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ok I'll try to keep this short He helped, but he didn't make that much impact. He had that godawful spell early in the season as well where he couldn't defend to save his life. We should ask ANGE what she remembers though. Gago thinks too much offense? He's a very defensive player. I believe he himself said "the further I go up the pitch, the less of a player I become" or something to that effect. Ramos isn't a risk imo. He is very good for a 20 year old. Great right back (Y) but I think he's great at CB. Anyway if anyone is letting the team down it is the rest of the RM defense. He has been their best player in defense since he arrived imo. Cicinho got a knee injury They need to be playing week in, week out when they are that young. Chivu isn't at Madrid yet and my point is because they have adequate cover, they shouldn't buy Chivu unless they intend for Metzelder to sit on the bench all season Madrid bought Ramos for €20m+ so it wouldn't be a very wise investment to sit Ramos on the bench in the stage of his career where he will learn the most. By playing Chivu, they are just going for a short-term strategy and wasting good talent. Anyway, it seems like I like Ramos and you don't. End of story I guess :shock: I doubt if you have ever saw such a thing ? Gerrard's goal He's closer than the penalty spot, so I'd say around ~10m. Watch the defence do nothing as he lingers inside the area. It was a great goal but the defence has to be at fault there as Stam was nowhere close to Gerrard as he headed the ball home. WHHHHAAAAT? 50m? :shock: Just upload it on megaupload.com or something

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Still doesn't justify a whole season's worth of work but still, if Cannavaro can get nominated I'd be more than happy to accept Drogba :evil: Amazing stuff :shock:

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:shock: Don't be sorry :trout: Just never mention his name ever again :| :evil: I doubt it had as much to do with Cannavaro as it did with Capello choosing to defend home and away and play with a double pivot in front of the back 4. Hell even Roberto Carlos was defending :shock: Diarra...not too fond of him but Gago on the other hand... he had a horrible season but I like Gago Ramos on the right? They are young so they shouldn't play? You realise they need to play while they are young if they want to improve right? They are 20-ish. Provided they don't have any career-threatening injuries and given they have the potential to learn, they will most definitely get better...unless of course they are from Liverpool and go by the name of Robbie Fowler or Steve McManaman That was tragic True about Helguera, but Ramos is a different player. For starters he's more technically gifted, good in the air offensively and defensively, good passer, good shot and reads the game well. He's confident in his own abilities too, but probably most importantly, Ramos has the leadership qualities that Helguera lacks. Helguera can't play without a solid partner there as back-up but Ramos can do that job easily Damn I always thought he was approaching 30 Ummm... Gerrard's header wasn't long range. Riise was left alone, he had plenty of time to pick out a cross and Gerrard was pratically unmarked. If that isn't a failure from the defense I don't know what is The Smicer shot was freaky though bahahaha alright that was unfair bahahahaha my bad. But just because it is a free kick doesn't mean it doesn't count :trout: The defence must concede the free kick too Anyway, Juve have Boumsong :| :rofl: :rofl: Alright that is a fair point but I'd rather concede to mid-table teams than choke when it matters Pffft...I still don't care about Italian football Death to Catenaccio :persuazn: and correction, Kaka won the Champions League (bar the finals). The rest of the team did practically nothing the whole campaign I don't mind the defensive player thing but I just don't believe giving a Player of the YEAR award to someone based on 7 games is right. Cannavaro and Zidane didn't have a vintage season at club level, and I'd rather give it to Zidane because he single-handedly took his team to the finals, but Cannavaro had Gattuso, Pirlo, Zambrotta and Buffon to make him look good. Grosso just looks ugly Henry? He took a young Arsenal side to the Champions League final but Ronnie would be more worthy because he helped Barca win the Champions League and back-to-back Ligas. Pity he didn't do anything at the World Cup though. Kaka is always first choice in my books. Great season at club level and he was the only attacking star to shine for Brasil during the WC Drogba did nothing special individually during that season so I don't know why you'd nominate him Essay complete :|

really? That wasn't a UFO that was the reflection of the sun off Zidane's bald head this is an essay writing thread :| As long as Ramos is in there I'm happy with the solution

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Right. Ok I get you now. The Lampard thing wasn't really related at all...I would've understood your point (that you disagree) if you just said so without bringing Fat Frank into it :trout: Madrid wouldn't know how to defend even if they did have Chivu and Cannavaro paired together :| They needed a high quality defender last year as well and look what Cannavaro did for them last season There's no point bringing in all those defenders because in the end, Madrid don't defend. They are just plain bad at it, plus the fact they don't have a decent ball winner in front of their back 4 and their fullbacks only know how to run in 1 direction Bahahahaha I'm not saying they are good because they are young , I'm saying that they are young and that is why they are not so good YET. Anyway, back to the main point of why Chivu wouldn't be necessary in the Madrid defense - if you bring Chivu in you will have to sit one of the youngsters out and at their age, Ramos and Torres should be playing every week. Ramos is good in the heart of the Madrid defence and he has heaps of potential and you want him to be learning from a great like Cannavaro if you want him to develop into a world-class CB. Only time will tell whether he is better than Chivu, but my money is on the "yes" option Italian teams defend so well and that's why Milan let in 3 goals against Liverpool, or maybe why they let in 4 against Depor the year before that or maybe why Roma let in 7 IN A CHAMPIONS LEAGUE QUARTER-FINAL or why Juve let in 2 goals in 20 minutes against Liverpool or why Udinese let in 5 against Barca and this isn't just domestic competition, this is the knock-out stages of the Champions League, where the "elite" teams are meant to play I could keep naming instances of great Italian defending all day long if you want me to Ok I'll stop being a smart ass...I actually agree that Serie A has better defenses than La Liga Anyway Barca and Madrid are attacking sides, their defence is bound to be a lot poorer than those sides that emphasise defence *death stares Italian teams* DEATH TO CATENACCIO!!! :persuazn: Sorry I didn't mean to say that you said Cannavaro was the best... I just have something against him being crowned World Player of the Year based on 7 games <_< and decided to bitch about it :|

Manyoo are never scary...just lucky <_< Damn you O'Shea :persuazn: My words But I can't deny that Tevez will make an Impact :evil: The Premier League are considering restricting the transfer of Tevez to Manyoo

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What's Lampard got to do with it? They're all young and have potential well besides Metzelder ummm...they're playing in La Liga, not Serie A. I don't see why you want us to see if they fit into a Serie A defence Not to mention the average goals per game in the Serie A has been higher than in the EPL and La Liga for the past couple of seasons. Shocking I know :shock: Pffft Cannavaro <_< He is so over it. He played 7 good games in the World Cup and suddenly he's the best defender the world has ever seen? Give me a break <_< He's quality no doubt but there's no way you're going to convince me that he has been any good in a Madrid shirt. I can see where you're coming from with Ayala and Thuram but they haven't really impressed with Valencia and Barca. By your reasoning we might as wel include Gallas and Nesta. They didn't have great seasons either but they are quality no doubt (Y) I've never compared Chivu and Milito before actually

That looks much better than the 4-2-2-2 I hate 4-4-2's of any variation :| I think Iniesta would be much more suited in Deco's role than Xavi's though That's a scary line-up too Manyoo are never scary...just lucky <_< Damn you O'Shea :persuazn:

Milito oh right, what happened to him? Awe. It's either we get Robben or Malouda, I have no idea which one they want? I believe so. Why not Chivu? I think he is a good player, and we're apparently getting rid of Marcelo, Roberto is gone. Boost defence. I don't know he just went AWOL Robben or Malouda is good (Y) I'd get Robben if I was Real but Lyon are more likely to let Malouda leave although Chelsea are favourites to bag him, so maybe they will let Robben go? Chivu is good but you've got Ramos, Cannavaro and Metzelder at CB already :persuazn: Apparently, Real are getting Drenthe for left back and you have Miguel Torres that can play there or at right back Your defence ain't crumby individually... how they perform as a unit is another story altogether though

Tommy as in TK. I can be sweet, see? Get the Frenchie but not the Chivu-ian (he's Romanian or something right?)

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there's a sequel?

:rofl: Glow in the dark :yuckky: At least you'll be able to see them if they turn the floodlights off

Ummm... no idea actually. We haven't been linked to anyone but Malouda and Simao for all I've heard and news about those two died a while ago I'd agree with the wingers... I think we need 2, unless Harry returns to full fitness and shines in all his glory in the Asian Cup but we do lack strength in depth though. Then again Manyoo won it last year and their bench ain't that great

I can't help it. If only Tommy came back... I would make fun of Manyoo all day long What do you mean it's heading for the tumble? I think it's great that I can communicate my thoughts about Arsenal and Madrid in your absence

but why? I didn't do anything wrong. I didn't make the Henry one either, but notice how he is standing under the exit sign though well...he WAS Chelsea and Liverpool's jerseys are ugly. Wait Adidas is ugly. What the hell are those tentacles coming out from the side?