Miz_B how old are you? I would like you to know that the fact that you've read two of my posts doesn't give you the right to judge me and that though defending your point of view is OK assuming that all people who disagree with you are idiots isn't something a mature person should do.
I'll put quotes from your posts between these signs: "%%"
%%The pictures, easily said. Strapless bra in the 1st picture and no bar in the second. Since it's v-cut. how odd would that look if she wore a bra? Adriana isn't naturally busty, that's where the photoshopping comes in and push up bras.%%
Why did you focus on the bra? Can't you notice her face? Hips? Belly? Don't you see how different they look on ALL recent pics?
If you still think that the bra makes the difference then compare any new pic on which she is wearing a dress with the ones form the "Secret" perfume launch (brown dress) or the ones from the "fountain" TIM commercials.
In the past she looked great in absolutely everything and now when she doesn't look stunning then it's because of the clothes, bras and makeup...
%%Every study shows? Yeah well prove it,or is it just one of your made up statistic.%%
You didn't bother to use google, did you? I typed in "women beauty proportions" and got tons of articles about symmetry and proportions being extremely important in human ways of judging beauty. Most of them are about faces, but there are some about bodies too.
Like this one. It was 4th on my google results list. If people are too lazy to read that I'll give them a quote: "Scientists have also found that the body's proportions play an important role in perceptions of beauty as well. In general, men have a preference for women with low waist-to-hip ratios (WHRs), that is, more adipose is deposited on the hips and buttocks than on the waist."
I got carried away when I wrote that every study will show that, but I'm sure that at least 90% will.
A perfect woman would have a body shaped like a hourglass. It doesn't matter if women are skinny like "old" Adriana or have more meat on their bones like Monica Bellucci - they will have beautiful bodies if they have a waist much slimmer then their butt and chest.
Unfortunately when Adriana gained weight it went mostly to her belly and waist area...
%%Probably is I can go outside my house right now and ask men do they care about proportions, most of them will say they either want a butt or nice breast, depending on what they value more.%%
And what would they answer if you asked them what do they like in that particular butt? They would say that they like it because it has some meat on it, but not too much (so it isn't sticking out too much or doesn't seem too wide), that they like how it smoothly "connects" with the girl's legs and how her slimmer waist gives great curves to her hips. They would have told you about symmetry and proportions.
You don't believe me? Let's imagine an experiment. Let's pick a good looking woman with great breasts first. I think many men were crazy about Pam Anderson's breast. Now let's pick a good looking woman with barely noticeable breasts. I think Keira Knightley is a good choice. Now imagine we surgically removed Pam's breasts and put them on Keira. Perfect breasts would make Keira look better... or wouldn't they? Imagine slim-hip and tiny-waist Keira with Pam's huge boobs... It would look grotesque, wouldn't it? How come something that looks great on one woman could make another become ugly? Because it would make the other one disproportional.
Women with small breasts need to be thin to be proportional.
%%Also it's men like you that cause some women to have insecurities about their body which leads them to have eating disorders.%%
That's a topic for another conversation, but IMO women don't get eating disorders because they see beautiful women in colorful magazines - they get eating disorders because they can't notice they don't have the right genes to be stunning, are too shallow to see that looking "average" is enough for 90% of people, and these women aren't bright enough to notice that the real world doesn't look like the one in magazines/ads.
%%I highly doubt Adriana cares what a man like you thinks about her body. Adriana obviously doesn't cater to people like you who expects her to look a certain way or act. She does what she thinks is best for her and that's what I like about her, she takes chances. Adriana is not selling her products to you, she's selling them for women. Not every woman is a size 0 or has "even out proportions" you only look at adriana because she's eye candy. Are you out buying the bras and panties she's advertising? No! How about the clothes? No or how about the make up? NO ONCE AGAIN!%%
Women aren't crazy about Adriana's new look too.
What makes me think so?
You wrote that VS catalogs are created for women, right?
Let's start from the beginning. What makes VS people use one model in catalogs more often then some other one? I think it's quite obvious that it's not random. They check how many clothes has a particular model "sold". So if model A had 10 pictures in the last catalog and the clothes she wore weren't popular (not many of them were sold) and model B had only 2 pics, but "her" clothes were very popular VS people decide to give more space in the next catalog to model B.
If Adriana is looking so great, natural, womanly, curvy and doesn't wear clothes worse then the ones other models wear why is she getting so little attention in VS catalogs? Because other models make the clothes look better, because women who buy VS stuff find other models more attractive and buy the stuff the other models wear.
A funny thing is that most women who would buy the clothes they saw on VS catalog queen Alessandra would also say that they consider Adriana to look better, more "womanly".
Why would they do that? Pure psychology IMO. I think that when a famous, stunning woman loses her look (usually because of age or pregnancy) there are many women who support her and say she still is beautiful. They do that because deep down in their subconscious they hear a voice telling them: "look at her! People call her beautiful, but there isn't anything inhuman about her. You could be like that too if you did some exercises. You don't look that much different then her! You are beautiful too!". Basically by giving support they make themselves feel better, because if women who don't look very different from average ones would be considered beautiful then the average ones would feel better about their look.
%%Do I care you had a good laugh about the womanly statement? No, The truth is Adriana does have a more womanly figure now, You have to be blind not to see it, she has curves in all the right places. Before she had the body of a 12 year old boy, but maybe your into girls who look like guys. What ever floats your boat.%%
It's good to see that you are trying to insult me - it means you don't have any real arguments left...
%%Nobody knows why Adriana lost the TIM contract, but people on here said because she wanted more money and they wouldn't give it to her. Why would her weight play a role in a commercial? It's not like she gained 60 pounds.%%
She got the TIM contract thanks to her look so it's possible that when she started to change it TIM people noticed that soon she will not be able to be attractive enough to make Italians become TIM clients.
It's possible that she simply wanted too much money, but isn't it also possible that she wanted to get a reasonable amount of money, but TIM people thought she isn't worth it? That it's better to invest in another model?
We will never know...
%%About the promotions, Adriana was on the view in 2005 without any other angels promoting the fashion show and in 2006 she was on E! I believe, can't remember doing a interview during her fitting without any other angels.%%
She was on the View to smile pretty and let that VS woman do 90% of the talking.
When you ask someone 3-5 questions it's not really an interview...
Why Adriana didn't appear in a serious show like KK on Leno's and AA on Conan's?
%%If adriana didn't have a contract with Maybelline, I'm sure she would be out their promoting make up and more stuff. %%
When she looked better VS gave her much attention during perfume promotion events. Now she is just one of the angels.
%%Like I stated before (you must be blind not to see what I wrote) Adriana likes to spend time with her family, so she goes to Brazil every opportunity she gets. Would you like to be working all the time and not see your family??? %%
I saw that, but I didn't comment it because I didn't want to insult you. The sentence "Models like to spend time with their family" seems extremely childish too me, because it implies that models generally are idiots. What do I mean? Models should be aware of the fact that they will be unemployed since they will be around 30, so they should gather as much money as possible till than, so they will survive at least another 30 years. Beside that they should be aware that when they'll stop working they will be able to spend all the time they want with people they care about, so it's worth to work hard now.
Would I like to work all the time and not see my family?
I'm studying away from my hometown and I see my family on holidays... Does that answer your question?
%%If I was Adriana, I would miss promotions too, there is nothing more important in my life than my family. And VS wouldn't let her go because she's out spending time with her family rather than promoting crazy like other models because if they did, Heidi would be the first to go.%%
Do you really think Adriana has a choice? She signed a contract with VS and VS lawyers would be complete idiots if they didn't put a paragraph about promotions in it.
She didn't decide to work less. It's VS who decided to give her less attention.
%%I'm done with this topic, reply if you wish with some more bs. You're not a woman and will never understand why females like me admire Adriana and like her body the way it is right now. I hope you stop looking at Adriana as a piece of meat and look at her as a human, knowing she has flaws and isn't perfect. People change you need to accept it and get over it.%%
Like I wrote before I believe that women who support Tyra or Adriana do it to feel better about themselves. Actually I wouldn't be surprised if it was VS in the first place to suggest gaining weight to Adriana. They knew they will lose their only "natural" woman, Tyra soon and they needed someone they can use as an example that weight isn't important for VS.
I'm really disappointed that Adriana is losing her look - she isn't really old, she wasn't pregnant or sick... She used to be so stunning that she could have became a modeling legend like Cindy or Naomi, but now she will be degraded to and example that you don't have to be very thin to wear VS clothes.
I'll not write any more posts about this. I think my opinion about Adriana's look is clear and understandable.
