated before Candice

Also the part about warning Joan off because of Gisele sounds super weird, I don't think either of them are close with Gisele, Gisele is a lone wolf, and Gisele was before their time, Gisele was already gone by the time Candice showed up, and way before Joan showed up to VS

I don't know how she can love Tom Brady, if they started dating after the Gucci show they both walked in May, around the same time Joan unfollowed, unless she knew him before that

I saw the exact day Joan unfollowed Candice and I literally wrote it down somewhere because I thought it was super weird, but to find it I have to look through all my papers and I don't want to 😭

As for Candice and Tom, I really don't know, he really is kind of different from all the guys we know she slept with or dated -

Pietro was young and has no kids, maybe he didn't want to settle down, he travels a lot for pleasure

Andres is Europe based, that's probably hard with kids and work and a business

Kanye West is weird and unstable

Harry Styles isn't a one girl type of guy, we know he was sleeping with Candice and Emily Ratajkowksi at the same time, DeuxMoi literally just reported on her podcast he still sleeps with other women even though he's engaged to Zoe Kravitz

Shaffer always seemed like a weirdo, and not her usual type

Like I said before, maybe Tom Brady is her endgame, he's very successful, lives in Miami, has his own kids (which she probably doesn't want to have more after her boob job) Brady got the chance to sleep around after his divorce, maybe this is it for them

But I also thought Shaffer was it for Candice because they dated for so long HAHA, the longest relationship I think she had since Hermann

I don't know, maybe they're gonna last, maybe they won't but I think they're a lot different from the other people each of them has been with

28 minutes ago, ItalianMuffinMaker said:

Yeah, I'm a huge Candice fan, but she's super lowkey, she doesn't really post anything besides Tropic of C anymore, so this is super exciting

I also think Candice and Tom Brady are dating, I also think Joan and Brady had a thing, but the part about Candice stealing him, that seems so out of character, I feel like there has to be more, every time she's interviewed or something she seems really sweet and kind and people who know her comment the same thing, I feel like there has to be so much more to the story than we know, and JOAN ISN'T TALKING 😤

Maybe Candice is different in private, especially when it comes to men, this exact same situation happened with Irina Shayk when Candice started hooking up with Kanye West, who Irina Shayk dated before Candice

Also the part about warning Joan off because of Gisele sounds super weird, I don't think either of them are close with Gisele, Gisele is a lone wolf, and Gisele was before their time, Gisele was already gone by the time Candice showed up, and way before Joan showed up to VS

I don't know how she can love Tom Brady, if they started dating after the Gucci show they both walked in May, around the same time Joan unfollowed, unless she knew him before that

I saw the exact day Joan unfollowed Candice and I literally wrote it down somewhere because I thought it was super weird, but to find it I have to look through all my papers and I don't want to 😭

As for Candice and Tom, I really don't know, he really is kind of different from all the guys we know she slept with or dated -

Pietro was young and has no kids, maybe he didn't want to settle down, he travels a lot for pleasure

Andres is Europe based, that's probably hard with kids and work and a business

Kanye West is weird and unstable

Harry Styles isn't a one girl type of guy, we know he was sleeping with Candice and Emily Ratajkowksi at the same time, DeuxMoi literally just reported on her podcast he still sleeps with other women even though he's engaged to Zoe Kravitz

Shaffer always seemed like a weirdo, and not her usual type

Like I said before, maybe Tom Brady is her endgame, he's very successful, lives in Miami, has his own kids (which she probably doesn't want to have more after her boob job) Brady got the chance to sleep around after his divorce, maybe this is it for them

But I also thought Shaffer was it for Candice because they dated for so long HAHA, the longest relationship I think she had since Hermann

I don't know, maybe they're gonna last, maybe they won't but I think they're a lot different from the other people each of them has been with

29 minutes ago, ItalianMuffinMaker said:

Yeah, I'm a huge Candice fan, but she's super lowkey, she doesn't really post anything besides Tropic of C anymore, so this is super exciting

I also think Candice and Tom Brady are dating, I also think Joan and Brady had a thing, but the part about Candice stealing him, that seems so out of character, I feel like there has to be more, every time she's interviewed or something she seems really sweet and kind and people who know her comment the same thing, I feel like there has to be so much more to the story than we know, and JOAN ISN'T TALKING 😤

Maybe Candice is different in private, especially when it comes to men, this exact same situation happened with Irina Shayk when Candice started hooking up with Kanye West, who Irina Shayk dated before Candice

Also the part about warning Joan off because of Gisele sounds super weird, I don't think either of them are close with Gisele, Gisele is a lone wolf, and Gisele was before their time, Gisele was already gone by the time Candice showed up, and way before Joan showed up to VS

I don't know how she can love Tom Brady, if they started dating after the Gucci show they both walked in May, around the same time Joan unfollowed, unless she knew him before that

I saw the exact day Joan unfollowed Candice and I literally wrote it down somewhere because I thought it was super weird, but to find it I have to look through all my papers and I don't want to 😭

As for Candice and Tom, I really don't know, he really is kind of different from all the guys we know she slept with or dated -

Pietro was young and has no kids, maybe he didn't want to settle down, he travels a lot for pleasure

Andres is Europe based, that's probably hard with kids and work and a business

Kanye West is weird and unstable

Harry Styles isn't a one girl type of guy, we know he was sleeping with Candice and Emily Ratajkowksi at the same time, DeuxMoi literally just reported on her podcast he still sleeps with other women even though he's engaged to Zoe Kravitz

Shaffer always seemed like a weirdo, and not her usual type

Like I said before, maybe Tom Brady is her endgame, he's very successful, lives in Miami, has his own kids (which she probably doesn't want to have more after her boob job) Brady got the chance to sleep around after his divorce, maybe this is it for them

But I also thought Shaffer was it for Candice because they dated for so long HAHA, the longest relationship I think she had since Hermann

I don't know, maybe they're gonna last, maybe they won't but I think they're a lot different from the other people each of them has been with

Tom Brady rumors aside for a moment,

Candice's dad confirmed to a South African news outlet she and Kanye weren't dating. They collaborated on the Yeezy campaign together, that's all.

Deuxmoi's "source" for the Harry rumor was an unsubstantiated, random Tumblr post.

I'm not sure why rumors that have already been proven false are still being shared as facts. 💀

What I find interesting is Irina Shayk dated Tom before Joan... by Joan's standards, didn't she break "girl code" first by dating Irina's ex? I'm not sure why she's holding Candice to a higher standard than she holds herself. Frankly, Gigi is dating Irina's ex (and dated Gisele's ex, if the Leo rumors were true), Irina dated Gisele's ex, Vittoria is dating Gisele's ex, Behati is married to Anne V's ex... yet, it's only Joan throwing a public temper tantrum.

I also find it interesting that Joan used to be good friends with Doutzen Kroes and Imaan Hammam, but there were no pictures of them together at the VSFS or after parties. We also know Joan had a falling out with another one of her best friends, Riley Montana, around the same time as her falling out with Candice. I'm not saying Candice was in the right here (I also don't agree that what she did was so horrible), but it seems that Candice and Joan were bound to have a falling out sooner or later.... Joan is always falling out with her "friends" and staying involved in drama. Hopefully Candice unfollows the rest of Joan's clique soon.

I noticed that Behati and Rosie were with Candice a lot backstage and during the finale, and avoided Joan. Candice's agent, who used to be good friends with Joan, also posted stories shading her. Taking that into account, I think it would be silly to assume Joan's side of the story is the whole story. I don't think Candice should or will comment, but I do think it's worth considering that Joan, obviously, is telling a one-sided story that makes herself look like a "victim", which frankly is doubtful considering her reputation.

Edit: Sorry, I'm not sure why OP was quoted 3x.

Edited October 26Oct 26 by summerc

15 minutes ago, summerc said:

Tom Brady rumors aside for a moment,

Candice's dad confirmed to a South African news outlet she and Kanye weren't dating. They collaborated on the Yeezy campaign together, that's all.

Deuxmoi's "source" for the Harry rumor was an unsubstantiated, random Tumblr post.

I'm not sure why rumors that have already been proven false are still being shared as facts. 💀

What I find interesting is Irina Shayk dated Tom before Joan... by Joan's standards, didn't she break "girl code" first by dating Irina's ex? I'm not sure why she's holding Candice to a higher standard than she holds herself. Frankly, Gigi is dating Irina's ex (and dated Gisele's ex, if the Leo rumors were true), Irina dated Gisele's ex, Vittoria is dating Gisele's ex, Behati is married to Anne V's ex... yet, it's only Joan throwing a public temper tantrum.

I also find it interesting that Joan used to be good friends with Doutzen Kroes and Imaan Hammam, but there were no pictures of them together at the VSFS or after parties. We also know Joan had a falling out with another one of her best friends, Riley Montana, around the same time as her falling out with Candice. I'm not saying Candice was in the right here (I also don't agree that what she did was so horrible), but it seems that Candice and Joan were bound to have a falling out sooner or later.... Joan is always falling out with her "friends" and staying involved in drama. Hopefully Candice unfollows the rest of Joan's clique soon.

I noticed that Behati and Rosie were with Candice a lot backstage and during the finale, and avoided Joan. Candice's agent, who used to be good friends with Joan, also posted stories shading her. Taking that into account, I think it would be silly to assume Joan's side of the story is the whole story. I don't think Candice should or will comment, but I do think it's worth considering that Joan, obviously, is telling a one-sided story that makes herself look like a "victim", which frankly is doubtful considering her reputation.

Edit: Sorry, I'm not sure why OP was quoted 3x.

I can't find any article of Willem denying Candice was dating Kanye, but I do remember seeing something about that so I believe that's true

But girls lie to their fathers about boys they're dating all the time 😳 especially if a daughter doesn't think her father would approve of the boy, he lives in South Africa I think, I doubt he would even know for sure, also parents lie for their children all the time, I remember DeuxMoi having multiple corroborations that they were dating, and Deux wouldn't have any reason to lie, she just reports what she is told and thinks is true, and multiple people told her this

I also don't think Irina Shayk would have so dramatically split up with Candice and Ali Kavoussi if something wasn't going on with Candice and Kanye

The Harry Style rumor was also told to DeuxMoi by multiple sources, and Candice was liking all of his Insta posts for months, she likes the posts of the guys she's dating

I do think the fact that Joan and Irina were hanging out at VSFS 2026 was super weird, back around 2021 Candice and Irina and Joan were like a trio, they even did a magazine cover together (Vogue Greece Dec 2020), but I think Joan stayed on Team Candice, and now years later she's on Team Irina, super weird

I think Doutzen wanted to stay out of the drama, and kept a distance from both Candice and Joan, which made me sad I love Candice and Doutzen so much more than Joan and Doutzen

As for Imaan Hammam, Imaan, Imaans sister, Joan, Dawn, Nastasya, and Laura Harrier all vacationed in Greece for like a week this summer, so I'm pretty sure Imaan and Joan are cool, Imaan was also promoting Tropic of C on that vacation, so I think Imaan and Candice are also cool, especially with Imaan still leaving positive comments on Candice's posts

I forgot Dawn was also promoting Tropic of C on that vacation, so I wonder what happened after that that made Dawn cold to Candice 🧐

I have no idea who Riley Montana is or where that comes from

I didn't know Ali and Joan were friends, but he was definitley shading her with his posts

I also think there is so much more to this story, unfortunately I don't think anyone will ever tell all of it

I also think Candice will never comment, it's all up to Joan, either she talks, or we'll never know

20 minutes ago, Paul Fernandes said:

  2 hours ago, MissPadilla said:

If is really true her last relationships ended once it became public: Velencoso, Pietro and Shaffer, this surely won't be different. Also her taking any job to be out of the country doesn't match with someone really into the relationship.

  2 hours ago, MissPadilla said:

My thoughts too. Every time a relationship of hers goes public, it goes down

18 minutes ago, ItalianMuffinMaker said:

I can't find any article of Willem denying Candice was dating Kanye, but I do remember seeing something about that so I believe that's true

But girls lie to their fathers about boys they're dating all the time 😳 especially if a daughter doesn't think her father would approve of the boy, he lives in South Africa I think, I doubt he would even know for sure, also parents lie for their children all the time, I remember DeuxMoi having multiple corroborations that they were dating, and Deux wouldn't have any reason to lie, she just reports what she is told and thinks is true, and multiple people told her this

I also don't think Irina Shayk would have so dramatically split up with Candice and Ali Kavoussi if something wasn't going on with Candice and Kanye

The Harry Style rumor was also told to DeuxMoi by multiple sources, and Candice was liking all of his Insta posts for months, she likes the posts of the guys she's dating

I do think the fact that Joan and Irina were hanging out at VSFS 2026 was super weird, back around 2021 Candice and Irina and Joan were like a trio, they even did a magazine cover together (Vogue Greece Dec 2020), but I think Joan stayed on Team Candice, and now years later she's on Team Irina, super weird

I think Doutzen wanted to stay out of the drama, and kept a distance from both Candice and Joan, which made me sad I love Candice and Doutzen so much more than Joan and Doutzen

As for Imaan Hammam, Imaan, Imaans sister, Joan, Dawn, Nastasya, and Laura Harrier all vacationed in Greece for like a week this summer, so I'm pretty sure Imaan and Joan are cool, Imaan was also promoting Tropic of C on that vacation, so I think Imaan and Candice are also cool, especially with Imaan still leaving positive comments on Candice's posts

I forgot Dawn was also promoting Tropic of C on that vacation, so I wonder what happened after that that made Dawn cold to Candice 🧐

I have no idea who Riley Montana is or where that comes from

I didn't know Ali and Joan were friends, but he was definitley shading her with his posts

I also think there is so much more to this story, unfortunately I don't think anyone will ever tell all of it

I also think Candice will never comment, it's all up to Joan, either she talks, or we'll never know

We will know even if Joan don’t comment. I think now that everyone knows about them they are not going to keep it hidden.

Just got done reading all of the stuff today, lots to unpack but just a few of my takes fwiw...

1) we'll never know for sure if candice "stole" tom from joan unless joan releases texts or clear proof... could just be joan/tom broke up and candice swooped in or maybe tom wanted candice more (she seems more his type) and ended it with joan then went after candice

2) not sure gisele plays any role in this, for all we know, if candice did even mention her doesn't mean it was to keep joan away from tom, coulda been as simple as the girls out one night talking about relatinships and joan brought tom up and candice was like "if i was you i'd just be a little concerned about gisele" (or something to that effect)

3) the worst part of the story to me is the alix earle part... as has been previously mentioned tom is a womanizer and has bounced from woman to woman since the divorce (and was probably cheating on gisele plenty during the marriage)... ideally, i wish candice wouldn't be with men who don't treat her as a queen and their 1-and-only... if her and tom were really together then he cheated (?) on her with alix (or at least felt it was fine to be with another woman) and candice still took him back, that's a bad look imho

only other bit of info. i could add is that i last met candice in LA in late March when she attended an event with behati where adam levine was playing, tom was not there... not saying the must be together at all times and maybe they weren't even together then anyway but tom also has a mansion in L.A. and it was a celeb-filled event so if they were together in late march i'd think he woulda been with her

Maybe there should be a "Discussion" thread that is separate from the "Photos" thread - all this unsubstantiated gossip is taking away from posting pics of Candice, which is kind of the point of the thread, isn't it? I'm sure I'm not the only one who is tired of speculating over who shagged who.

36 minutes ago, Shadowlord said:

Maybe there should be a "Discussion" thread that is separate from the "Photos" thread - all this unsubstantiated gossip is taking away from posting pics of Candice, which is kind of the point of the thread, isn't it? I'm sure I'm not the only one who is tired of speculating over who shagged who.

I'm not opposed to a separation and that would obviously be a decision for the mods to make. With that said, I also don't believe anything is "taking away from posting pics of Candice"... anyone can come in here and post new content of her whenever they desire. Some have even done that amid the discussion. At the same time, any of us can scroll right past all the discussion and stop when we see photos or videos to view them. Nobody is being forced to read the discussion.

Just want to propose one more quick theory:

It seems many/most here are quick to want to believe Candice is some evil woman/horrible friend and somehow did something purposely bad to Joan in order to steal Tom... and, maybe she did, none of us know at this point.

But, let me play devil's advocate... what if it's as simple as... Candice watched as 2 of her friends (Irina and Joan) dated him and was likely listening to them saying good things about him for a while. Women share a lot of info. about their men, mostly positive if they are in fact dating. Candice heard all of this and like what he heard and simply decided that, if ever given the chance, she'd make a play for Tom.

Once Joan and Tom were finished she made her move and landed him. I wouldn't be shocked if Joan's entire beef is how fast it happened after she was kicked to the curb and that's why she's so angry. After a break up, both people usually kinda hope their ex goes through tough times and struggles to get back into dating. So the fact Tom wasn't single for long AND his next girl was Candice probably really messed with Joan's head.

6 hours ago, summerc said:

What I find interesting is Irina Shayk dated Tom before Joan... by Joan's standards, didn't she break "girl code" first by dating Irina's ex? I'm not sure why she's holding Candice to a higher standard than she holds herself. Frankly, Gigi is dating Irina's ex (and dated Gisele's ex, if the Leo rumors were true), Irina dated Gisele's ex, Vittoria is dating Gisele's ex, Behati is married to Anne V's ex... yet, it's only Joan throwing a public temper tantrum.

I also find it interesting that Joan used to be good friends with Doutzen Kroes and Imaan Hammam, but there were no pictures of them together at the VSFS or after parties. We also know Joan had a falling out with another one of her best friends, Riley Montana, around the same time as her falling out with Candice. I'm not saying Candice was in the right here (I also don't agree that what she did was so horrible), but it seems that Candice and Joan were bound to have a falling out sooner or later.... Joan is always falling out with her "friends" and staying involved in drama. Hopefully Candice unfollows the rest of Joan's clique soon.

I noticed that Behati and Rosie were with Candice a lot backstage and during the finale, and avoided Joan. Candice's agent, who used to be good friends with Joan, also posted stories shading her. Taking that into account, I think it would be silly to assume Joan's side of the story is the whole story. I don't think Candice should or will comment, but I do think it's worth considering that Joan, obviously, is telling a one-sided story that makes herself look like a "victim", which frankly is doubtful considering her reputation.

We don’t know the details about Irina and Tom, all we know is that Irina and Joan get along very well, maybe better than ever. Irina doesn’t seem to have seen anything in Joan or her relationship with Brady that would make her angry with her, quite the opposite, in fact. I don’t know if Joan asked Irina for permission or what, or maybe she simply didn’t meddle in the relationship to cause them to break up. Joan has made it very clear that Candice did meddle in the relationship, referring to a show famous for a love triangle. It’s no secret that in the fashion industry everyone dates everyone, but when a friend betrays one of her best friends by getting in the middle of a relationship, that is news.

I find it hard to see how Candice can get out of this situation without being seen as someone who hasn’t acted like a good friend. Did she really need to date Brady that badly, knowing that one of her best friends didn’t approve? It’s one of the most basic and fundamental unwritten rules not to date a friend’s ex (especially not so soon, it’s not like 3 years have passed and everything’s been put behind them) unless you have her express approval, which she clearly didn’t have. Not to mention if it’s true that she actively worked to make that relationship fail so she could be the one to date her friend’s boyfriend, as Joan clearly implies, you just don’t do that to a good friend.

I have a confession to make

I have a sickness

I have massive OCD

and I could not stop thinking about the timeline of this, and I knew the information was in my work files, and if I know it's there and I didn't look for it, it would drive me CRAZY

but I generate a lot of data, and so IT TOOK ME TWO FUCKING HOURS

TWO FUCKING HOURS

IT'S OK, I HAD SOLEIL BLU ON REPEAT, SUPERNATURAL ON THE TV

JOAN UNFOLLOWED CANDICE ON MAY 6, 2026

10 DAYS BEFORE THE GUCCI CRUISE SHOW 2027 IN TIME SQUARE MAY 16, 2026

MEANING CANDICE AND TOM WERE ALREADY TOGETHER BY THEN WHEN THEY BOTH WALKED

I WOULD'VE BET EVERYTHING I HAD AND MY SWEET ASS THAT THE CRUISE SHOW WAS WHERE THEY MET

BUT THEY KNEW EACH OTHER BEFORE THAT, WERE ALREADY SLEEPING TOGETHER BY THEN, AND LONG ENOUGH FOR JOAN TO FIND OUT SOMEHOW, GET PISSED AT CANDICE, CONFRONT HER ABOUT IT, AND UNFOLLOW HER

SO THEY'VE BEEN SLEEPING TOGETHER SINCE AT LEAST APRIL 2026

AM I A SOLDIER OR WHAT

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk 😭

I'm ded now, I'm never coming back here

The day pointed me to a date in screenshots, so I looked through them, this is when the article came out that Candice dated a guy named Marcus Buaiz at the end of 2022

Also saw screenshots of our fallen friend DCandiceCom, wish she had kept up her Instagram and Twitter for archival purposes, that girl was a treasure for the fandom, hate that she nuked all of her hard work 😭

I hate her so much for that but she put in so much work so I can't even hate her 😭