Memento Mori

That's just silly. Groundhog Day is one of the BEST movies ever.

Eh, it's history in that there was a battle of Thermopylae, Xerxes and Leonidas were leaders,and some of the quotes used in the movie are real. That's where it ends, really. The phalanx didn't really fight like that, and the Persians didn't employ monsters and beasts. They did employ light infantry, which crashed up against the phalanx, leaving a scene that resembled a meat grinder. Anyway, the invasion still wasn't stopped until the Athenian navy sank the Persian fleet, leaving Xerxes without support. Not to diminish the accomplishment of the 7,000 Greeks (300 of whom were Spartans) at Thermopylae by any means, though.

He has a thread here. Hey are you from New England? My family is, I'm a 2nd generation New England sports fan.

He has a thread here.

Probably because her character doesn't really do anything - neither does Orlando. It's basically a Johnny Depp vehicle now.

Yeah, because Matt Leinart is still with the girl he got pregnant at USC. Oh... wait...

How much you want to bet that Bridget feared Brady would move on, and "forgot" to take the pill or something?

STOP THE PRESSES! A professional athlete with illegitimate children? No whai!

Low self esteem. It actually makes a lot of sense.

The NY Post spotted Gisele Bundchen, who's dating Tom Brady, taking an "S Factor" pole-dancing class on West 23rd Street. -- New York Post Height 6 ft 4 in (1.93 m) Weight 225 lb (102 kg)

How YOU doin? /please, please don't take me seriously

1 - Is it Human? 2 - You can tell it's a woman 3 - Unattractive with several major negative features 4 - Unattractive, but not ugly - just "eh" 5 - Unremarkable 6 - Otherwise unremarkable woman with a desirable feature or two 7 - Attractive, but not spectacular 8 - Beautiful woman with some minor negative features 9 - Beautiful woman with no perceivable flaws 10 - Same as a 9, but with a unique and stunningly rare look

Whatever you say.

That's different than "the highest thing a human can achieve." Best job combines different factors. A greater achievement? Leaving a lasting mark on history so that people will know your name hundreds and thousands of years after you die - now that's the ultimate achievement. No one is going to care about Adriana or Gisele in 100 years.

Someone really needs a sense of perspective, big time.

Most guys will be like, "Huh? Beyonce?" Then look inside at everyone else. But you misunderstood my point, I was trying to make clear what SI thought would happen.

It's not called the Sports Illustrated Versatility in Modeling Issue. Now that is silly.

The notion that models should be versatile is acceptable. But look at actors, they're supposed to be versatile, but few are. Most end up specializing in a genre. Same with models - as specific as a hand model to as prolific as Gisele - there's plenty of room inbetween. The way I look at the Swimsuit Issue is that it should go to a great swimsuit model - because the issue isn't about versatility, it's about swimsuits.

And she's dating the inspiration for me username. Booyah. Go Tom.

Probably, but when has she ever been in the mag? There are a lot of models that could have transcended what Beyonce or the other models could have. What if Jessica Alba or Scarlett Johansson were on the cover? SI wouldn't be able to print them fast enough. Although personally I think Adriana looks better in general fashion and lingerie than swimsuits - it's just not her strength in my opinion - but I'm just one man. It's basically the opposite of how I feel about Marisa Miller, who would probably agree with me when I say she was born to wear a bikini. You'll get no argument from me. But I think it's problematic trying to label all models in to the same group. It's actually a pretty specialized industry. Very few models (like the ones who have their own subforums here) transcend beyond one or two things.

"Butterface" is a relative term. Among models, maybe. But Marisa's face, when taken as a part of the greater population - isn't anything to be embarassed about. Her body however is out of this world in either realm. Beyond that, I posted this in the other thread but I think it's on topic here too.

I don't follow the modeling industry like most of the people here, but it would seem to me that the cover of any major publication is prestigious. The SI swimsuit issue is pretty significant in that it is the best selling issue of a very successful magazine - that a lot of people get anyway - and hits the "Golden Demographic" - 18-35 males. I subscribe, and I fit in to that demographic. That being said, magazines like Playboy and Maxim probably don't add to a model's prestige as a model. Why? Because in "Lads' Mags" the models are modeling themselves, not whatever outfit the photographer put them in. Does it raise their exposure among males? Of course, but we're not going to start buying fashion magazines to see them more, unless we have some issues or a pack-rat mentality. However if a model gets covers like SI and Cosmo and GQ and what not, actually modeling, I imagine that helps quite a bit. So why is SI important? Because it combines the mass exposure that one gets from a Lads' Mag with the legitimacy of a normal modeling job. I read somewhere that Gisele Bundchen was the richest model on the planet right now, so I wonder how many covers she has in relation to other models? How many campaigns does she work for? etc. Beyonce doesn't need the hype, and I think that's why a lot of you guys are mad - you have your favorite models that you want to see succeed and get more exposure - and to an extent I sympathize, I always wanted Laetitia Casta (or nowadays Marisa Miller) to land the cover so that they'd get more exposure (read: more pictures and videos for me to gawk at in awe) - but I haven't invested much time in that hope. Those of you with thousands of posts here and elsewhere in the threads of your favorites have, and I understand the annoyance. But that being said, you can't expect SI to care about furthering a particular model's career, it isn't their job, they want to sell magazines. If their studies have determined that Beyonce, with her name recognition, will sell more magazines, they're going to do it - regardless of what Raica, Marisa, Ana B, or whoever's agent tells them to do.

Bingo. The cover is just one pic, I'm raiding the website right now, lol.

It's kind of something silly to get mad about. Most people who subscribe to SI or buy the magazine are guys, and they don't really give a crap about the prestige involved in the cover. I subscribe to SI for the sports, the swimsuit issue is just a bonus - Having lithe, stick figure models on the cover never really made sense - and while Beyonce doesn't really make any more sense - it isn't any worse. Frankly I think last year's cover was worse. Let's show a bunch of past-their-prime models, hooray! IMHO it would make sense more for a mag like SI to use actual athletes like Maria Sharapova (even tho I'm not a huge fan) or at least athletic models like Marisa Miller (judge her all you want, but her surfing ability likely far surpasses the best athletic achievement of your favorite model - which would legitimize her more for things like SI than say Victoria's Secret or the runway - admit it).

If only girls like her only cost $0.10. lol. She's engaged to a NFL quarterback.