11 hours ago, BreezyOcean98 said:

Wow. I knew Ali felt dark. Had no idea he in Epstein black book and call logs! Get out!

Yeah, this stuff is publicly sourced and vetted. To be clear, because I think someone asked, I have not heard ANY speculation about Candice being involved in any of the Epstein stuff and I want to be clear that I am in no way insinuating that.

I just don't understand why she would willingly stay friends with someone who has such deep ties to Epstein. Ali allegedly was close enough to have called Epstein 4 times within one month. And also had ties with Brunel. It's alarming. I understand that Candice has known him since she was young but is this not still disturbing? The world gives so much heat to anyone that was even spotted in a photo with any of Epstein's associates. Candice has certainly not been questioned about this at all.

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I've read many times about this theory that at those levels of fame (and especially in the modeling industry) there are many open relationships or ones where the partners aren't “exclusive,” as they say, at least for a while or during a certain phase. Whether it’s something explicitly agreed upon by both parties or a sort of unspoken understanding, that would explain why many couples stay together despite rumors (and often more than just rumors, but actual evidence) of infidelity on the part of many of them, usually on the boyfriend’s side.

After all, it’s an industry where there are likely to be weeks or months when they barely have time to see each other, surrounded by many temptations… so I wouldn’t be surprised if Candice and Hermann (or any other couple), while they were officially a couple, had both been with other people, without that constituting infidelity as such. This dynamic can change when they decide to start a family or simply because they agree to be exclusive, and then involving third parties becomes much more toxic or outright cheating.

18 minutes ago, Csalir said:

I've read many times about this theory that at those levels of fame (and especially in the modeling industry) there are many open relationships or ones where the partners aren't “exclusive,” as they say, at least for a while or during a certain phase. Whether it’s something explicitly agreed upon by both parties or a sort of unspoken understanding, that would explain why many couples stay together despite rumors (and often more than just rumors, but actual evidence) of infidelity on the part of many of them, usually on the boyfriend’s side.

After all, it’s an industry where there are likely to be weeks or months when they barely have time to see each other, surrounded by many temptations… so I wouldn’t be surprised if Candice and Hermann (or any other couple), while they were officially a couple, had both been with other people, without that constituting infidelity as such. This dynamic can change when they decide to start a family or simply because they agree to be exclusive, and then involving third parties becomes much more toxic or outright cheating.

I had heard that during the first year of her relationship with Hermann, she was talking to the son of a billionaire shipbuilder. However, the following week, Candice went to Brazil, and Hermann’s family got to know her. I don’t think Candice is the type to cheat; she was loyal and in love—otherwise, she wouldn’t have stayed with a "regular" model for 13 years. There were rumors that Hermann had accused Candice of having affairs related to her work, but all the famous people she was associated with were connected to her through Joan, Ali, and their other mutual friends. I don’t know—perhaps her loyalty to that man, followed by witnessing his infidelity, awakened a desire for revenge in her. She once said she wanted a marriage like her parents’ and to be a family-oriented woman like her mother; I’m not sure why she changed—maybe it’s due to being single for so long and losing hope of finding love—but it is clear that her personality has shifted

1 hour ago, NotABird said:

I don't know much about what Candice's relationship with Hermann was like but I've heard from those that know her that she's cheated on him before on multiple occasions. I can believe that he was probably awful to her too and cheated. Seems like a very rough relationship and good for both of them for being out of it.

Don't want to jump to assumptions but based on her being willing to trample on friends in order to date Tom and Kanye, it would be hard to believe that she one day just woke up and decided she wanted to be more famous/be linked to A-listers. She is coming across as someone that has been plotting to 'blow up' for some time. Presumably she has thought herself superior to Hermann for some time. Or at least I've heard as much. I've also heard that she stopped talking to her family for a while over Hermann and that he was a source of tension between her and her family. No bueno.

Well, if as you said it was all planned by Candice, why didn't she go after an A-lister right after she broke up with Hermann in November 2018, 5 months after giving birth to her second child? As far as I know, after Hermann came Pietro, the guy Candice desperately wanted, who is a model like her, but not as rich and famous as she is. Candice tried so hard to get back with him again in 2021 when she went to do a Tropic of C photoshoot in Puglia where he was; there’s even a photo of her sitting on his shoulders at the beach back then in 2021.

Another thing, what Candice did to Joan was terrible and there is no questioning that, especially since she is already becoming known worldwide as the "backstabbing friend" who betrayed her friend to get her guy. This is becoming Candice's "biggest scandal" throughout her entire career so far. Now, failing to align or even admit the facts of how Candice was cheated on by Hermann multiple times, particularly during her pregnancy with her second child and also after the birth of her second child, is something that everyone in Vitória, ES, in Brazil knows—just check it. And that, indeed, is extremely disgusting in my opinion