Ludivine08

God sorry, i misread.

But she did walk the show in 2010, not as an angel, but 'just' a model.

Las Vegas is a NO for me

No sorry can't understand it, especially when they speak fast. But I noticed that with subtitles (like on tv it is easier)

Amazing video about 2005. Hashtag nostalgia.

That can't be right. Emanuela was in the 2010 show, and I thinik also te 2011.

I totally agree. You can never tell in which city it is. This year I do have to give them credits to film more of the location inside, but they didn't put anything french in the segments. They didn't do a Parisian theme. Actually the the Parisian nights segment in 2013 should have been done this year.

Ok, so this is my question to you all. In which city you would like the next show to be in (no matter what VS already said they wan or going to do.....). My city is Rome.

Amazing sketches, I love them'1

They should do the show in Rome!! That would be great. I always hope for an outdoor show, that would make it romantic. But in winter, the temperature is not high enough I guess.

Yes Wild Things but I liked Emanuela da Paula coming out of The jungle with a bunch of Tarzan dudes. It was more of an epic moment than an epic outfit bc she wasn't wearing much. I think It was perhaps not the most epic moments, but certainly one of the moments. I have a hard time choosing when It comes down to VSFS

I think 2007 was still great concerning Adriana's behaviour.

Haha the gif

Sometimes I get a bit tired how the age of a model will always be emphasized. Like Adriana, age 35, but still gorgeous, can still do this or that.

With thin I meant size 4, 6, 8, (and if they have a very small size they should have it naturylly and not by starving themselves) I wasn't talking about sticks and bones. I meant that often you hear women say they want fuller figures on the runway, but in reality it doens't look that good because women want a more some ideal to aspire to. What I also mean to say that is oke to be any size, but that people in general want that ideal body on the runway, even though they say they don't. So that is why I partly dislike how people are bashing models or are saying the true woman is a size 10 or 12 and should be on the runway. (In general I think the model today is in general too thin. I like to see more of a size 6 on the runway) With saying a model who has an A cup shouldn't model for lingerie, you are doing the same you accuse the people of who say women who are fat shouldn't model. A woman with cup A is still 100% a woman. Cup A can be very beautiful and can be totally in proportion with her body. It should be celebrated, so she should model lingerie. Quite offending you compare it to a male. SI models are generally not much bigger. Marisa MIller was about a size 2 with cup D. Most models are not bigger than a size 4 but generally have bigger boobs and curves, that is why they model for SI. It's an illusion that SI models are really much fuller. A lot of models that model for VS also do SI btw.

Lol a lot of people say they want to see normal women on the runway but that Just is not True. Even if they are denyjng ir, they want to see thin women on the runway.

And there are great remixes, and the show is more a fashion show instead of a pop concert where the performers is the central figure. There is higher energy, models walk a bit faster, less blowing kisses and 'making out' with the performers

Yes I do think so. Especially Candice.

No, but her 'fuller' weight suits her more. Accentuates her curves better.

Esla reminds me a bit of the painting of Leonardo da Vinci Botticelli (oops). Although her face is more symmetrical and more perfect. It's the angelic characteristics.

I was thinking Elsa looked thinner than previous years.

Here generally people also have that opinion, bc Dutch women aren't that thin, and also often say you should eat something. French and Italian women are usually way more petite. But I think at the same time people unconsiously what to see that skinny person and an unattainable standard, although they might say otherwise. People tend to aspire to an untainable standard or put that on a pedestal, and VS knows that. I also think VS wants to especially target young girls/ women so are much more influenced by the beautiful ideal. That is what I meant with that the VS viewer is model obsessed I don't disagree with you that a lot of people have different opinions about what is beautiful and healthy. And perhaps most of the audience whats to see fuller figures, personally I do. What I am trying to say is that VS is not going to do that, although the majority wants to see that. VS is not going to give the public what they want, but wants to keep that certain 'skinny yet 'healthy' yet curvy model' at runway so they can make themselves more exclusive or something. That is a bit how fashion works. The fashion indrustry works with size 0 not because they want to give the audience what they want or like; it's more like elevating the brand and that fashion elite/ fashion lovers to a level that is exlusive and unattainable for the 'normal' person, even if a size 0 its not in fact beautiful. It's almost works like a cult. So I actually think you can see VS a bit like a cult. I don't know if I can explain it. I will come back to you on this.

Thanks I remember. It does give thar extra experience

Most.People Who watch VS or are their target audience ARE model obsessed and will think skinny equals fit and healthy. Btw a smaller size than size 4 doesn't need to be unhealthy. Thee are a lot of natural petite Girls Who don't starve themselves. What VS does is creating those fake curves so their bodies become unrealisitic ( size 2 andere making Small B cup look like big C or even D)