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@Starla Regardless, Liu had a flop of an outfit but she pulled it off and smoked that runway. Many girls wouldn't have pulled that off. And Joan was stuck in a tiger print mess, and again, she smoked that runway with a hideously coloured ensemble. Toni's overall energy significantly decreased, she was just glowing in 2011, her closing the show ended in a lacklustre of energy. It's all just a matter of whether you are actually going to put some effort into making something bad look good.

All the recent Angels for the past couple of years have been American, and they've all done a not so great job. They bring the sex appeal of a rotten carrot, except Lily. They're just lacking bombshell and womanly (not as in the 'yay for curvy bodies!!1!111 <3" kind of womanly but like mature looking), Barbara looks like a 15 year old in lingerie, but she appeals to customers, Toni is about as exciting as a brick right now, she was amazing in 2011, and then when it came to 2012 I fell asleep watching her. If you look at that 2000 ad I posted a couple of days ago, the models actually look mature and fit for lingerie, the only girls that look mature out of the current angel line up are Adriana, Alessandra, Doutzen and Lily. And as for Kylie, Jamie Lee or whatever the hell her name was (the other girl), got to walk aswell lol they missed that out, but then again, you have to give some props to Kylie for having some standards, but why did she enter it in the first place if she didn't want her body to be exposed? LOGIC. Me @ everything VS has done lately

^ Pretty sure it's just saying that because of her winning the Angel search, they call everybody Angels though, even Karlie when she started when she got off the runway after Super Angels she was like "I'm An Angel!~~ <33" it's like lmao wait 2 years

Too many Angels. There shouldn't be more than 8 at a time IMO. I just instantly feel bad for the girl because then I want them all to get certain privileges and they won't because of the amount of girls there.

Such a heartbreaking event! Prayers are with them! Miranda probably didn't want it renewed either because she wants more money, she got cut off David Jones because they had to cut her contract down so it seems like a pattern. If Ed has already said she will be in the show, and she will do catalogue work, to me it sounds like she'll go the Izabel way. All the girls look super cute in that Behind The Scenes video! Imagine if VS still did these kind of commercials:

I don't like Erin but man that is a terribly photoshopped picture, I feel bad I laughed. Seriously Behati was the best in this commercial, everybody else was meh, but Behati is just wow :wub2:

^ Probably, I went on my friends phone onto the website and Candice was on every photo on the homepage (And a petite Erin and Miranda hiding in the corner) I'm done with all the "We keep naturally healthy and maintain a good lifestyle", nek minnit snapped smoking (Cough Erin)

And I'm called being judgmental and hateful. (I actually mean that btw) I'm simply saying that if you look at Candice's candids on a whole, she is completely different and not as special as her VS work. I still really can't imagine Karlie at this years VSFS when she is going to blab and talk about the things VS get the Angels to talk about, I really can't imagine it. Ever since Ale got the FB, she's had a ridiculously large amount of media coverage, you see at least an article a day about her. It's really boosted her fame, she only had around maybe 200,000 followers prior to getting the bra and look at how many she has now.

Introducing, the all new "Pay your way to be a VS model" collection! Perfect for tacky wannabee's that mom's pay for their campaigns, it's new hip! Why work your way to be a model when you can get your sibling to make a sex tape! I can't stand that family. But the VS girls just aren't looking like the 'Worlds Most Beautiful Women', Candice's recent photos at the airport were just no, plus alot of the girls look like girls, not grown women, which is what they're lacking in right now

If Anna gives her mercy to attend the MET Gala, I don't think she's ever been if I'm correct?

@Maiya No that's completely off, Miranda looks a helluva lot older then Barbara, if you compare Miranda in the Fabulous commercial, and Barbara in the V-Day, Miranda looks a whole lot older. But yes, Behati does look very young but sooner or later that smoking and weed will kick into her face and you will see the damage. Also, at that time, when Isabeli + Karolina were modelling for VS when they were 16 was acceptable because nothing was wrong in that period of time, however during the mid 00's, eating disorders became a huge deal and now they want to protect children and I think the rule of being 16 to model at NYFW came in tact around a year ago. For VS, they were probably raising the age limit to 18 because there's alot of perverts these days and people don't want to see teens in g-strings and see through bra's. Did anyone notice VS still has't moved Karlie from in between Candice and Doutzen on VSAA? Seriously someone send them those preschool alphabet learning DVD's and books But in good news, Andreea Diaconu looks amazing for PINK! But in bad news for PINK, they have developed a love for PINEAPPLES and even TACKIER looking garments! I can't even take them seriously anymore

Barbara has a very young looking face, I feel like I'm looking at my 12 year old non existent sister doing lingerie or something. Her face is soft that's why whereas other girls that look very young have better bone structure which makes them look more mature. However Barbara did get overwhelming positive response and those people messaged VS about that, all through the comments on photos of her or videos where she's in everyone is like "Barbara !!111!11 *insert emoticon here" whereas everyone with Karlie "Karlie is gorgeous but she just doesn't fit VS yadadada". I still am honestly in awe that Lais has a child, she looks so amazing for someone so young with a child

The public still aren't fond of her, as we can see in the following video's with the comments: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV8U17pk6Os http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkU0HlPsffI There are however alot of positive comments on different videos, but ratio wise there's more negativity rather then praise for her

Simply flawless!

Blame John Pffeifer. He's got the major say on which models are hired.

Bregje is very lovely and she has a banging body, her personality maybe not the best because she can be as boring as a plank of wood. Karlie to me isn't actually cute, some of her uber plain photos (ones outside of VS even), make her look like a chipmunk and not a cute one. Toni however I loved her in 2011, she was amazing, and then when the 2012 show came she became so forgettable and had an incredible lack of energy. Cara doesn't seem to be working with VS much now (she only did a PINK shoot back in November and that was it), so I don't think there's a chance of her becoming one since she's getting a rowdy reputation with her partying and they don't want girls like that. Shanina is a complete babe, I see some of her ads sometime on TV and I fall in love. But that's probably all invalid because current VS logic is that if you're 24+ you go to PINK and if you're under 24 you go to the adult line.

I wonder who's potentially next to be an Angel? They've been using Bregje alot more, less of Barbara, less of Lais, more of Magdalena, more of Sara.

WOW! She was so good at DJs! I thought they had a pretty good relationship! It kinda reminds me of Gisele-VS cutting it all, like she was never there...

^ Like a point I made previously, Chanel and Karlie were both very skinny, that didn't appeal to the public and VS had to ask Chanel to put on weight, Karlie has a high chance of having the same effect and she looks even skinnier.

She's officially an Angel! http://vsallaccess.victoriassecret.com/supermodels/karlie-kloss

I don't know, Karlie's grown onto me but truly, I feel like she ripped alot of other models off. VS gave her more attention then the Angels when she was a model. She still hasn't worked hard enough or long enough for it in my opinion. She'll probably be another Chanel, general public won't like her because she's too skinny, that happened to Chanel aswell.

So hope Jac and Bette make it this year! Maybe Anais and Cintia too?