1 hour ago, ItalianMuffinMaker said:

You shouldn't let small things bother you so much

Anyways, can anybody tell me what MissPadilla posted that got deleted, I totally missed it

I don't know what to believe 😁 People talking about what they think of a situation can be a lot different than what is actually happening, disappointing that more about this story hasn't come out, it's nice to get a break though 😁

She posted the advent calendar video which had already been posted.

1 hour ago, Badobaran said:

They keep saying the same things; it’s clear that Ali and Candice are looking for a more serious relationship. Maybe things will become clearer in a few weeks

33 minutes ago, Badobaran said:

If Candice weren't looking to get serious, she wouldn't have ruined a 15-year friendship for someone like Tom Brady. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up cheating on her. I wonder what Candice plans to do after this relationship; since her breakup, she hasn't even been with a suitable man. She spent 13 years with an "ordinary" model, and now she’s dating people who are anything but normal. I don't think it should be that hard for Candice to find her dream man, but I’m pretty sure that in Miami, nobody is actually looking for love

If the timeline is correct, he already has cheated on her with Alix Earle.

Unfortunately, I think a big obstacle for Candice is that she has children. I don't think any of the men she has dated before Tom wanted to be a stepfather yet. She said in a podcast during covid that she likes to know what more can men bring to the table because she's capable of providing for herself and her kids. Based on what we know about Pietro, Andres, and Shaffer, I think she was the one doing the heavy lifting. Tom is a different animal. He's on another level to four men she's been with.

19 minutes ago, NotABird said:

This is spot on. I am close friends with a few people in the industry that know Candice (and also know Joan for that matter). From what I hear, people in Candice's camp are worried about Joan sharing details of her relationship with Tom and the way Candice betrayed her fifteen year friendship with Joan for a man. Joan and Tom had been dating for about 8 months and ended their relationship in December. Candice started dating Tom in March. Apparently, Candice was advocating for Joan to not be so engaged in the relationship with Tom and speculated that dating Tom would be boring, he's too American, etc. Fast forward a few months, Candice sneaks in and starts up a relationship with a man that her best friend clearly was romantically invested in at one point.

I'm not that surprised to learn about this. I heard a similar thing happened with a former model friend of hers and Kanye West. Candice and this friend stopped talking after it. She has a pattern of such behavior and has always been fixated with raising her profile, despite her being 'so private'.

The word from people closer to the drama is that Tom is already annoyed by the drama surrounding the Candice and Joan triangle and that he's shown little to no patient in wanting to deal with Candice's anxiety surrounding this. She's trying to legitimize this relationship and is much more desperate to do so than Tom. For god's sake, Tom cheated on her with Alix Earle OPENLY, and despite everyone at the party having seen this, Candice is apparently still in denial or doesn't care. He's playing in her face but she's hanging on.

And I know there will be people here ready to jump down my throat for all of this but bookmark this post. I'm sure corroborating details will come out at some point. Y'all are really going to deny that Candice's team is the one that called back grid for those Papp photos? lol. I don't like Tom Brady but he does not need the clout. Candice is planting stories about gold rings being engagement rings and then turning around to have her team tell Yahoo that she's not sure/serious about him. It's because she knows the entire industry knows he's been hooking up left and right with every and any model that's willing.

This is pathetic behavior.

So why hasn't Joan released more then? She alluded to wanting to with her less than subtle Instagram stories.

There's no denying the paparazzi photos from outside the office building are staged, and they were called for her Halloween photos from the street and her balcony. For someone who constantly has spoken about privacy and protecting her children, that seems to have gone out the window.

If they wanted to legitimize it, why have the waited until Joan unleashed absolute chaos? They could have done this months ago.

1 hour ago, NotABird said:

This is spot on. I am close friends with a few people in the industry that know Candice (and also know Joan for that matter). From what I hear, people in Candice's camp are worried about Joan sharing details of her relationship with Tom and the way Candice betrayed her fifteen year friendship with Joan for a man. Joan and Tom had been dating for about 8 months and ended their relationship in December. Candice started dating Tom in March. Apparently, Candice was advocating for Joan to not be so engaged in the relationship with Tom and speculated that dating Tom would be boring, he's too American, etc. Fast forward a few months, Candice sneaks in and starts up a relationship with a man that her best friend clearly was romantically invested in at one point.

I'm not that surprised to learn about this. I heard a similar thing happened with a former model friend of hers and Kanye West. Candice and this friend stopped talking after it. She has a pattern of such behavior and has always been fixated with raising her profile, despite her being 'so private'.

The word from people closer to the drama is that Tom is already annoyed by the drama surrounding the Candice and Joan triangle and that he's shown little to no patient in wanting to deal with Candice's anxiety surrounding this. She's trying to legitimize this relationship and is much more desperate to do so than Tom. For god's sake, Tom cheated on her with Alix Earle OPENLY, and despite everyone at the party having seen this, Candice is apparently still in denial or doesn't care. He's playing in her face but she's hanging on.

And I know there will be people here ready to jump down my throat for all of this but bookmark this post. I'm sure corroborating details will come out at some point. Y'all are really going to deny that Candice's team is the one that called back grid for those Papp photos? lol. I don't like Tom Brady but he does not need the clout. Candice is planting stories about gold rings being engagement rings and then turning around to have her team tell Yahoo that she's not sure/serious about him. It's because she knows the entire industry knows he's been hooking up left and right with every and any model that's willing.

This is not a good look for Candice.

Candice got breast implants earlier this year—was it in January or February? Would you happen to know if it was because of Tom?

2 minutes ago, Paul Fernandes said:

Candice got breast implants earlier this year—was it in January or February? Would you happen to know if it was because of Tom?

I honestly don't keep up with Candice enough to have noticed. Is this true? Interesting that she waited this long to do so if true. She didn't start talking to Tom until March of this year from what I understand, so doubt it.

38 minutes ago, db92 said:

She posted the advent calendar video which had already been posted.

If the timeline is correct, he already has cheated on her with Alix Earle.

Unfortunately, I think a big obstacle for Candice is that she has children. I don't think any of the men she has dated before Tom wanted to be a stepfather yet. She said in a podcast during covid that she likes to know what more can men bring to the table because she's capable of providing for herself and her kids. Based on what we know about Pietro, Andres, and Shaffer, I think she was the one doing the heavy lifting. Tom is a different animal. He's on another level to four men she's been with.

So why hasn't Joan released more then? She alluded to wanting to with her less than subtle Instagram stories.

There's no denying the paparazzi photos from outside the office building are staged, and they were called for her Halloween photos from the street and her balcony. For someone who constantly has spoken about privacy and protecting her children, that seems to have gone out the window.

If they wanted to legitimize it, why have the waited until Joan unleashed absolute chaos? They could have done this months ago.

I don't personally know Joan, only know a few people that know her. My guess would be that there may be some cost to her career or personhood to discuss further details at this point but honestly not sure.

In regards to making this relationship legitimate-- I think only Candice has this concern, not so much Tom from what I've heard. Joan didn't speak about it for months so perhaps Candice had no reason to think Joan ever would. It's widely discussed within their circles that Tom has been hooking up with several women while hooking up with Candice. He had no desire to make this public and is still not thrilled about it. The stories her PR team has been planting in the media make it seem like Candice is desperate to make it look like she's being taken seriously by Tom but that she herself is not taking this relationship so seriously (like another user speculated, it would seem this would be to soften the blow for when this inevitably ends).

A small part of me thinks Joan should say her pierce. If your best friend of 15 years helps craft texts for you to send to a f**kboy and is helping you navigate a relationship, encouraging you to break up with this man, etc., and after knowing how invested you were, goes on to start dating him, that is so incredibly foul and says a lot about a person's character. I understand why she's hurt and feels betrayed. But a larger part of me thinks continuing to talk about this would invite people to think that she's still hung up on Tom and that's... embarrassing.

1 hour ago, NotABird said:

این کاملاً درست است. من با چند نفر در این صنعت که کندیس را می‌شناسند (و همچنین جون را هم می‌شناسند) دوست صمیمی هستم. از آنچه شنیده‌ام، افرادی که در اردوگاه کندیس هستند نگرانند که جون جزئیات رابطه‌اش با تام و نحوه خیانت کندیس به دوستی پانزده ساله‌اش با جون به خاطر یک مرد را به اشتراک بگذارد. جون و تام حدود ۸ ماه با هم قرار می‌گذاشتند و رابطه‌شان را در ماه دسامبر به پایان رساندند. کندیس از ماه مارس با تام قرار گذاشت. ظاهراً کندیس از جون می‌خواست که خیلی درگیر رابطه با تام نشود و حدس می‌زد که قرار گذاشتن با تام خسته‌کننده خواهد بود، او خیلی آمریکایی است و غیره. چند ماه بعد، کندیس یواشکی وارد ماجرا می‌شود و با مردی رابطه برقرار می‌کند که مشخصاً بهترین دوستش زمانی به او علاقه‌ی عاشقانه داشته است.

از فهمیدن این موضوع خیلی تعجب نکردم. شنیدم که اتفاق مشابهی برای یکی از دوستان مدل سابقش و کانیه وست افتاده. کندیس و این دوست بعد از آن دیگر با هم حرف نزدند. او الگوی رفتاری مشابهی دارد و همیشه دلش می‌خواسته که خودش را مطرح کند، با اینکه خیلی «خفی‌کار» است.

گفته‌های افرادی که به ماجرا نزدیک‌تر هستند این است که تام از ماجرای مثلث کندیس و جوآن به ستوه آمده و در مواجهه با اضطراب کندیس در این مورد، صبر و شکیبایی چندانی از خود نشان نداده است. کندیس سعی دارد این رابطه را مشروع جلوه دهد و برای این کار بسیار بیشتر از تام تلاش می‌کند. به خاطر خدا، تام آشکارا با آلیکس ارل به او خیانت کرده است و با وجود اینکه همه در مهمانی این را دیده‌اند، کندیس ظاهراً هنوز در حال انکار است یا اهمیتی نمی‌دهد. تام دارد بی‌اعتنا به کندیس رفتار می‌کند اما او همچنان به رابطه‌اش ادامه می‌دهد.

و می‌دانم اینجا افرادی هستند که حاضرند برای همه این حرف‌ها از من ایراد بگیرند، اما این پست را بوک‌مارک کنید. مطمئنم جزئیات تأییدکننده بالاخره منتشر خواهد شد. واقعاً می‌خواهید انکار کنید که تیم کندیس همان تیمی بود که برای عکس‌های پاپ با او تماس گرفت؟ خخخ. من از تام بردی خوشم نمی‌آید، اما او به این نفوذ نیازی ندارد. کندیس دارد داستان‌هایی در مورد حلقه‌های طلا به عنوان حلقه نامزدی می‌بافد و بعد برمی‌گردد تا تیمش به یاهو بگوید که در مورد او مطمئن/جدی نیست. به این دلیل است که او می‌داند کل صنعت مد می‌داند که او چپ و راست با هر مدلی که مایل بوده، در ارتباط بوده است.

این ظاهر خوبی برای کندیس نیست.

If you can't explain further here, make a post on Candice's fan page on Reddit, or send me a message.

13 minutes ago, NotABird said:

I honestly don't keep up with Candice enough to have noticed. Is this true? Interesting that she waited this long to do so if true. She didn't start talking to Tom until March of this year from what I understand, so doubt it.

Yes, she got silicone implants

45 minutes ago, db92 said:

There's no denying the paparazzi photos from outside the office building are staged, and they were called for her Halloween photos from the street and her balcony. For someone who constantly has spoken about privacy and protecting her children, that seems to have gone out the window.

I've also always thought Candice to be an incredibly private person as she is a model who I know very little about despite being relatively more popular than other models. She barely speaks and is very plain/vanilla in how she comes across. What I find interesting is that multiple people have said that she's pulled similar shit to this joan/tom thing with other model friends and their famous partners in the past (namely Kanye West, I don't know the model he was dating at the time). There has been speculation for a long time that she was very unhappy with Hermann and thought of herself as superior to him.

I used to roll my eyes at the Adriana stans on bellazon that would point out that Candice tended to gravitate towards models she felt more successful than (Behati) or towards models that were well beyond her years (such as Gisele). I'm starting to see a picture come together based on what I've been hearing as of late. I also think there's some credibility to the rumors I used to hear about Candice wanting to follow in Gisele's footsteps/be seen with the same esteem. She's carving that path but she doesn't bring the personality or presence.

It's also said that Gisele and Candice went to the Bahamas in 2020 on vacation. So that in itself is sketchy, because now you're with this woman's ex husband? Big yikes.

Honestly, I think that Candice should hope that Joan doesn't go on a podcast or say her piece because I don't think Candice would ever be able to respond or communicate effectively in a long format interview. I've never seen her speak beyond those short VS interviews where she answers what her favorite VS make up product is. Has she done a long interview before?

2 minutes ago, Paul Fernandes said:

Yes, she got silicone implants

In case you hadn't noticed, she also got butt implants

4 minutes ago, NotABird said:

من همیشه فکر می‌کردم کندیس فردی فوق‌العاده تودار است، چون مدلی است که با وجود محبوبیت نسبی‌اش نسبت به مدل‌های دیگر، اطلاعات خیلی کمی در موردش دارم. او به ندرت صحبت می‌کند و خیلی ساده و معمولی به نظر می‌رسد. چیزی که برایم جالب است این است که چندین نفر گفته‌اند که او در گذشته با دیگر دوستان مدل و شرکای معروفشان (مثلاً کانیه وست، نمی‌دانم در آن زمان با چه مدلی قرار می‌گذاشت) همین رابطه‌ی جوآن/تام را داشته است. مدت‌هاست که گمانه‌زنی‌هایی وجود دارد مبنی بر اینکه او از هرمان بسیار ناراضی بوده و خودش را برتر از او می‌دانسته است.

قبلاً از نظرات آدریانا در وبلاگ bellazon که اشاره می‌کرد کندیس به سمت مدل‌هایی که احساس موفقیت بیشتری نسبت به آنها دارد (مثل بهاتی) یا مدل‌هایی که از سنش خیلی بالاتر بودند (مثل ژیزل) گرایش پیدا می‌کند، چشم‌هایم گرد می‌شد. بر اساس چیزهایی که اخیراً شنیده‌ام، کم‌کم دارم تصویری از او می‌بینم که در حال شکل‌گیری است. همچنین فکر می‌کنم شایعاتی که قبلاً در مورد کندیس می‌شنیدم که می‌خواهد جا پای ژیزل بگذارد/با همان احترام دیده شود، تا حدودی درست است. او دارد آن مسیر را طی می‌کند اما شخصیت یا حضور ژیزل را به ارمغان نمی‌آورد.

همچنین گفته می‌شود که ژیزل و کندیس در سال ۲۰۲۰ برای تعطیلات به باهاما رفته‌اند. بنابراین این به خودی خود کمی مبهم است، چون حالا شما با شوهر سابق این زن هستید؟ وای!

راستش را بخواهید، فکر می‌کنم کندیس باید امیدوار باشد که جوآن در پادکست شرکت نکند یا حرف‌هایش را نزند، چون فکر نمی‌کنم کندیس هرگز بتواند در یک مصاحبه طولانی به طور مؤثر پاسخ دهد یا ارتباط برقرار کند. من هرگز ندیده‌ام که او فراتر از آن مصاحبه‌های کوتاه VS که در آنها به محصول آرایشی مورد علاقه‌اش در VS پاسخ می‌دهد، صحبت کند. آیا او قبلاً مصاحبه طولانی انجام داده است؟

Do you also have any news about Candice separating from Hermann?

Just now, Badobaran said:

Do you also have any news about Candice separating from Hermann?

The only thing I've heard regarding Hermann is that he and Candice had a severely tumultuous relationship and he was a source of conflict between Candice and her parents. There have been rumors that she felt she could do better than him and often voiced as much to friends.

I don't know much more about Candice and Hermann .

Has anyone noticed the changes in Candice’s personality? If you compare the *Vogue* video—the one filmed at the hotel—with her latest interview for VS, it’s as if she has changed She is no longer that innocent angel; she has developed a Machiavellian personality

Can one of you tell me why Candice still insists on being so close to Ali Kavoussi? Has she ever commented on his very deep Epstein connections? (reddit link below). He is objectively a nefarious man.

Why does Candice see no issues with this?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/s/ovoUmRVULQ

5 minutes ago, NotABird said:

The only thing I've heard regarding Hermann is that he and Candice had a severely tumultuous relationship and he was a source of conflict between Candice and her parents. There have been rumors that she felt she could do better than him and often voiced as much to friends.

I don't know much more about Candice and Hermann .

Do you know anything about Candice and Kanye or Candice and Harry Styles?

Sorry to hit you like this but you've entered a domain of people thirsty for that Candice lore 😚

3 minutes ago, NotABird said:

Can one of you tell me why Candice still insists on being so close to Ali Kavoussi? Has she ever commented on his very deep Epstein connections? (reddit link below). He is objectively a nefarious man.

Why does Candice see no issues with this?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/s/ovoUmRVULQ

He knew her from a very young age, they have a post about it, he brought her to the United States, I think he was her agent very early in her career, I think he met her when she was 17? They have a post about it but I can't remember exactly, Ali was her agent during her first VS show I think

7 minutes ago, NotABird said:

میشه یکی از شما به من بگه چرا کندیس هنوز اصرار داره که اینقدر به علی کاووسی نزدیک باشه؟ منظورم اینه که این مرد دوست خیلی صمیمی اپستین بود (لینک ردیت در زیر). او به طور عینی مرد شروری است.

چرا کندیس هیچ مشکلی در این موضوع نمی‌بیند؟

https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/s/ovoUmRVULQ

Ali is Iranian. As far as I know, he’s too dim-witted to get involved in things like this. However, some have said that when Candice was on a boat with a wealthy man named Helly Nahmad, it was Ali who introduced them. It’s possible that Ali is involved in connecting wealthy men with escorts, but he’s actually a good person and Candice’s oldest friend

1 hour ago, NotABird said:

Can one of you tell me why Candice still insists on being so close to Ali Kavoussi? Has she ever commented on his very deep Epstein connections? (reddit link below). He is objectively a nefarious man.

Why does Candice see no issues with this?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/s/ovoUmRVULQ

1 hour ago, ItalianMuffinMaker said:

He knew her from a very young age, they have a post about it, he brought her to the United States, I think he was her agent very early in her career, I think he met her when she was 17? They have a post about it but I can't remember exactly, Ali was her agent during her first VS show I think

Just saw the post, he met her when she was 16, Candice debuted at VS when she 19, so they go back a really long time

6 hours ago, ItalianMuffinMaker said:

You shouldn't let small things bother you so much

Anyways, can anybody tell me what MissPadilla posted that got deleted, I totally missed it

I don't know what to believe 😁 People talking about what they think of a situation can be a lot different than what is actually happening, disappointing that more about this story hasn't come out, it's nice to get a break though 😁

The advent calendar by VS on TikTok, I didn't notice it was already out my bad.

5 hours ago, NotABird said:

I've also always thought Candice to be an incredibly private person as she is a model who I know very little about despite being relatively more popular than other models. She barely speaks and is very plain/vanilla in how she comes across. What I find interesting is that multiple people have said that she's pulled similar shit to this joan/tom thing with other model friends and their famous partners in the past (namely Kanye West, I don't know the model he was dating at the time). There has been speculation for a long time that she was very unhappy with Hermann and thought of herself as superior to him.

I used to roll my eyes at the Adriana stans on bellazon that would point out that Candice tended to gravitate towards models she felt more successful than (Behati) or towards models that were well beyond her years (such as Gisele). I'm starting to see a picture come together based on what I've been hearing as of late. I also think there's some credibility to the rumors I used to hear about Candice wanting to follow in Gisele's footsteps/be seen with the same esteem. She's carving that path but she doesn't bring the personality or presence.

It's also said that Gisele and Candice went to the Bahamas in 2020 on vacation. So that in itself is sketchy, because now you're with this woman's ex husband? Big yikes.

Honestly, I think that Candice should hope that Joan doesn't go on a podcast or say her piece because I don't think Candice would ever be able to respond or communicate effectively in a long format interview. I've never seen her speak beyond those short VS interviews where she answers what her favorite VS make up product is. Has she done a long interview before?

Candice went to Bahamas to shoot with David Roemer, not with Gisele. I doubt they ever met each other.

She shot Madame Figaro and Tropic of C with Roemer there.

https://www.ateliermanagement.com/news/photography-by-david-roemer-for-madame-figaro-with-candice-swanepoel

3 hours ago, MissPadilla said:

Candice went to Bahamas to shoot with David Roemer, not with Gisele. I doubt they ever met each other.

She shot Madame Figaro and Tropic of C with Roemer there.

https://www.ateliermanagement.com/news/photography-by-david-roemer-for-madame-figaro-with-candice-swanepoel

With respect, models can go to a destination multiple times within their lifetime.

What I’ve heard from multiple people that know her is that she was interested in developing a friendship and closer relationship with Gisele during that time. And they’ve claimed that they vacationed together in the Bahamas.

Also want to point out, look how few photos have been out of Candice and Tom. When celebrities want to keep things private or not be photographed, they’ll often find a way. My understanding is that there are plenty of private islands in the Bahamas.

I’m not suggesting that the two were best friends. I think it may even be the case that Gisele doesn’t care about what’s happening in Tom’s life or that she’s dating him. But I don’t see a reason for multiple people that know her to say they vacationed together if they didn’t.

9 hours ago, ItalianMuffinMaker said:

Do you know anything about Candice and Kanye or Candice and Harry Styles?

Sorry to hit you like this but you've entered a domain of people thirsty for that Candice lore 😚

The Kanye thing. What I have heard is that Ali leaked that relationship and Candice didn’t immediately want it out. Candice was apparently upset about her parents learning she was dating someone black because she felt they would be disappointed in her. I’ve heard from several that her parents are racist, which isn’t that hard for me to believe given the South Africa context and her mother’s social media following.

The more troubling thing with the Kanye angle is that apparently before he started dating Candice, he was dating another close friend of hers. Not going to say the name but she was growing closer to Kanye and really liked him (had not hooked up with him yet). She confided in Candice about it and asked Candice for advice. Candice encouraged her to stop seeing him and three months later, Candice started talking to him. This person confronted Candice and Candice started playing victim (which is my understanding of what she did with Joan too, repeatedly). She blamed it on Ali and her life being complicated.

Harry and her relationship was very short from what I’ve heard. The story is that her wanted to keep their dating private because it was very early. Candice’s people leaked it anyway. He sent her a long message saying he noticed and didn’t like it. She blamed it on a gay friend of hers and apologized but from what I’ve heard, Harry stopped talking to her over it.

The Kanye and Tom occurrences are especially sad because what I’ve heard from others is that when she was confronted, by the anonymous person and by Joan respectively, she didn’t deny any of the wrongdoing but basically tried to excuse it/justify it. With Joan I’ve heard she reported to say she didn’t know Tom and her were serious. But not sure how that flies when your friend was confiding in you and dated this man for 8 months.

All of this is from people that know her very well. None of what I attest to as personally having witnessed.