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^^ Freakin SWEET!!!!!!!!! vive la decadence!!!!! thanks, G!

im jamaican/german myself, and i do care about such issues... but ive learned the hard way that fairness has little to do with the industry theres a great quote by lagerfeld: 'theres no such thing as fairness in the fashion industry--if you want equality, go become a social worker-- i understand all your points.. and agree to a certain extent with some of them. good debate... thanks lets leave it at that

^^^ i agree and i have to amend her age.... shes 41, not 40

layla she seems to be making a resurgence... i picked up u.s. harpers bazaar yest. and she had an ed in it! hopefully shell stick around, she is a stunning girl

as i said, were not going to agree upon this subject..so the blah blah blah means nil. who cares whats fair in the industry?? i mentioned niki and elle since You were the one to bring in the vid about who was making what money. edit: money earned is an indicator of as you said... 'Commercial impact' is it not? and perhaps tatjana didnt appear in pics with her lovers because she didnt want people in her private business that makes her seem intelligent and savvy as opposed to the girls who flaashed their relationships <all of which failed, btw> for all the world to see edit: tatjana appeared on one or more covers of american vogue Every year from 87 to 92 5 yrs claudia appeared in one ore more covers from 90 to 96 5 straight years on the cover of vogue is commercial impact, is it not?

rachel williams seems to be in a bit of a pickle from her thread here @ bz

^^^^^ oh joe... i kind of adore you think that youre merely o.k.

now Thats what im talkin about!!!!!!!

colorgasm!!!

olga sherer

cameron looks gorgeous thanks, francy

nice poll! though... christina K has been around too long to be an up and comer.. she started in '93.. but its AWESPOME that people are seeing her on the runways and thinking shes new!! :hell yea!: nadja of course christina K and daria

i wasnt trying to convince you.... i was merely stating my opinion and as for helena christensen...in her 1991 interview for house of style, she states that shes been modelling for a year and a half helena Started when the supermodel thing exploded thats not quite 1987. is it?--and also, claudia didnt reach international fame until 'those bardot-esque' guess ads which, though im not sure exactly when they came out id say 89 or 90.. claudia stayed in the business longer.. tatjana went on to live her life happily out of the spotlight. does this mean that she shouldnt get recognition? to me, it doesnt matter who made a bigger commercial impact over time the reasons you listed for not counting tatjana seemed strange to me she didnt date famous people?? huh??? you say everyone and their mother knows that claudia was one of the five well, i say anyone who knows and cares about the history of modelling knows different anyways... you wont waver from your opinion and neither will i, so shall we agree to disagree? and going by that video....elle macpherson and niki taylor should be on your list as opposed to naomi

yeah, we're square for now

im glad things are going well!!!! better keep your grades up or mama penny will get you!! :persuazn: helena does still get editorials and covers... but im sure they photoshop her she just started working for max factor and heres a recent cover both of these are from tfs