January 5, 20232 yr 5 minutes ago, Enrico_sw said: You can't see the forest for the trees. Who cares if some random trolls on the internet complained about a comic? There are lots of morons on the planet, they have zero influence. Journalists, teachers and professors have influence. This teacher (like many others) explains factually that at school, teachers are told "the basic tactics are to assume racism is everywhere every day" (it's a quote, check it for yourself - at 7:45). This is fuel for hatred. Why is it so hard to understand? Why is it so difficult to criticize something that comes from the woke movement? The inability to criticize a movement is the mark that society is on a totalitarian drift. I am not talking about randos on the internet but actual school boards voting to ban those things...
January 5, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, SympathysSilhouette said: I am not talking about randos on the internet but actual school boards voting to ban those things... If school board ban a theory that says "the basic tactics are to assume racism is everywhere every day", it's great. This is fuel for hatred. Bullying small children and telling them that their skin color is a problem is fuel for disaster. CRT is promoting segregation.
January 5, 20232 yr Look at facts. In details. Look at the Grievance study affair, Jon Haidt's work on American universities, what happened to Bret Weinstein at Evergreen, etc.
January 5, 20232 yr CRT, wokism and all these theories are molded from hatred. Did the world get more peaceful since their spreading? No. Quite the opposite. Look at the discussions here, we used to be more peaceful and friendly before the Woke sect spread its fuel for hatred.
January 5, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, Enrico_sw said: If school board ban a theory that says "the basic tactics are to assume racism is everywhere every day", it's great. This is fuel for hatred. Bullying small children and telling them that their skin color is a problem is fuel for disaster. CRT is promoting segregation. So you think Maus and Norman Rockwell's The Problem We All Live With are worthy of being banned?
January 5, 20232 yr Just now, SympathysSilhouette said: So you think Maus and Norman Rockwell's The Problem We All Live With are worthy of being banned? No. Stop putting words in my mouth. I have never said that. These sophisms are extremely cheap. Read what I write, don't invent things.
January 5, 20232 yr When people realize that the woke nonsense can't be rationally defended, they invent straw man arguments...
January 5, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Enrico_sw said: No. Stop putting words in my mouth. I have never said that. These sophisms are extremely cheap. Read what I write, don't invent things. I am talking about concrete, real-life consequences of anti-CRT campaigns. You only seem interested in discussing this in abstract terms.
January 5, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Enrico_sw said: When people realize that the woke nonsense can't be rationally defended, they invent straw man arguments... What exactly is woke about teaching kids about the Holocaust or Ruby Bridges? So these things should be omitted from the curriculum?
January 5, 20232 yr If you want to defend your theories, be more thoughtful, more factual, more peaceful, less "ad personam" attacks. You used to be smarter before you went on a path to defend woke theories.
January 5, 20232 yr Just now, SympathysSilhouette said: What exactly is woke about teaching kids about the Holocaust or Ruby Bridges? Read what I wrote. This is not about the Holocaust or Ruby bridges. This is about "assuming everything is racist" and asking for kids to apologize for their skin color.
January 5, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, SympathysSilhouette said: I am talking about concrete, real-life consequences of anti-CRT campaigns. You only seem interested in discussing this in abstract terms. No, you are not. You are inventing things I never said. What I wrote is very concrete if you actually read it...
January 5, 20232 yr Just now, Enrico_sw said: Read what I wrote. This is not about the Holocaust or Ruby bridges. This is about "assuming everything is racist" and asking for kids to apologize for their skin color. You will not address my points. The two examples I gave were banned because of anti-CRT movements in those school boards. They are literally examples tied pushback against CRT!
January 5, 20232 yr Just now, SympathysSilhouette said: You will not address my points. The two examples I gave were banned because of anti-CRT movements in those school boards. They are literally examples tied pushback against CRT! You will not address my points either. I put the subject on the table first, yet you deflect and bring points I didn't bring.
January 5, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Enrico_sw said: No, you are not. You are inventing things I never said. What I wrote is very concrete if you actually read it... What is more concrete than talking about things that were actually banned at schools because they were perceived as CRT? Like I said before, you only seem interested in talking about this in broad abstract terms and not in terms of the micro, real-life consequences. Which I find much more important in this entire debate.
January 5, 20232 yr Just now, Enrico_sw said: You will not address my points either. I put the subject on the table first, yet you deflect and bring points I didn't bring. You are the one who started talking about CRT. I gave examples of stuff that were banned because they were thought to be CRT. I don't know what more to tell you.
January 5, 20232 yr Teaching about the Holocaust is extremely important. If you actually read history books about nazism, you'll see the proximities between Woke tactics and their propaganda. In books about Goebbels and Gramsci, you'll find very interesting themes. Nazis and communist propaganda are extremely similar. The tactics is to bring fuel for division and call anyone that wants to bring nuance an extremist. Woke ideology is bad news for the world. History has shown this multiple times.
January 5, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, SympathysSilhouette said: You are the one who started talking about CRT. I gave examples of stuff that were banned because they were thought to be CRT. I don't know what more to tell you. I gave many examples. Have you listened to the teacher that thoroughly explains what happens in her school with CRT? This is very concrete
January 5, 20232 yr We have never been as divided as we are since these woke ideologies spread everywhere (circa 2018). So, is it really worth it? What do they bring except hatred and the end of nuanced debates?
January 5, 20232 yr So if teaching about the Holocaust is important, what is the anti-CRT case for banning Maus?
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