*Luna*
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I don't get why you're so confused. You literally said I'm going at people and always want to be authoritarian at everything, which isn't true, I was just asking something. That's why I said apparently it's not allowed to express their views (or ask a question) that are different to others. There was no need for you to make such a snarky comment yet you did it anyway, for what? Right, because I said and ask questions that most don't and I guess that rubs some the wrong way. Probably asking too much now again but I'll try anyway, how and why does BZ get everything first then? Before the press etc? That's stretching it a bit far don't you think. If that really is true then awesome but things will keep on getting leaked no matter what gets done because there will always be people who think it's okay to "take" other people their work and share it elsewhere. But if we're really going that route, then we should also always credit the photographer (s) taking all those pictures we see of the show, since they are the ones taking them and not us. That'd just be more fair, no? I know I wouldn't like it if I was that photographer and saw my work all over the place but with zero credits. -
And how are we (as in others who aren't as close with all your friends on here) supposed to know that they pay for those pictures? I don't know how they do that because those pictures are all over the internet anyway, but sorry for not automatically knowing everything, I guess I forgot that was a requirement too. If I were paying for these pictures I wouldn't want them to be all over the internet either but I wouldn't be posting them all over it in the first place so... Apparently this has been happening for years, why do your friends keep doing that then (spending a lot of money on those pictures and then posting them here?) Even with the post requirement thing, things are still getting leaked so I'm thinking it won't be any different this year. All this talk about becoming a valued member etc is just silly. A member who's been here since 2007 or one who registered in 2017 is just as important and should be treated with the same amount of respect, regardless if you're close with them or not. I never said that it's bad that there are close friendships here on the forum, but there's a big difference between that or some people ganging together when things don't go their way or when someone says something that not everyone agrees with. There are so many members here and I think it's normal that there will always be people with a different opinion, which is what makes it interesting. It would be extremely boring if everyone just agreed on here even though that seems to be the goal, to not say too much or have too much criticism.
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How am I "going" at certain people? I'm just observing what I see and read on here. I'm not making up stuff or whatever it is that you're implying. Also, just because "some of you" have been here longer doesn't make you any better or more important than people who registered later than you and those other "elite members". That comment of yours, yet again, confirmed how much of a clique this forum really is and then people are surprised trolls come here and don't have a lot of respect. It has to come from both sides, you know. You say you'd like more people involved yet when someone asks a serious question (in this case, me) I get accused of going at people and wanting to be the "authoritarian" on everything. You can't expect people to be nice if that's the way you welcome others.
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@PastaFreak But like you said, if Clauds and whoever who says they want to protect themselves, they shouldn't be posting about their "inside info" so openly or hinting at it. If they want to share these things with their friends from Bellazon here then fine but why does it need to be done so publicly? I'm assuming she and whoever she's such good friends with probably also have her email or whatever, why not just share it there, personally, not publicly? Or heck even with a PM message. I don't expect anyone to share anything on here with me, especially not Clauds since she can't stand me for whatever reason, but it's annoying to see all these posts about "inside info" yet no one ever gets told anything unless you belong into their little circle, and if you do ask to share something then you usually get the standard "Oh no I can't, it's sensitive information that cannot be leaked. Nope nope nope." But then a few posts later they'll be saying stuff to their friends like "Check your PM hahaha I sent you a message with what I know about the show!!!". That's why I said what I said about why it's so annoying for the rest of us.
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@PastaFreak You've made some good points but I find it really strange how people are so surprised now that there are a ton of new members and those members posting all over the forum. That was to be expected yet people are surprised as hell? That just doesn't make any sense. If you're going to lock a topic and only have it accessible to members with 100+ posts, you can expect a lot of new members just posting in a lot of random topics in order to get into said closed topic. That is just logic thinking. There's nothing weird or strange about that. I thin the 100 posts requirement is a lot better than 25 but still, people are still going to come in and "steal" information. Because honestly, like I already said before and Schemer as well, if people here didn't find out stuff about VS on other websites or read stuff, no one would have anything to talk about in here. No one. And as much as I'd like to believe these people who claim they have inside info and know names and whatnot, if you're not going to share those names or that information, then just don't mention anything about it. This was already brought up months ago that it's annoying as hell for other members to not be let in and that they have to see other certain members posting things like "I know something SUPER EXCITING OMFG, but should I post it? " or "I know names, but I'm not gonna say it hahahaha!" What's the point of that? Either say it or don't, but don't tease people who don't belong in your clique and then get pissed that they would like to know stuff too. This just creates division and even more tension, but it seems that some members here like that and just love stirring the pot and that they don't want a forum where everyone matters, not just them and their little cliques.
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As far as I know nothing is wrong with her leg but she has a fractured foot. She's basically the new Izabel Goulart (when it comes to working out) although I think Kelly is even more extreme. She never ever stops working out. 3x a day, walks everywhere even with that fractured foot, never allows herself to have a "cheat" (aka normal) day... I hope she'll wake up soon and realize this is not good at all.
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Why are people laughing at all these new members posting because they also want to be able to read this topic? First y'all are annoyed they take your information (which isn't always your information to begin with, because what Schemer said a few pages back makes a lot of sense) and that they should actually participate and now that they do (even if it's for other reasons) they get laughed at? The level of maturity sure has reached an all time low here.
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If it were up to me, not at all. Obviously this lurker situation is a very big deal here to many people so why not?
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It's not about the thread being private that seems odd to me, but like I said before too, 25 posts is hardly anything. Why not change it to 100 if it annoys everyone so much that there are lurkers? I'm sure those people won't be willing to post 100 posts vs 25 posts. I also find it a little strange that apparently next year the thread can be locked earlier and the post count will be 100 yet now it can't... Very confusing. The show is getting closer and closer and regardless of the 25 posts, those people who come here to get information won't stop because of a 25 posts requirement in order to view the topic so I'm guessing all the amazing good juicy news will get on IG anyway and then people here will still be surprised how that happened
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That's not really the point...
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True but what do people here expect then? For some of those lurkers to read all this information and then just sit down and keep it all to themselves?? People constantly share things that they read on the internet. In the end most of us here are also just posting "rumors" and nothing has been really confirmed either so I don't understand the big fuss about it. Let's say if someone would read something interesting about the show on a blog somewhere and wanted to share that information here, I highly doubt that they'd give credit to the blog tbh and that other Bellazon members would expect this person to credit the blog where they found that information. But if it's the other way around, people reading something on Bellazon and then sharing that information somewhere else credit should be given all the time?
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@diamondtw The difference is that for those lurkers, there's nothing to lurk anymore because the part of the forum they want to see is closed, and honestly, 25 posts? Those people will just create an account, make 25 posts in a few topics and they'll be lurking again. About the having respect thing, yes people should have more respect in general, especially on the internet nowadays it's just insane how people insult each other for no good reason, steal other people their work etc, but I honestly don't think someone here saying something about the show such as: Ok guys there will be 6 segments and the FB will be in segment 3 is SUCH valuable information and I don't think that can be viewed as stealing someone's work. Would something like that really make a difference if someone (let's say a lurker) decided to "grab" that information and post it on their fan account. I honestly don't see what's so extremely bad about that. No one here can really confirm that what they say or know is the truth. I can say I've worked on the designs of the show and know who will wear what but that doesn't make it true. If certain people here feel so violated and think that no one should be looking at/reading their posts then maybe those people should make a whole new private forum where they and a few of their "clique" can go, because honestly, there are quite a few cliques here and that doesn't exactly make it all that fun either for newcomers or members who want to participate in conversations and who knows, might actually bring something new to the table, but nope that won't be allowed because #favoritism.
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@Prettyphile Just wondering. I understand why the VSFS 2017 topic has been made private and only to people with a certain amount of posts, but why now? It makes zero sense to do it now, most "good" information has been posted all over social media anyway. It's only like 2 weeks before the show and people have been saying all kinds of things on Instagram (info that some members here are sure of that they apparently found here, although this forum isn't the only place to find info btw) for months. And as far as I know, before the VSFS 2017 topic was locked and only viewable to members with a certain amount of posts, it was a public topic, on a public forum open to anyone to see and I don't think there is anything wrong with people sharing that information, i.e. them posting something somewhere that's not Bellazon by saying "I read something about ... model and the show" etc. If there is some kind of rule then I'd sure like to know where to find these rules. I think the topic should've been made private much earlier but that's just me. Now the rest of forum will probably be flooded by new members just posting unnecessary posts or just an emoji, but I guess that would be okay since other members here do that too I also don't really understand how some people here are so certain that everything that's posted on social media must come from someone here? Like I said this isn't the only place on the web to find info on the show. Anyone can call themselves an insider, say they have juicy gossip or news and still be lying. There's never been proof and saying "yeah but I trust that person" doesn't exactly make it sound more trustworthy.
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I seriously wonder why Kelly's agency doesn't have a talk with her regarding her obsession with working out. If she keeps doing this she won't even be able to step up onto that runway in 10 inch heels and huge wings (if she has wings). I'm not surprised she has a foot fracture (or had now since she uploaded a video of her training with a jump rope). She doesn't seem to get that she should've been resting instead of working out even more and walking everywhere non stop. Not that I want this for her but I'm afraid the only way she will wake up and realize this is just too much is that she can't go to Shanghai because of her foot...
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Yeah seems like Elsa and Hailey both wore the same dress.
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Too bad she didn't go to that Halloween party... Although I kinda understand her though, I wouldn't want to fly across the Atlantic just for one night of dressing up, partying non stop with jet lag and then having to fly back the next day. I'd probably cancel too But who knows maybe she had other obligations in the Netherlands that she had to do.
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What do you guys think about this color? I'd love to see it one day although I doubt she will ever change her hair color to anything else besides different variations of blonde... I like her dress for the Revolve awards but not a big fan of her hairstyle there. Also why does Elizabeth look so awkward? She only seems to have one expression and in that picture she looks like she's following Elsa around like a little puppy or something. Weird
