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I totally agree with you, Eos! I believe she did mention in one of the interviews or articles, that she indeed was a bad student and yes, that was due to the fact that she was staying at home with her sister and working with mom. My opinion is that if she had a chance she'd ace in many classes (maybe not physics and math but many nevertheless!) These days it seems that whatever she does, she puts a lot of energy and concentration into it. Maybe she grew these habits later than majority of kids with stable families but she did! and did it so excellently. And yes, you are right, some credit should go to the people surrounding her - mainly Justin and his family, but most of the credit is hers as it is difficult to be self-educating in your 20s.

as for the language - it is totally possible to start forgetting your mother tongue. Heck, I have experienced that myself ;)

LOL, what are u talking about? You can forget native language if u left ur country when you were small, 3-11 years old. She left when she was 18 or about that. Or she has poor mamory. And it's not like she forgot her language,her speach is quite primitive. I finished linguistic university and i "kinda" know what i'm talking about. It's pretty hard for ME to express myself in English cause it's not my native language & my english sucks as you noticed. Anyway, Vodianova didn't forget the russian language,she simply can't "build"

correct sentences.

well, as you seem to be an absolute expert in EVERYTHING, I will not argue with you. I only speak for myself. I immigrated to USA from Russia when I was 23 and for a number of years could not afford to have a phone line to speak with my family in Russia. I can tell you that when I went home for a visit I sounded "косноязычно, топорно" (could not "build' my sentences for sure) and I have graduated with a language degree in Russia as well and most of my family is in hard science. So this is an example from my personal experience. I have to admit I was seeking improving my English in any way I could and did not hang out with any russian people in the US. This is the reason why I see parallels with Natalia's situation (that she probably encounters many more situations where English is spoken). However, Russian did come back to me but through a substantial effort at first and then much easier. Salute!

есть такое понятие-начитанность. вот,про что я говорю. это не только знание,но и правильно поставленная речь. Водянова косноязычная. Она в школе не училась,не читала и общалась с такими же как она. Отсюда и выводы.

пы.сы. и не хами,пож. (я про твое 1-ое предложение)

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I totally agree with you, Eos! I believe she did mention in one of the interviews or articles, that she indeed was a bad student and yes, that was due to the fact that she was staying at home with her sister and working with mom. My opinion is that if she had a chance she'd ace in many classes (maybe not physics and math but many nevertheless!) These days it seems that whatever she does, she puts a lot of energy and concentration into it. Maybe she grew these habits later than majority of kids with stable families but she did! and did it so excellently. And yes, you are right, some credit should go to the people surrounding her - mainly Justin and his family, but most of the credit is hers as it is difficult to be self-educating in your 20s.

as for the language - it is totally possible to start forgetting your mother tongue. Heck, I have experienced that myself ;)

LOL, what are u talking about? You can forget native language if u left ur country when you were small, 3-11 years old. She left when she was 18 or about that. Or she has poor mamory. And it's not like she forgot her language,her speach is quite primitive. I finished linguistic university and i "kinda" know what i'm talking about. It's pretty hard for ME to express myself in English cause it's not my native language & my english sucks as you noticed. Anyway, Vodianova didn't forget the russian language,she simply can't "build"

correct sentences.

well, as you seem to be an absolute expert in EVERYTHING, I will not argue with you. I only speak for myself. I immigrated to USA from Russia when I was 23 and for a number of years could not afford to have a phone line to speak with my family in Russia. I can tell you that when I went home for a visit I sounded "косноязычно, топорно" (could not "build' my sentences for sure) and I have graduated with a language degree in Russia as well and most of my family is in hard science. So this is an example from my personal experience. I have to admit I was seeking improving my English in any way I could and did not hang out with any russian people in the US. This is the reason why I see parallels with Natalia's situation (that she probably encounters many more situations where English is spoken). However, Russian did come back to me but through a substantial effort at first and then much easier. Salute!

ditto in here pautinka. brain gets rid of everything that isn't used on daily bases.i left russia when i was 16 and now I can barely speak 'native russian'.

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I totally agree with you, Eos! I believe she did mention in one of the interviews or articles, that she indeed was a bad student and yes, that was due to the fact that she was staying at home with her sister and working with mom. My opinion is that if she had a chance she'd ace in many classes (maybe not physics and math but many nevertheless!) These days it seems that whatever she does, she puts a lot of energy and concentration into it. Maybe she grew these habits later than majority of kids with stable families but she did! and did it so excellently. And yes, you are right, some credit should go to the people surrounding her - mainly Justin and his family, but most of the credit is hers as it is difficult to be self-educating in your 20s.

as for the language - it is totally possible to start forgetting your mother tongue. Heck, I have experienced that myself ;)

LOL, what are u talking about? You can forget native language if u left ur country when you were small, 3-11 years old. She left when she was 18 or about that. Or she has poor mamory. And it's not like she forgot her language,her speach is quite primitive. I finished linguistic university and i "kinda" know what i'm talking about. It's pretty hard for ME to express myself in English cause it's not my native language & my english sucks as you noticed. Anyway, Vodianova didn't forget the russian language,she simply can't "build"

correct sentences.

well, as you seem to be an absolute expert in EVERYTHING, I will not argue with you. I only speak for myself. I immigrated to USA from Russia when I was 23 and for a number of years could not afford to have a phone line to speak with my family in Russia. I can tell you that when I went home for a visit I sounded "косноязычно, топорно" (could not "build' my sentences for sure) and I have graduated with a language degree in Russia as well and most of my family is in hard science. So this is an example from my personal experience. I have to admit I was seeking improving my English in any way I could and did not hang out with any russian people in the US. This is the reason why I see parallels with Natalia's situation (that she probably encounters many more situations where English is spoken). However, Russian did come back to me but through a substantial effort at first and then much easier. Salute!

есть такое понятие-начитанность. вот,про что я говорю. это не только знание,но и правильно поставленная речь. Водянова косноязычная. Она в школе не училась,не читала и общалась с такими же как она. Отсюда и выводы.

пы.сы. и не хами,пож. (я про твое 1-ое предложение)

я бы была очень признательна, если бы в ответ было тоже. Это я насчет хамства. Все твои заметки полны язвы и,кстати, все твои выводы говогрят больше о тебе, чем о Наталии. прочти это и постарайся подумать.

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So it appears one can indeed forget one's first language. :( I guess that can happen, I wouldn't know, lol. I don't see myself in a non English speaking country in the forseeable future.

Anyway, I was just wondering... since to become a member at TFS, we need to be invited, whether anyone here who's a member at both places can invite some of us? :blush: Because, you know, the environment there seems SO MUCH better and more decorous and models can't be dissed in threads and so on... And there's also a lot of stuff posted ther which isn't posted here. It'll also channel more traffic to Natalia's thread there, which can't be a bad thing, right? Just was thinking...

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I totally agree with you, Eos! I believe she did mention in one of the interviews or articles, that she indeed was a bad student and yes, that was due to the fact that she was staying at home with her sister and working with mom. My opinion is that if she had a chance she'd ace in many classes (maybe not physics and math but many nevertheless!) These days it seems that whatever she does, she puts a lot of energy and concentration into it. Maybe she grew these habits later than majority of kids with stable families but she did! and did it so excellently. And yes, you are right, some credit should go to the people surrounding her - mainly Justin and his family, but most of the credit is hers as it is difficult to be self-educating in your 20s.

as for the language - it is totally possible to start forgetting your mother tongue. Heck, I have experienced that myself ;)

LOL, what are u talking about? You can forget native language if u left ur country when you were small, 3-11 years old. She left when she was 18 or about that. Or she has poor mamory. And it's not like she forgot her language,her speach is quite primitive. I finished linguistic university and i "kinda" know what i'm talking about. It's pretty hard for ME to express myself in English cause it's not my native language & my english sucks as you noticed. Anyway, Vodianova didn't forget the russian language,she simply can't "build"

correct sentences.

well, as you seem to be an absolute expert in EVERYTHING, I will not argue with you. I only speak for myself. I immigrated to USA from Russia when I was 23 and for a number of years could not afford to have a phone line to speak with my family in Russia. I can tell you that when I went home for a visit I sounded "косноязычно, топорно" (could not "build' my sentences for sure) and I have graduated with a language degree in Russia as well and most of my family is in hard science. So this is an example from my personal experience. I have to admit I was seeking improving my English in any way I could and did not hang out with any russian people in the US. This is the reason why I see parallels with Natalia's situation (that she probably encounters many more situations where English is spoken). However, Russian did come back to me but through a substantial effort at first and then much easier. Salute!

есть такое понятие-начитанность. вот,про что я говорю. это не только знание,но и правильно поставленная речь. Водянова косноязычная. Она в школе не училась,не читала и общалась с такими же как она. Отсюда и выводы.

пы.сы. и не хами,пож. (я про твое 1-ое предложение)

я бы была очень признательна, если бы в ответ было тоже. Это я насчет хамства. Все твои заметки полны язвы и,кстати, все твои выводы говогрят больше о тебе, чем о Наталии. прочти это и постарайся подумать.

а где написано,ч то нужно писать только "ооо,какие классные фотыыы!!" ГДЕ? я высказываю свое мнение, а тебе советую не указывать,что мне делать. я те не указываю и на личности НЕ перехожу,как это делаешь ТЫ,уважаемая :whistle:

раз уж на то пошло,то это ты начала "а ты,а ты". мы тут не про меня,а про Водянову.

пы.сы. надеюсь,мы друг друга поняли

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