TexasLongHorn2013

^ Thanks Laura....nice pics indeed.

Candice Swanepoel is ours in portuguese, top model reveals her love for Brazil. "Hi, I'm Candice Swanepoel..." - She speaks in portuguese - "I learned (she says it wrong, which makes it even cuter) with my boyfriend, with music..." - Candice only wears brazilian bikinis - "Brazilian bikinis are different because brazilian body is different. Hotter, stronger and... Brazil has something for the booty LOL... There is a lot of strapless bikinis... For me, simple bikinis are better, those that look like a second skin. I like it simple." - She says Bahia is her favorite place in the world - "My favorite places in Bahia are Caraíva, Trancoso, Boipeba... the most hidden places. A perfect day in Bahia is at the beach the whole day, eating well, relaxing, listening to live music, sleeping a lot LOL" - She listens to brazilian music every day - "When I arrived in Brazil it started with Ivete (Ivete Sangalo is a singer from Bahia), and then some reggae like Natiruts... "liberdade pra dentro da cabeça" (it's a line from a Natiruts song). Jota Quest (it is a band)... And then some classics like Caetano Veloso, Tim Maia. Now I've been listening to Seu Jorge, Jorge Ben." - She loves (and she know how to do) some brazilian food - "I like things with coconut... coconut ice cream; sweet tapioca, feijoada, crab, vinaigrette and farofa, barbecue... Everything! It's really good! Kisses to everyone in Brazil!" (The words I didn't translate are typical, I can't translate them, sorry! And it is not perfect, but I think you can undersand )

Oh yea? Teach me hello is "olá" how are you is "está tudo bem " love it is " adoro" ahha

^^^ Thank you for rubbing it in...LoL. Brazil and Portugal are two countries that I definitely must visit before I die. I vow to learn Portuguese models990. I should have guessed your nationality given that you have Sara in your signature.

^^^^ Amen brother.....preach it!!!! So well said. I've been ranting like mad myself the past couple of days, but its certainly justified. I appreciate your work on getting this replica thing settled. I feel a little better knowing its a replica, but not much. I wonder how Candice feels about all of this? Does she really care? Was this cleared with her? Maybe she is happy with things as they are and does not wish to get any bigger. There are so many things I would like to ask her. I hope she comes out and addresses matters once she returns to the States. I'm also with you on Adri and Ale's soldiers out there. I read much of the hate directed at Candice on tumblr. I could not believe it. Candice absolutely lights up any room she is in. I saw it in person here in Houston. Her supporters were lined up three hours before she was even scheduled to appear. Women and men of all ages were filled with excitement at the thought of just meeting her. Candice supporters were sharing stories of why they love her so much. The Victoria Secret likely has never done that much business in one day. It was absolutely electric. She is the unquestioned new number 1. Adr's and Ale fans need to show some respect and take a step back. The only thing holding Candice back is VS and possibly Candice herself. I feel like she has been mistreated badly, but I don't know her wishes. If VS put her on say....NFL pre-game and then a primetime show right before the fashion show, I know it would make her the household name she should be. However, maybe Candice is content being popular, but relatively low key. Its so maddening. I hopes she speaks out one way or the other.

^^^ They have so many ways they could use candice to market the FB and the fashion show, and make her a household name. But they do this. I just wanna know who makes these types of decisions for VS.

I don't know the exact details. It might have been originally meant for Heidi however at the time of the FB planning I think Heidi was already pregnant Heidi wore the bra for her make-up collection shoot and at that time KK has already worn it so you might be right about that. Not saying it matches the situation. Just throwing info. to consider. Fair enough...and I will take it into consideration.

My conclusions exactly divinesecret, on both points. It looks like Heidi and Karolina's situation is completely different. A replica drops my anger meter somewhat, but it is still pretty high. Not very happy with VS right now.

Judging by the sides, it does seem quite different. We can't be positive until we see whole thing. If it is a replica, my anger will go from a 10 to about a 8. I still firmly believe that all marketing opportunities concerning the bra should go to Candice alone. There is more than enough time and quality CBS programming to raise both Candice's the fashion show's profiles. I guess they have done something similar in the past: http://www.bellazon.com/main/topic/27120-the-official-victorias-secret-thread/?p=3285247 Thanks for this Pink, but what are the circumstances surrounding the Karolina and Heidi swap? Surely not the same as this? From what I gather, it looks like either Heidi was originally tabbed for the 2006 bra but it was given to Karolina due to her pregnancy, or Heidi got to where it in 2007 after it had been fully marketed by Karolina in 2007. Either way, it does not match this situation.

^^^ Exactly. If VS had done this before, I would not be as upset, but this is unprecedented. They should be passing the torch to Candice, not this.

We all know how the real world works....thank you for your perspective. However, once a certain status is achieved, a model whom was once merely an employee gains a degree of power to affect negotiations. That is how the Real World works as well. I would also like to welcome the Adriana Nation to the Candice thread. I knew it would only be a matter of time before you voiced your opinions. No one is bashing Adriana...yet. Candice supporters just want answers. Instead of starting a war, we will wait for more details to come in. Who knows? Candice may have ok'd all of this or be fine with it. Its best to wait for information. As previous posters have said, lets get back to the pics and take up this fight again once more facts come out.

Just going by what I read and hear. And believe me, I've read and heard it a lot. Something thats often repeated in not BS. But I will tone it down.

7 pages of this BS controversy. When is it going to end? As for your latest collection of points, TexasLongHorn: 3. Adriana's fans are "crazy" so I hear. Do you want to be like this? 5. Really? How do you know that? YOU DON'T. 6. I think it was more the other way around. But again nobody knows. And the FB is probably going to figure into the plot of the show, that is why they used it. For all we know VS wanted Candice to do this and she said, "Fuck you, I'm going to Brazil." 3. For Candice....sure, she's worth it. 5. Plenty of quality primetime shows plus a good month before the show, equals time to promote Candice. 6. I think VS has enough clout and power to decide how their models are used. With that being said, I have ranted too much and will tone it down greatly.

No one has attacked Adri or Ale. Adri is known for drama...that is a fact. Candice supporters are justifiably upset. Candice is being pimped out like VS's whore and getting slapped around. We won't stand for it. What facts do you have? I'm just interested. I love both girls, but I think this is just crazy!!! Writing a petition...wtf?! I don't think neither of them (Adriana or Candice) actually care about any of this. CBS wanted Adriana because she is more famous at this point so she did the show, Candice is busy in Brazil....it's just work for them, witch they get very well paid for. I think this is blown out of proportions on both sides. People who are so angry, and those who are enjoying this way too much. Get a life! That being said I think if CBS didn't think Candice would draw as much audience as Adriana, VS should of made just another sparkly bra, said that it is the fantasy one, because I agree that this is a bad move on VS part. Now everyone is going to think Adriana will be wearing it on the runway...bad... And at this point it doesn't matter if it's real or not. It looks real enough for most people to think it's real. This is all on VS...but I doubt they care... 1. I have not facts, but she does have that rep. 2. I and other Candice Supporters have a full and happy life. However, I can always make time to support someone I really like. 3. I understand business quite well. I know friendship and business should not necessarily mix. However, had this been done to Adriana her fans would do their best to shut down VS. 4. I agree that Adriana is more of US household name than Candice, but this should not be. VS has a partnership with CBS and has used its primetime might to promote Angels in the past....See Hawaii-Five-O. A primetime CBS blitz would launch Candice into the stratosphere. One look at her and viewers from coast to coast will be left stunned. How can she match Adriana's name recognition if VS does not try? 5. They could have done this when Candice got back and still promoted before Dec 10th. 6. This was VS's choice to make, not CBS. 7. Knowing Candice, this may not bother her, or if it does, she likely won't say anything.

I was hoping it was a replica. Because of the resolution of the pic, it is so hard to tell. But, the posters on tumblr make some great points. 1. Why have the two bodyguards if the bra is fake? 2. Why would the surrounding cast tweet pictures of the bodyguards? 3. The Fantasy Bra is molded for Candice but resizable. 4. Crazy Ones offered a spot for an Angel to promote the Fashion show. VS not only chooses Adrianna, they put her in the FB. 5. Does VS really have time to just whip up a replica outfit in the middle of fashion show planning? Its not looking good for Candice and her supporters.

^^^ Wow...the plot thickens. If this is indeed the real Fantasy Bra, complete with bodyguards, there will be blood. I will think the worst of VS and Adriana. Had no idea the bra was resizable. The show "Crazy Ones" offered VS a shot to promote one of their Angels that will air on Dec 5. Not only do they choose Adrianna, they give her the Fantasy Bra.

No one has attacked Adri or Ale. Adri is known for drama...that is a fact. Candice supporters are justifiably upset. Candice is being pimped out like VS's whore and getting slapped around. We won't stand for it.

Yes, don't take out the torches and pitchforks just yet. Let's all just wait and see what happens before jumping into any conclusions. If someone did indeed make a bitch move or was being a d-bag, I will be there with you all to stand up for the injustice! There is a consensus among Candice supporters that an injustice has occurred, replica or not. Unless they can prove that they have done something like this with past A-plus models like Candice, I'm just not sure this can be justified. This Adris last year would not explain or justify this move. They didn't do this for Gisselle or Heidi that we know of. Through in the fact that Adri has a reputation of being difficult to deal with, and you just have to cry foul. Because a magazine has a bad rep does not mean its always wrong. I hope you are right, but Adri is the prime suspect. This could also just be a horrible, horrible marketing ploy by VS.