Souled-Out

I don't think so. She seems grateful and not to care and understanding. Like we all hated her SA outfit but she loved it. Like seriously, she posted about that outfit and said it was her favorite of the show. I think she isn't bitter at all. An article in a magazine two years ago tried to claim that and she denied it on social media. ... Would she prefer things to be different maybe. But Adriana seemed to never care to get all the great things, she was just happy to get what she has from VS. She isn't one of those angels who got a big head after VS pushed them alot. There are angels like that, but Adriana isn't one of them. I think she has just always been happy to be there to mark another year to walk lol. Maybe its the overall general change in VS and that "moment of transition" that she mentioned in her W mag interview is what makes it harder for her. I def think Adriana's fittings are last for PR reasons and because she didn't get anything special this year, not even a segment opening. I am sure all of the angels who got a segment opening already did their fittings. She will probably close something, which isn't as good as an opening but as I said, its what happens when you stay long. It happened to Ale and Heidi. Adriana is lucky to have had an opening every year since 2001 actually. I think this will be what Adriana makes it. Its up to her to walk and act like she is one of the most anticipated VS angels (which she is). So as I said before, when its time for her to be an angel, I hope she really puts on no matter how she may "feel". Alot of people are losing their faith with VS but not with her. So, I hope she brings it no matter what

ABC is a big channel.The thing is, VS had to switch. They had to get somebody else to provide for them to air because CBS isn't doing it anymore. When they have to switch like that, that means something is up with the TV program. Do you know what happened to the daytime emmys? ABC used to host it constantly, then they had to switch it to some other channel because not enough people watched it anymore, and then they had to move to streaming. And that was the emmys. So ofcourse the same will happen to a lingerie show like VS. The fact that they had to switch is alarming. The next time it happens, they will be streaming. EDIT sorry, I thought you were responding to me saying they had to change to ABC. But yeah, still, the fact that VS had to chose another channel means they aren't doing great and I don't think it will help

I just realize they switched from CBS to ABC. They are getting close to not being able to air this show on TV

You know what... I would not be surprised because VS is pulling allll the PR stunts this year lol

Hopefully not lol. Thats terrible luck on theirs and VS part.

It wasn't an opening, it was just a walk at the 2007 VS Fashion Show. But it doesn't matter because its about taste and everybody has a different one.

I don't lol. Because thats a lie.

That wasn't an opening though LOL. Taylor lacks too much energy. That is my opinion. Be honest, nobody talks about her when she opens unless its about how she looks. And thats how it is in alot of her work. She plays it safe alot. Even at VS events this is her She is nice to look at. To each its own at the end of the day. Adriana may have too much energy for others or is tacky. Just like taylor lacks something for others. Everybody is going to have their opinion. But in the end, who gets more recognition for their runway presence? That is for a reason.

Yeah, I was just looking at that. With the way they push the new angels. Taylor is opening. And behati is back, and Candice is there. Adriana is probably not gonna open a segment this year... Its gonna suck for her fans, especially if this is her last show. She will probably leave like Alessandra. Which isn't what we prefer but thats what happens when you stay so long. We can't be picky as fans. We can't be mad because Adriana got alot through out her years. And at the end of the day, its obvious that she is still one of the biggest stars of that show. She doesn't need VS to give her anything, to have a spot light on her. Its gonna be on her regardless, that is the good thing. People will not be seeing seeing her as a regular model. They still see her as the best and thats the difference. She can afford to not have anything special, she has herself. That is why I hope she walks like she used to for old times sake, because too many people been shitting on her walk from last year. She gotta show the haters to not get it twisted lol

I know she is the third most followed angel, but SERIOUSLY VS. WTF

umm is it true that Taylor is opening the show??? Please, i'd rather behati again I don't even care about the FB. I know non of my favorites are getting it. Shit, they probably never will again. Thats dead lol.

Since she is walking this year and all the things she said about VS in recent interviews, she is surely grateful. We can stop questioning that now. I hope she isn't "too over it", I hope she walks that show like its 2005 lol. She can be over it but she is still there, so hopefully she gets in the spirit, or pretend to be. Because at the end of the day, she is still here lol

Lol Adriana got regular people reading VS press statements just to know whether or not she is coming The fact that people were even dming other models asking it lol. I think VS also waiting so long to confirm that was a PR thing, as I said. The anticipation about whether or not someone like her coming forced people to keep tabs on the show. They literally waited the last minute to confirm her, even her fitting is the very last one of all angels.

Exactly, exactly. If Adriana doesn't make it to the "40 years" thing, that would be fine. This could be her last year. For HER sake, I just needed her to still be with the brand after the IG post thing. She deserves to leave VS in a proper way. And VS themselves deserve it as well. Lord knows the brand is struggling, its hard for me to tolerate it. But at the end of the day, VS used to be something great and special, and Adriana was there at that time. Most importantly, they let her run it and do great things when it was doing well. So, she has to continue to do right by them and make sure she leaves on a good note. Showing up at this years show would be just that. I used to care about her having a "big" send off. But shit has been so crazy this year, it doesn't even matter to me anymore lol. VS gave her alot already. Also, say this is her last year, doing 18 shows is still phenomenal. Being an angel for 18 years is very phenomenal as well. That is a record, Adriana missed the 2009 show because of pregnancy, so her and Ale have always been equal in show numbers because Ale knows how to lose weight incredibly fast lol. But since apparently Adriana is walking this year, that would make 18 for her. Nobody else done that many, and that is still a very hard number to beat.

No thats very old. That was when she advertised for amazon water. That was around 2012

Barbs would be a good person to know, is she still the fit model? Even if she isn't, when you go to fittings there is a board with models names on it for their segments and stuff, so you know who will be walking by looking at that board. Its just that confirmation was via a dm... But I am just hoping its true lol. I don't even care. I don't care what outfit she gets if she does walk. Whether or not she will open or close a section. I don't care if she will look good. Or if she would walk great. She just needs to be there lol

Valentina looks alot like her, she just doesn't have her eye color

Yeah, with you know who being in the picture. It is very complicated and hard to put together why BOTH her and VS are so mute when it comes to her. It could be that she left, and they are just leaving it up to her to say something. Or, she hasn't left, and she is just being weird about VS. Because like I said, during the fashion show last year Adriana was very weird about it. She refused to post about the show and China, until it was time to air the show. For me, thats where the brain washing stuff comes in. Because she was clearly still with VS. She was clearly still apart of the show. But all she did during that week was post about Metin or quote him. Nevermind the fact that she is with people who knew her and had her back for 17 years... It was like she didn't want to acknowledge why she was in China. She was too caught up on something that she only knew about a few months ago, instead of something she has been doing for years. That was strange because that was the first time she showed such attitude and lack of acknowledgment of the show. Don't get me wrong, she was never one to spam her VS work. She barely post her recent work on social media now. But like I said she'd atleast post once in the past I mean, we all knew how much she loved VS. Even if she didn't spam her feed with old VS content like other angels, you could tell by her energy and vibe. And now, we kinda don't know anymore. But what kills me is how quickly this happened and sudden. 17 years, she was always happy and excited for it. Anyway, also I wonder if this is also PR. VS is deteriorating, and they did send the kardashians special outfits to wear. That was so tacky and trashy of them lol. So its clear they need PR. And maybe, just maybe VS and Adriana are being so silent to keep people on their toes and as a PR move. Because clearly thats what they need lol. But despite VS not doing well these days, Adriana should still leave that brand with alot of grace, gratefulness and respect. Just leaving after that IG post and unfollowing majority of the models and Ed. Would make her look terrible. That is bad enough to ruin her career. Its unprofessional and it would make her personality look horrible and nobody would want to work with someone like that. Hell, nobody would want to be a fan of someone like that. Thats why I am nervous because she would really be letting so many people down, including herself. It doesn't matter if VS isn't good anymore. When VS was doing great, they gave her ALOT. She may not owe her fans anything, but she owes VS something. Which is to leave properly. Not after a controversial IG post and unfollowing their models. That just isn't right. And that is the ONLY reason I want her to still be walking this year. So that if she decides to leave after this year, atleast we know she didn't leave after making a messy IG post. So yeah, lets pray that she shows up at fittings. If not, she has dug her own grave. It just would not be a good look.

So she is in miami I mean, there are two more days left but you'd think she'd already try to be in NYC. Since its only Halloween... And she is wearing the same costume from last year. IDK Guys. I just wish we could like rewind to like 2 years ago... When it was better to understand her and when we knew where she stood with VS and her career. Everything was so much better before last year. It is depressing scrolling on her IG feed and looking at her posts from like 2016 and back. I can't even ask why is she like this now. We all know why and when that switch happened. Its just how could she let herself be changed like that. How could she allow that in such a small amount of time. I know she is a gemini but damn, one thing that she was always certain about was Victoria's Secret. Don't get me wrong, there are two more days. She could have her fittings later this week. But even then, her lack of posting VS since last year is still unsettling. But that isn't as unsettling as if it turns out she did leave VS before this year's show and after that IG post. That is unsettling and will cause her to get even more backlash because someone like her should not be leaving VS in such a way. Not only because she claimed to have love it so much but they have done alot for her. And even she knows that. She knows that VS has helped her as much as she has helped them. She just said it in that good morning america interview. She knows what VS means for someone like her. So hopefully she also knows to leave with respect and grace. I am really hoping she just wants to keep the tradition of taking her kids trick or treating/halloween festivities and that is all. I really hope that is what it is.

I thought about that as well. But she went running. And is working out while traveling. She is def perparing for something. Also she has been at the dog pound. I agree her being so mute is weird but she was like that last year as well. Remember she was in china the whole time during the fshion show and regular people were wondering if she was there because adriana didn’t post about being in china at all. So her being mute is weird but is no longer new

Oh, her leaving WILL be announced lol. It will be news. Its just a matter of when and how. I just don't want her to leave after that IG post controversy. That is a terrible way to leave and I hope Adriana still have enough of her former brain left to know how to correctly leave a company. Fittings are done for literally a week. They won't be all on the same day. Last year, Ale had her fitting like two days after Adriana. And this year Adriana had something to do monday and tuesday. It is just the waiting game. I am just scared because Adriana seems to be a wild card this year, and as long as she is associated with that dude, I am not sure about anything. However, she did talk about them in two interviews recently. If you have left a company, why talk about them? Also, earlier this year she did tell people magazine she was not leaving VS. If you google Gisele and Heidi announcing that they were leaving, it was via people magazine. Thing is, that was earlier this year. We will just have to wait and hope for the best.

Leaving tomorrow or she could have left today/tonight. I do know that usually the fittings are a week long. So anytime during this week she could be there. Not all of the angels had fittings today. And clearly she had something to do yesterday and today. We just won't officially know until it/if it happens. I have to admit, I am nervous about it too. I am nervous because I want to continue to be proud of her. It would be a let down if she left like this Its just so strange to see her be the way she is about the brand. I am not sure if its a PR move to KEEP people on their toes by being less vocal than usual. Or has her passion for the brand all of a sudden been taken away, because she didn't post much about the show last year neither, until it was time for it to air. I mean, she did talk about it. And she has been working alot, which she usually always is right before the show because its PR. And she has been working out ALOT and doing that self care stuff. So those are good indications. But she is still less vocal about it than usual and we don't know why. So, can't help but to be nervous still. I just really do hope the fans are right about her walking this year. Not really because I love the show but because of the reason behind if she decided she didn't want to do it anymore. Hell, even the reason behind her not talking about on social media has me uncomfortable. Adriana has been with VS since 1999, 17 years. No way would she all of sudden not care for it and not want to do it anymore, on her own. No way would she have made that kind of decision on her own. So, like I said before her fans will be extremely disappointed if that happened this year. Too much history with VS for that, and she loved that brand too much for that BUT we don't know, yet. And we can't bash her about something we don't know yet.

Exactly. With social media, there is a gain for the model if they are interactive. Unlike on social media, There is no gain or advantage of being nice to fans and regular people in person. It just depends on how you are as a person. The fact that Adriana is known for good treatment in the latter situation speaks more. Adriana has done some very great things to her fans whom she met. Like alot of those things you never heard a model do before (Give them something of hers, allow them to hang out with her on her own private yacht). I get that sometimes its frustrating that she doesn't use social media like other models. But at the same time, people coming at her like this and misunderstanding her BECAUSE of social media, is what I think makes her back away from it. People become harsh because of it. People are harsh on it. She has complained about it this year. She is/was having trouble dealing with it. As much as it sucks for a fan to see her so inactive, its still understandable. But Adriana has done too many outstanding things for her supporters to be judged like that on those basis. So not only must she be very generous to her fans when she meets them, but she also has to do what ya'll want her to do on social media? That is alot of entitlement. I think real fans of hers would actually like and appreciate that if they ever met her, she would actually treat them right. I actually think people who can't even understand this, are the kids. Because they act like social media is everything. They act like how someone acts outside of social media does not matter. It is does and it matters the most because social media and the internet allows for alot of fake shit, and models do have a personal gain if they chose to use it more. Adriana has done too many good things for people and supporters in real life for so called fans to trash her for not flexing enough on social media. Adriana has reposted fans through out this year and last year, she followed one or two fan pages, and she still treats her fans nicely. That should be enough for real fans. She still doesn't post much, but hey that only hurts her, not her fans.

I don't agree with the whole "Social media Arrogance" thing. Its just never been Adriana's thing. She is just always poor at it lol. I think she followed some fan pages because she felt like it. its not that complicated at all. I would not call her arrogant, especially not just because of social media. That is platform she barely uses. And it just isn't the only thing people should judge someone by. Alot of models, when their fans meet them, they get treated like trash. Adriana is not like that when her fans meet her. She is a good person for her fans to meet. She barely uses social media anyway, its not her favorite thing and most of the time I don't blame her. It doesn't get easier as you get older. I wish she'd take better care of her social media, but that only because it would make HER look good. But if she doesn't like it (which seems to be the case), she just doesn't. She shouldn't be labeled arrogant for that. Its called being stuck in her ways (She is a 00's model, she didn't grow up with this). You only label her arrogant by her actual actions towards people, not because she doesn't like to deal with websites and social media. Thats preference not arrogance. And people do still talk about Adriana when she actually does something lol. We all know earlier this year, she just didn't do much. So there was nothing for people to talk about. But she was talked about ALOT during NYFW in September and for her puma deal. So to say nobody talks about her anymore is false. Especially right now, no other VS angel is getting more news than her, especially since she never confirmed whether or not she is walking the show

Yeah, its looking fashion related. Hopefully its a COVER!