Souled-Out

It was the same day as the What is Sexy party. The launch had 5 models (Adriana, Ale, Miranda, Candice, Erin) but the signing just had Candice and Adriana. This was on the 12th of May last year. I was thinking that was it but I thought it would have had more pics....I guess not

City of god and also the follow up show called city of men.....I know its based more off of the slums part but the city in general intrigues me, gosh I wish I could go there right now. But my friend went there abroad last summer though Everyone opinion is their opinion but its literally like comparing apples and oranges lol. They are different in every freaking way possible. There is no denying though that when adriana/ale step down its gonna be candice I just hope she gets the attitude right. But unless its really necessary the comparing irks me. But when candice is with the other angels, like with the new line with erin and ale or with the valentines day, VS do have that balance. She wasn't shown too much which is good, and it should stay that way. But I guess every now and then a model has that moment when they are the face of one product. I think her thing was/is VS swim.

Ok so I came across this invite and I know the event this has to be old because those format and pics used were from last year, but when did candice and adriana ever have an event with just them two during the summer bombshell tour???

:shock: the city of god!!!!! I saw a movie on that place and FELL IN LOVE. I want to go there so BAD. Ana Beatriz is from there also. I'm jealous now. As far as attitude goes. I'm tired of explaining it just candice needs to put some pep in her step, because seriously if she did she REALLY could be up there with gisele and adriana I think. I feel like she is a little uptight and focuses on how she looks in others eyes too much. Its to the point where people think she is fake. NOW I may think she is a little blah but I really don't think she is fake. I think for some reason she just accidentally comes off that way. But i'm not buying the "shy" stuff either though. I just think she really cares about how she looks in the viewers eyes. Which can be a good thing but gets annoying after watching it video after video. Ironically I JUST came across this pic, sorry if its a repost

1. Those lists are based on activity and those two are older and those lists don't mean a thing honestly I never thought they did. Even when adriana was around candice age and she was voted number 1 and was in the top 10 for about 3 years, I still didn't think anything of that list. Idk about ale. Its nice for them to be on that list but I can care less about the actual rank. I'm fine with adriana and ale being on 70 whatever. you know that list don't mean anything because even those people who are on top of candice and adriana aren't any more desirable than them imo. I mean even CHANEL IMAN was on top of adriana and NICKI MINAJ was on top of candice AND adriana But beauty is subjective so it really doesn't matter either way it goes. Even on the ask page there were a number of people who commented and thought that candice was ranked to high.... I don't have an opinion about that because idc but it just shows you that everybody is different. Seriously it is REALLY irritating when you start to compare the models over subject shit Like beauty and stuff like that as if its suppose to prove something. Everyone is different and it always depends on preferences when it comes to those subjects. And where were all of you that are comparing them when there was a poll between adriana and candice where adriana won by over 10 votes. Granted, the question was who was prettier, but obviously you all are candice fans you would have voted for candice anyway. That was the time to compare candice and adriana. Unless you was on there and you did vote and adriana still won then...... You can also believe what you want but in the new ads posted above with candice, ale, and erin. You suprsingly don't see candice that much any way. If she really had so much influence on the actual product and is above ale and some sort of way that you said in number 2. I think they would have used her more in the commercial than they did ale. And I know they would have because they used alot of candice in that prague angel commerical. But they didn't in this one. Overrall, Candice is still not above ale or Adriana imo. Idk now that could be due to her being younger or whatever and maybe she does need to grow up but as of now she is no better than them. but there are certain factors she doesn't have one majorly being is her attitude. Its holding her back and until its gets better its going to continue to hold her back, because being an angel during adriana, ale, and gisele's time meant not only being beautiful but having the right attitude. And for me thats what separate candice and the other newer angels from ones like ale and adriana. They don't have it all that like the older angels did and all that the older angels did have is what made them that popular today and the reason why they have soo many people that know of them and are fans of them, the reasons why they trend all the time on twitter, the reasons why the get so many followers on twitter, hell they reasons why adriana and gisele was mentioned in a kanye song. Thats the type of popularity and recognition i'm talking about.

Yeah and that may be her reason but that doesn't mean she doesn't usually go out looking for attention, we all know at times she does and can be like that

Adriana doesn't do that stuff all the time really, Those models like attention and stuff like that. Adriana really doesn't that much. I can tell from her tweets though that she was watching it though and went to bed right afterwards. But I know ale likes alot of attention idk bout anne v and the others, but my GUESS is that its the same. I remember seeing miranda at a golden globes party, and we all know how she is. I'm sure adriana could have went if she wanted to just by the names that did go.

Even with candice bf being brazlian? idk how popular he is though as a model. True. Yeah Gisele is something else even I would put her on top of ale and adriana. Never actually got why besides her walk and SOME of her pics but she is blessed He is not famous here, not at all The thing about Gisele I guess it was something about her personality. She put it out on the runway too. And I've heard she is a great professional. I guess it counts a lot and we have no idea how much. The way they behave, what they are up to doing, their presence, their image around the business... everything. Even the fitting. Maybe that's what happened to Gisele. Cause I like her, but I was NEVER a fan. Oh well it looks like she spends alot of time there with him. and yeah gisele has a certain presence and personality about her thats unique. Am I a fan, meh it depends lol. But I actually like her type of beauty, I know alot don't but its one of my favs. Which part of brazil are you from?

Even with candice bf being brazlian? idk how popular he is though as a model. True. Yeah Gisele is something else even I would put her on top of ale and adriana. Never actually got why besides her walk and SOME of her pics but she is blessed

SO any other baby evidence?? Had to get off the thread I was on because I was starting to get mindfucked by that certain someone's fans for a bit

Like I said before, I live in Brazil and Gisele is known everywhere by everyone. Alessandra is like... 70%. Adriana... maybe 50%. The media knows Candice, obviously, all those tops are known. But I'm talking about.... public knowledge. Anyways. Nice to know how it is from another country

Exactly. Didn't you say that some crucial professionals in this business still don't even know her? (A reason why she will never be that big like Adriana, Ale etc.) Maybe I got you wrong. Noooooo I don't believe so. If I did I meant mainstream, I am not one not judge HF because I don't follow it, I don't like, and Idgaf about it. And its rare I like the models that do it. And I know candice has to be known some way in the HF world after she lost all that weight and did all that work for it.

Give her a little time. Although she has been modeling for years, her "real" career just began 2 years ago. And since then she has improved really quick and now she does a lot of high fashion work. However, it's way too early to claim that she will never reach the level of a "historic" model. You guys are in a tearing hurry (If one can say that in this context...) But...I wanted to know the names of professionals who are important in the high fashion world. I don't mind "regular day people", because such statements are completely useless since we just know a few people and not the whole world. It's beyond our ken. Additionally, being big in high fashion doesn't necessarily mean that you're famous among "regular day people". It's like with artists. They are huge in the art scene and maybe even one of the greatest people of the century, but they're not known among normal people. Are you asking who don't know her in the HF world?

Who don't know her? Basically the media, Like cherrybomb said, people who follow VS and some who follow fashion know her, but as far as reglar day people who come across models like adriana, ale, miranda, Giselle, through social networks and media things, they don't know her. You'd have to know about VS and be a fan of it to know who candice is and why she should be just as important. But she is young so there is time to work on it but it better be quicker before some serious competition come her way or before the originals leave because I personally think once adri and ale is done, VS is going to fall short of what they use to be

Do you know VS's annual balance sheets? Maybe they earned more money since Candice is overexposed? They wouldn't use her that much by arbitrariness. There must be some benefit and I think it's an economic one. I don't think that they are using her for economic reasons, I think if they were thinking about it economically they would have used adriana or ale. Adriana is always the one that is trending during the vsfs, Chanel Iman trended in 2010 because she was becoming an angel, Candice opened. It wasn't a suprise that she opened. She is the first model to break adriana's opening cycle and got two wings. Candice didn't trend. On the day the VSFS was happening and the night it aired, you should be able to Google any angel and stuff about the vsfs should come up. For adriana, ale, miranda, doutzen, things came up.I actually searched for candice nothing about 2011's fashion show came up. I don't even think it was noted that candice opened in the articals/pics about the show and got to wear two wings, like it was for adriana. At the VS swim launch last year that miranda had came back in and candice had that white dress on, on the carpet with the photgraphers when they yell the model's name they called everyone names but called candice "the lady in white". *ouch* So thats why I asked MissNKlovesphotograph she means that candice is big in HF, because as far as the media and stuff goes *the things ale, adri, gisele, miranda* are popular in, candice isn't really that popular. If you are a VS fan like we all are then yeah of course your gonna know who candice is, but outside of that circle not really. One thing when adriana, ale, gisele was her age the media knew who they were by then. Some of them still don't. The only reason I can see why they are using her so much is so that she gets more popular but all of the other angels def. needs that exposure too. But I still can't see any of them getting as popular or as notable as the old angels were

You don't know anything about target audience, do you? Just because there are old women who buy VS stuff doesn't mean that VS targets them. For example, look at their website. It's pink and white. Those are typical colors for a young audience. (Color psychology) Or if you look at their Corporate Communication, you will recognize that they use social networks a lot. They try to get new customers by using Twitter, YouTube and so on. That's another indication for a young audience. Or the image VS is trying to represent. Flirty, funny, active... The models are talking about their first kisses or first dates. All these things are not prepared for an audience around 40. They want to attract young women. And well, there are studies (e.g. HOBA experiment) that prove that our purchasing is influenced by the media, advertising, etc. It's a fact. :| I get what your saying a target audience is, and I know what target audience is but didn't I say "I don't think it really matter that much" yeah thats what I said. I don't think target audience matter that much and I still don't find it a good reason to keep using candice all the time.

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I find her really pretty!

is he going to the oscars this year?

Versatile in what way? EXACTLY lol, Adriana is the versatile of the versatile IN VS, even more so than candice, but she said it was her opinion so I too ask what does she mean by versatile.

Well, I've been studying this stuff for years now (I'm talking about communication design and this stuff) and my teachers have always been very satisfied with my analyses, so I could try to find out VS's target group if you want to. I think their target group are young women around their twenties. Men are a just a "accompaniment", however, not intended. If you look a VS's Corporate Identity, it's clear that the target are not men. Do you want a more detailed analyses? With explanations or so? That sounds like pink. No thanks because target group I don't think matters that much. Pink is basically for teens and girls in their twenties and stuff. But you also see older females(mid late 30's) using it also. The same goes for their products. I got my first VS bra not from pink but from VS it was 56 dollars, I got it when I was 14 every year since that age, i've been receiving those same kind of bras, none from pink. I've had some friends that was like that also. Like I said before people are gonna buy what they want to, when they want to, and I don't think a model has an influence on that. Its like what people say, when they see the models in the lingerie, no one is looking/paying attention the actual product. I mean look at that VS swim video she was just in that CherryBomb posted, not one comment on that video had to deal with the product. Just about her being overexposed, not overexposed, or beautiful. No one cares about the actually product the model is wearing. I think the only thing that would matter is age. As in if someone is too old. But none of the angels are too old and all the new angels are around the same age. I mean its lingerie and clothing and accessories and beauty you can target all ages from 17 and up

OK, I've been trying to figure out this for the longest what is up with this "real"/natural stuff with models like miranda and candice being put into the comparison with adriana? Anytime someone compares adriana with those two they say natural and real, what does that mean? And also what you mean by versatile, in what actually? As far as the other stuff....thats brazil. We are talking about VS and basically america, honest, because someone told me that adriana look likes every other girl brazil so I decided to google brazilain girl and adriana was the first person model/celeb from brazil to pop up.... So yeah here is alot of where adriana's popularity come from, can't argue with that but can't find a problem with it either, though at times I can't stand this country myself, but thats something else

The target audience is one of the if not the most important thing for a company. Everything - the whole Corporate Identity, the product design, etc. - is determined by it. I ensure you VS makes no move without considering the target group. And actually, if you know how, it's not difficult to find out their target group. You just have to know a bit about media psychology and communication design. Well do you know the target group?

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