JoeKnight

Laetitia x1 Doutzen x2

Heads up guys.. NEW VS commercial I was watching CSI: New York and at around 10:18 - 10:23 there was the new VS Black Friday Commercial with Adriana. Just keep a look out

oh wow, thanks mich

What I don't understand is how the Angel grouping got soo off course. I mean, not that the new girls aren't good, I mean, KK was really rising fast and wore the fantasy bra in 2003 eventhough I don't think she was an angel yet and by 2005, and 2006 her and Gisele were like counter parts. They went great together. And from show like 2002(I think) yu could see how the leaders of VS loved Adri and were so proud of how she grew up before their eyes. And Ale even trained one of the new girls (I believe 2003). Then she was the PINK spokesmodel, which never really went anywhere as far as her being part of the line in the show. I mean KK, Adri, and Ale are famous, but I don't understand why they haven't been taken to a higher level. You know what I mean. Now some would say because they didn't do as much branching out as the others, ad maybe that's it, but that question I don't have an answer for. But these new "media focus girls" Selita and Miranda for example. You always hear the media talk about them and want to hear what they think, but they haven't really done as much as some of the others. For the record I'm not bashing them or saying they don't deserve it. For example, I love Miranda and I'm so glad she's an Angel, but I don't understand why she's in the lime light more than some of the others (probably Orlando Bloom). Now I know Adri dislikers etc. will say what about her, she got a lot of press this year, ... but that's my point. One second the media is hooked on Adri, the next Heidi, the next Selita, etc, etc, etc, now Doutzen and Behati. We need a more centered Angel Force. I just have a feeling that VS knows this deep down inside and that's why I say the ranks are shaky. We shall see what the future holds.

No, I see what you're saying. I'm of course an Iza fan, but also an Adri, Ale, Heidi, etc fan. I'll be objective. When Gisele was with VS, it wasn't like she was Heidi is now for one huge reason. BALANCE There were the 3 Arch-Angels: Gisele, Heidi, Tyra They were perfectly balanced and complimented each other. They had huge runway name and/or editorial names (such as SI). Everyone knew them, and those who didn't were introduced to them during AAA Tour. VS never had to say "these are our lead angels". Everyone knew they were. With Tyra leaving in 05 and Heidi's 06 absence it was like Gisele was the leader. (Eventhough that was far from the case) The media just had to go with something. Then Gisele left, and the media is like "who's the lead angel" (which was a misconception from the start) There was even a point when they said that Ale was approached to be the lead angel, but she said "the angels are all equal, and have no leader". But that wasn't good enough for the media. Then when they saw Heidi back they said" oh boy, they have a leader again" (they didn't get the picture that there is no leader). Since Heidi is one of the original Arch-Angels, the media will always believe she's the leader. It's the same idea of why there is so much misconception about who's an Angel ....it's the media. In summary: It's not Heidi's fault, it's the media. Heidi has so much stuff on her plate, she doesn't need to hog the VS spotlight, it's the media. What VS needs to do is have another AAA tour, where they introduce America to the "new Angels". But as far as that...I think the Angel ranks are a little shaky right now...so if anything we might see that in a few years.

Thanks azkid. Vamp you can just post pics of Heidi. I just want the vid to be both. Or you can do pics of Seal and post them in his thread.

thanks sanja. Someone's gonna cap Heidi and Seal on Leno tonight right. As a vid. Both of them. Pleassssssssse

beautiful stuff. Thanks so much everyone. I was soo excited to see her at Rosa Cha. I downloaded the vid and when I was watching it I was like "OMG, Michelle's there. Yay"

thanks, awesome stuff. Don't tell me I'm the only one who loved the Heidi and Seal interview.

best use: Naomi ( Gemma had a lovely portrayal, but Naomi was like the backbone of that vid) best vid: Not sure best song: Gemma Overall: Naomi

now it's the big time AnaBB x1 Petra x2

I'll pm my Ale pics tomorrow

Wow, so many open spaces. If it's okay...I nominate Alessandra for best backstage/prep and best expression I have such a funny sexy pic for that

@mich & Joe

yeah, I'm willing to bet Vamp will have another HQ screencap bonanza

can someone please give me cleavage feedback, I need it for tomorrow

I know what you mean mich, I wish models like Isa were as big in the US as they are in Italy, Brazil, etc. I think I might move. BTW, thanks for the pics Francy and the vid wickedcrazyness

Everyone, does anyone have a better clevage pic from 08. This is what I have thus far. Good enough or is there better. Julia, Thiago, ... I'd like imput from at least one of you. But feed back is welcome from everyone.

I wish there could be a backstage group shot category

Alright Alright, break it up. Break it up. On a different subject, what do you all think of the music for this year. Personally, I haven't listened to it or seen any youtube things of the show yet, because I don't want to ruin Dec. 3 . But do you guys think the music was good tis year. And also , there are usually like 12 pairs of wings and I've only seen like 8. Was that it or were there 4 new wings in the finale??

aww, thanks buddy I think these are getting tougher as we go along Natasha 1.7 Miranda 1.3

I didn't say she's lazy, I know she works a ton. I was just saying that her schedual has so much other stuff that she no longer lives, eats, sleeps, drinks, and dreams VS. She does all that for PR, her jeans, her jewelery, etc, etc. But yeah, she swamped with work. I could tell that from the Bloomingdale's signing. Oh God, ... I hope that weird guy's not at the Lexington opening. He like stalks Heidi, but hates VS promotions. I really don't want to see him again. And after what he said about Adri last time, I really might not be able to hold myself back this time.

I think Francy already nominated Isa. And pics should be pm'ed not posted. Limalicious, I'll send the edited pic tomorrow.

thanks for all the vids. I love that one where she's 18.

thanks for the pics. Easily one of my favorite couples