Ludivine08

pretty unapropriate to let a 16 yr old walk a lingerie show. Officially you are still a child at 16. That would not happen again I think nowadays. I do understand why a lot of models have children earlier than 'normal people'. They start modelling around 15/16, so by the time they are 25 they already lived a whole live, and are already at the top of their career, or are past it, while normal people are only starting. Starting a family seems like the next step.

https://www.google.nl/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAcQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fvsholic.com%2Fgallery%2F2000%2F&ei=GdxIVPOdDMi3PMDugPAP&bvm=bv.77880786,d.ZWU&psig=AFQjCNHLEYOeHnIUMNayd0yvsSUo8B3oYQ&ust=1414147256679198 Omg How could I forget, of course KK walked in 2000. I know alle the shows, so that is stupid of me to forget . But KK said she walked her first show when she was 17, that's weird. The shows are in november and she was born in februari '84. So she was 16 in the show of 2000.

KK walked in VS show in 2001

there is a difference in walking the show and becoming an angel again. Perpaps it is possible that Miranda will walk the show again one day, but to wear the FB bra is something else. And to become an angel again seems impossible to me. Izabel hasn't come back, she never went away. Sometimes models skip a year in walking the show, but they still are under contract. Cara in 2013, could that be a sort of sign VS is giving us. (I hope not).

But Miranda's contract wasn't renewed. Impossible to come back, at least in such a short time. When they leave, they really leave. Or it's a publicity stunt haha.

LOL really forgot about Lindsay. yeah could be, but indeed VS was defin promoting Behati. I guess it has a lot to do with popularity. Behati's engagement with that certain guy is interesting for them (I wonder what happens if/when they split up). Same was with Miranda. Lindsay didn't get that much screening time if I remember correctly. Erin H. isn't an angel anymore is she?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the youngest model to ever grace the cover of Vogue was Gemma Ward She later became the youngest model to appear on the cover of the American edition of Vogue, later appearing on the covers of both Teen Vogue (age 16) Yes but in 2001, 17 yrs old, Karolina was the youngest model ever to be on the cover of the American Vogue, then in 2004 Gemma was.

or Tyra lol

I woudn't be suprised if they would let a high profile but non-angel model wear the FB now or in the future. But still, they have no reason to, if Behati and Lily are there. Probably Behati will become a leading angel, when the older crew (Ale, Adr, Doutz) is going to retire.

Karolina in 2002 was probably an exception. She wasn't an angel yet, but defin a supermodel and the youngest model ever on the cover on Vogue. So she was at the top and VS had big plans with her. But they are more likely to let non-angels wear a FB today, judging from how many models they hire to walk in the show and how fast models can become angels, and how 'nobodies' can become an angel anyway. That wasn't possible back then.

^ Nooooooooooooooooooo please God noooo

^ I believe that's called having 2 kids if memory serves me right She's going to be 30 in few months. It has more to do with that than kids. Not everyone has a pact with devil like Adriana Lima. No I don't think getting children in itself has something to do with it. And yes she will be 30, but some people are 29 without any line in their face. I think it's the quite serious weightloss after pregnancy 2 times. It was the same with Karolina Kurkova. After her pregancy she lost a LOT of weight. When she was 17 she was very thin, then early twenties gained a bit of weight which gave her amazing curves. Then after her child lost a lot of weight and she aged a lot in her face in a very short period. And who knows, perhaps Lima gets botox. And she might age in a different way. Her face is more harsh now. When she was younger her face was really round and full. I completely agree. When you lose weight too fast you lose natural collagen and fat in the face and the area around the eyes once you lose it its pretty much gone for good. She's still gorgeous though. Lol @ Adriana having a pact with the devil. Its mind blowing how she hasn't aged like at all. Lima does not get botox, if she did she would look like that disaster Megan Fox. Anyways, let's hope Doutzen gets the fb!!!! Well don't believe if its gone for good. You have to gain weight first again. Your body has to find balance and recover, you could get the collagen back. And you don't have to look like Megan Fox if you use botox, only if you use it too much. Some celebrities use it only in small proportion so you can't really see it. It's such a SHAME what Fox has done to herself. She was a very cute and beautiful girl, then she became a sex bom, and you could she she had some things done to her face, but she still looked norma, or should I say fake in a good way. Then she went overboard and now looks like an alien.

I agree. Her mother is really beautiful but she has a lot of wrinkles. I saw a picture of Doutzen in very high resolution when she was around 25, just after birth of her 1st child. She already had lines around her eyes a bit. Btw I always though Doutzen has the lips and nose of her father and the width and shape of her face of her mothers.

Stillll Doutzen most deserves it. How long does she have to keep waiting for it. I already thought it was unfair that Miranda got the FB earlier, because she started VS one year later then Doutzen. Yes she became angel 1 year earlier, but I also thought that was unfair (although I know Doutzen didn't walk the show in 2007, and if she did perhaps could have been an angel already). But if someone else is going to wear it, I'd rather want Behati to wear it, more than Lily. One ONE CONDITION. Please don't let Adam Levine be in de crowd cheering, and if he is there, don't film him.

^ I believe that's called having 2 kids if memory serves me right She's going to be 30 in few months. It has more to do with that than kids. Not everyone has a pact with devil like Adriana Lima. No I don't think getting children in itself has something to do with it. And yes she will be 30, but some people are 29 without any line in their face. I think it's the quite serious weightloss after pregnancy 2 times. It was the same with Karolina Kurkova. After her pregancy she lost a LOT of weight. When she was 17 she was very thin, then early twenties gained a bit of weight which gave her amazing curves. Then after her child lost a lot of weight and she aged a lot in her face in a very short period. And who knows, perhaps Lima gets botox. And she might age in a different way. Her face is more harsh now. When she was younger her face was really round and full.

I love their non descriptive answer next tweet: how soon?

I agree, too many angles and it goes to fast. but most often it isn't even 6 seconds. The editing is so fast you hardly have time to see the outfits. Last few times I watched it went so fast, I couldn't remember what I saw, I had to rewatch on youtube and pause it all to time, because I actually want to see the outfits.

Perhaps the influence of all that commercial work with Victoria Secret etc. I always liked Doutzen more really early in her carreer. You probably know the Frysian documentary about her in 2005 I think it was. There she really is a sweet, honest person before her big fame. Back then she feel more authentic and real to me.

Sunnery is like the hottest guy ever.

no modelling is not more difficult than acting, otherwise all the models would be famous actresses. Don't make modelling more than what it is.

Oooh yes, remember you were talking about that earlier in this discussion.

the lingerie itself coudn't be slutty, because that is what they show anyway. But I always think a veil or some sort of elements of a dress as an outfit would look slutty. Don't know why but it just feels wrong.

we're so close They should have saved that Britain theme of 2013, you know Taylor Swift in a dress with the Union Flag, for this year. That would have been appropriate, or would it be lame.

I don't mean movies in general, but specifically a Bond movie.

I meant a bride theme, wedding theme sounds weird.