Cain

dont you mean duke kentucky matchup err, no Michigan State. They got a chip on their shoulder and they ain't gonna lose to Duke again

your right Safin, but we all exagerate a little

Alright fine. Oklahoma doesn't look too good right now. That'll just make it easier for the MSU Kentucky matchup

Sounds like lots of smoke and back tracking to me. Wooden was an excellent recruiter with a mediocre approach to basket. He put some basic idea's up that any moronic coach could figure out, drive n kick, how much of a genius do you have to be to figure that out? Anybody would have been called a good coach back then with those kind of players and with that kind of time to develop them.

how the heck do muffins have anything to do with Washington vs Pacific?

I think shes talking about either Morrison or Turiaf

Yea, no bracket needed: Chicago: Illini vs BC, Arizona vs So. Illini; BC vs Arizona; BC Alburguerque: Washington vs Gtech, T.Tech vs WF; GTech vs WF; WF Syracuse: UNC vs Florida, Wisconsin vs NCSU; UNC vs NCSU; UNC Austin: Duke vs MSU; Oklahoma vs Kentucky; MSU vs Kentucky; Kentucky

Why cause you liked their name? Goooon ZAAAAA ga!

And yes the Kansas game was a shock, but I made a gut call earlier in the thread that Syracuse would go down early, I picked the second round, but the first is just as good, just gives MSU, the eventual upsetter of Duke, an easier run.

That Zags game was close, I thought they would atleast get to the 16. Oh well, just means Wake Forest will have a major height advantage IF they win today.

Thanks for underlining my point, safin. Another reason why Wooden's records will probably stand for another 30 years or so. And Cain, you should know that u can't GUARANTEE anything!!! Look at the 2 major upsets last night!!! :shock: Bet u didn't that coming, huh?! What point was underlined!? You've made no point and you've been blowing alotta smoke out your ass K-Dub. Your initial argument is about Wooden being the best coast, and yet your agreeing with Safin? If anything those points argue the case. Wooden got the best players in an age where you can spend four years developing players to be there best. These days if Coach K or Dean Smith could keep all their players and played the kind of piss poor competion that Wooden got, they'd be putting up records and number that would put UCLA to shame. Stick to an argument and stop popin smoke nades.

23 for 32 in the first round. My bracket looks horrible on the right side. Only got just over half right. 13 of my sweet sixteen teams are still intact tho. Six of my big eight teams are left, and all my Final Four teams are still in it.

Nope, Gilligans right, mine blocked one too.

I don't think anybody in the country did

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Talk about college b-ball gents. Kansas just got dropped

Back to the present. Kansas is about to get dumped

Do you even remember what the argument is all about? Wooden being the greatest Coach of all time? Can you really tell me that Coach Wooden, who is a good coach, could coach a team in today's league? Probably, but he wouldn't be able to put up the gawdy numbers that Dean Smith, or Coach K have. Coach Wooden was a tall pine in a forest schrubbery, Dean Smith and Coach K, and even Roy Williams are Red Woods in a forest of pines. Wooden doesn't even come close. Cling to the past and pray for your records. Although the consecetive records will probably will never beaten, I can guarantee you that UNC alone will break everything else. Wooden can maybe be called the first great coach, but not the greatest.

10 years from now, when UCLA has lost in the first round AGAIN, all you UCLA fans will be like, oh well, we still got the records. Who cares!? Ten years from now, UNC and Duke will likely have 2 or 3 more championships between them, something even the great Wooden couldn't dream to accomplish today.

Alright, im not going to argue with you anymore about those stupid records. Then again, maybe I will. Everything is parity k. I don't understand how somebody can argue for a team that won all those championships against who? Back then there was no Gonzaga, there was no Villinova, or Vermont. Back then there was no Julius Hodges or Coppenrath's. Parity. Its like my dad said, there are alot of good players out there now. With all that parity, with all those great players, what schools still win year after year, whats schools have proven themselves that they are the TRUE schools of basketball. Right now I can only think of four, Kansas, Kentucky, UNC, and Duke. UCLA? Pfft, a sidenote of history, and old history at that.

Yea. Boy, I just had a good though, Roy Williams leads the Tar Heels to the next 7 National Championships. Man I wish, but if theres any team out there thats gonna do it, its the Tar Heels.

I especially dislike to argue with somebody who knows nothing about the game, and has to cut and paste from a website to back himself up.

This argument is stupid and making me angry, I can't stand it when people talk about UCLA like they were the greatest thing to happen to college basketball. All Coach Wooden did was strive to get the best players every year. With the players he managed to recruit, any team under any coach could put up those kind of numbers, especially those days when parity was nothing.

This argument is mute, I think its testament enough that UNC and Duke continue to earn trips to the NCAA as National Contendors every year, while UCLA has done nothing in the last three decades. The history of UCLA is just that, history.