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@AnnaBBarrosFan :wub2: I stand corrected but SI South Africa is likely a 'lesser' version of SI. and there are many SI models who starred in their local pages before graduating to the biggie that is SI USA If anything Candice appearing in the South African version confirms my theory. It was a stepping stone / exposure niche. As she appears to be head VS angel - I said 'appears' , - right now with the most exposure, name recognition and bankability, she would be a natural to grace the pages of SI USA. Instead we are seeing her doing runway for Jason Wu and ad campaigns for Versace, Atwood and Oscar De La Renta. She seems to be emulating peeps like Gisele, Doutzen and Karlie who successfully segued HF with their VS work With other beauties Adriana, Rosie, Erin, Miranda e.t.c (forgive me if I've left anyone out) still doing working the books & runways (e.g Rosie for San Paolo) I simply do not believe for a moment that it is a coincidence that high profile VS reps/angels are running in the other direction when it comes to doing stuff like SI. Also, Sophia Neophitou's controversial remarks on Kate Upton suggests to me it is a philosophy ingrained.

EU -(well the UK is half/half what with not being in the Euro and all ) - 3

Well, I don't often post on this side of forum, more of a reader. But I have a theory. I think Gisele and those other models mentioned by MissLimaVlza made a concious decision NOT to do SI. Incredible as it may appear now but when Gis first came out she was considered curvy - 'The Boobs from Brazil' and would have seemed a natural for their pages I believe Gisele side stepped the route of Heidi S to establish herself more with the High Fashion crowd. Fashion like most things is quite segregated and hierarchical and there is an underlying presumption that once you go down the bikini/lingerire route you can kiss the exclusive runways and front covers of Vogue/Harpers Bazzar goodbye. The new VS models are aware of this and feel they already do enough sexy shoots with their parent company The closest they would come to lads mags' are those considered for the 'thinking man' GQ and probably Esquire (The Kate Upton debate is only proof of this - though I think with the behemoth that is IMG in her corner Kate will do well) I am 100% sure that SI has called both Candice and Miranda but instead we've seen both doing the Prada, Balenciaga runways and sign contracts with De Renta and Versace. I believe this is a deliberate strategy. Also SI covers are increasingly a transient thing. The hype lasts 3 months max. Its up to the models to build their brands. Some do it better then others. The past SI cover and inside models of 3 years have not taken it to the next level in the modelling world IMO. Though Brooklyn diversified into the movies, the reason Irina Shayk still gets so much attention in Europe is largely because of her association with Ronaldo who is a superstar in these parts. But other than that the big names in fashion don't exactly come calling and the VS models are very aware of that

I'm not sure what you meant by mention them specifically. I think that has happened to several girls. I remember that many fans of Blake posted often here and once they break up, they decided not to post more. And that also applies to some Leo's fans that use to post on her thread and they don't do it anymore. Oh, you misunderstand. I'm obsessed with fashion blogs -The Fashion Spot, Red Carpet, Bellazon and I notice regulars. I do not mean posters/fans of other celebrities ( Lukas, Blake, Gisele) who cross-over. I meant fans of the individual here - Leo From my past reading Fashion Dream, Winterborne, Laurenp85 were longtime Leo fans/posters for sure and they were positive towards Blake but don't post much anymore. It happens in all forums yep, and now Barilace would not think everyone was shading an individual for the hell of it but just the people who would be more inclined to that individual have changed/moved etc Anyway this is moving the conversation from Leo and I did not mean to cause that. So THE END Anyway I'm still mourning Germany losing the semi finals last night

Thanks a lot By Princess. If you ever have such a list or find one please post it on here and I can foward it. Same to you Katchitup Oh and if I may add only to this discussion. I'm not in this forum but I do love and follow general news and goss, We do not know the logistics of any person's relationship or the polite machinations after the fact to make both parties look good. But what the tabloids and radio DJs said of Leo's behaviour in Australia from the start was NOT of a man in a relationship. Whether it was going to nightclubs like The Beach Hauus, inviting pretty girls to his tables (with his bodyguards confiscating pictures/evidence) and taking them 10 at a time to King's Cross, raised eye brows from the beginning of his stay in Sydney and long before his split with Blake was ever announced. And of course after the break the parade of beautiful girls on his balcony Please understand this is NOT a slam on Leo, but I can assure you many people do not see him to be a saintly figure in his relationships. I will leave it at that. BTW By Princess & Katchitup it does not necessarily have to be GQ magazine, any stylish/lifestyle publication would be great. Yes but leo did all this during the time blake was starting to canoodle with ryan :brows: Not saying leo is innocent, Just saying I think this split worked both ways And I can't really think of any best dressed lists he was on........I think for some award shows, he has been on best dressed lists, other than that I can't think of any And I feel bad for ya'll having to wait..... Thanks for the response. OK so we wont add Leo 's name to the list. TBF he's not exactly a fashionista Then again few of his peers are. Not Matt, Ben so its all cool My last comment on this and well Katchitup....... the nightclub sightings & Beach Hauus shenanigans were BEFORE the split was announced And Emma Stone, Frieda Pinto, Kate Cassidy, Emma Watson e.t..c have ALL announced they had crushes on Leo. Not surprising they were all in the same range when Jack Dawson was born and two of them have since met Leo I don't think its fair to single out Blake for saying something almost all her peers did or single out based on tabloid rumors. (Especially as some of his other exes have made indirect disparging remarks about him ) But I guess Blake supporters like FashionDream, Winterborne don't really post here anymore. Thanks again Katchitup and if Leo does make such a list pls post it

Thanks a lot By Princess. If you ever have such a list or find one please post it on here and I can foward it. Same to you Katchitup Oh and if I may add only to this discussion. I'm not in this forum but I do love and follow general news and goss, We do not know the logistics of any person's relationship or the polite machinations after the fact to make both parties look good. But what the tabloids and radio DJs said of Leo's behaviour in Australia from the start was NOT of a man in a relationship. Whether it was going to nightclubs like The Beach Hauus, inviting pretty girls to his tables (with his bodyguards confiscating pictures/evidence) and taking them 10 at a time to King's Cross, raised eye brows from the beginning of his stay in Sydney and long before his split with Blake was ever announced. And of course after the break the parade of beautiful girls on his balcony Please understand this is NOT a slam on Leo, but I can assure you many people do not see him to be a saintly figure in his relationships. I will leave it at that. BTW By Princess & Katchitup it does not necessarily have to be GQ magazine, any stylish/lifestyle publication would be great.

Sorry to bother you Katchitup. but you always seem to be on top of things fashion wise Do you by any chance know if Leo was on the GQ best dressed list 2010/2011?? Compiling a list so IF you have any articles or stuff pls post and I can foward Leo's name. Thanks ETA - Is this actually a Leo forum or referendum-judgement on Leo's girlfriends? LOL

With all due respect this is a BLAKE forum <_< Haven't posted in a while and I appreciate she's been low key now for whatever reason. Good for her I actually hope shes working on her French/reading sripts while decorating But its slightly tiresome when you think we have news on her its someone posting Ryan pics/news I get some people are fans of Ryan and all, but he does NOT define Blake. No b-friend does I similar to Arya (sic) would prefer to hear about her work/fashion. I wish like others actresses this could focus more on her as an individual not on Blyan/Rake whateva Not an upteenth post about how cute she and Ryan are. If they split some 2 or 3 this board are going to need therapy! And Lainey does not know squat. She obsesses about Blake because it brings hits/moolah to her site :yuckky:

True that. As a non smoker I just always liked the idea that she and Leighton differed from the ususal party girl images of yore. The most we see them at r fashion shows not stumbling out of nightclubs with their asses on show. So 4 me tha was always in her favour For the upteenth time this double standard issue being raised is tiresome. I can say stuff I find cool or kinda por taste I dont care bout the fact moving on its just with WHOM. As I said it is someone who hung out with them Sure its her choice but this is an opinion forum yes? And I'm not alone of that idea Sure its her life My beef is that it has given peeps a stick to beat her even more with Look at that random individual 2 pages on here back that doesnt normally post but came on to remark about her chasing A listers. What was that about? But is reflective of what peeps say of her no Look at the crap Ted Casablancas writes about how she would be perfect for the Grace Kelly role. Nudge, Nudge Wink Wink We both know what hes inferring and it aint a compliment.# I could easily bow ot of posting though if its only a 'Blake the Great' mantra to preach

Hey there We're all entitled to our opinion as I say I'm not an apostle and see no probs in calling her or ppl I like out on stuff or what ppl attacke her and others on stuff Not that they listen

I would be genuinely surprised. One of the things I liked about Blake was shes diff from the nightclubbing hard rolling 20 sthg crowd- Paris, Mischa et al Fashion was her drug of choice if u will Resolutely teetotal and non-smoking. First RR at break neck speed Now this My stanning for you Blakie is diminishing at a fast rate :yuckky:

Erm I wont read too much into all that ALL the guys Blake has been linked to - Leo , Penn, Ryan - are ALL Scorpios She appears drwan to them for some reason this could refer to any one Then again I gotta say I'm mega cynical about horoscope predictions

That is way COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!

Not a joke but Lainey needs severe therapy <_< Her obsession with Blake is getting to the point that the few times Blake goes on a red carpet - her last appearance was in August- its interpreted for the most nefarious reasons and wild conspiracy theories attached to Blakes motives. Even worse loads of people read Lainey and ape her Is there a reason that she feels she has to write about Blake and turn it into a slagathon even when she does sthg as harmless a going to a bloody shoe launch?

Blyan? I love BLYAN!!! Sounds perfect. From People online Ryan Reynolds Spends Birthday Weekend with Blake Lively http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20539369,00.html Christ look at the comments under the People website And thats actually moderated Im ticked cos this not only puts the kibosh on a BLEO reunion I was hoping for But Blake as a young actress and international covergirl not only needs men to want her but women to like her and is those comments on People are a tame barometer of what people think then shes in a heck of ish Women appear to be calling her sthg unpleasnt I dread the other untamed websites. And yes public opinion/ reputation does MATTER for an up and coming actress. We cant pretend otherwise Can anyone contact Leslie Whatserface!!

Hi Desira The truth is we'll NEVER know what made them end it I think its speaks callously of Blake if people believe it ended so she could get with someone else I think we should try to refrain from rumor mongering as we can.

Hi all No Lulu Not sweet at all :yuckky:

Hi All No :yuckky: Not sweet Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/lively_tri...I#ixzz1bUxu8EFL sweet

Oh and Hi Katchitup

You're both right But I stand by my opinion that it is weird because Ryan did hang out with the two of them while they were dating Maybe I'm not enlightened enough but thats just off to me if it wasnt someone that appeared to be an acquaintance of the 2 of them! Oh and Leo's people have denied the model links categorically to both Perez and Gossip cop as per their site Now are there other models? Oh I'm sure but at least I hope they didnt know Blake. I hope Leos classy enough to not make his next conquest a mutual friend of theres HW is incestous anyway. But as I say IMO and from what I'm reading for a young actress in cut throat HW this is hurting Blake.

Thats true Lainey spouts some serious nonsense I thot she said Ryan wouldnt go there and Blake was pressuring Leo to take her on the red carpet now shes done a 360! The problem fo me is I DID believe her when she said she had insiderness about Leo and Blake So I cant pick and choose according to what I prefer to listen to And you're wise to stay off some blogs Leo fans are severly pissed at these rumors ( with justification to me) to say the least so she can add them to her 'troubled public' list U only need to look at some comments under Perez Not good for longevity in the movie fraternity especially for females!!!

I think those piccies are old Her hair hasnt been like that in a while It was probs the tarot reading pictures For me Blakes agent or PR are doing her a diservice with these rumors/facts on her personal life overriding any work And giving a megative impression of her I gotta be honest and yes I mean crazy Lainey Too bad :|

Hi Jou Jou, You're right no one knows what went down but still.............. Concerning Anna I actually thought that spoke really well of him and Blake's relationship cos Leo was haggling the photog and explaining himself to the guy! Now we know Leo wont spit on the paps if they were on fire and I took that as a sign of change in him, that he really cared about her for the pic no to be misconstrued We all know about Leo and models I'm sure hes friends with A LOT of them eg Karolina Kurkova, Candace Swaponel He's practically a VS shareholder!!!!!!! So to me him chatting to one did not seem that big a deal But I cant share ur happiness Im afraid the only thing that would make me feel worse is if J Edagr gets bad reveiws!

OK I have to say my piece as a Blake fan but not a worshipper YUUUKKKKKK :yuckky: :yuckky: Maybe cos I loved she and Leo so much but Ryan? Didnt he hang out with the two of them? Didnt she and Leo break up 2 seconds ago? Why? How? Men I best stay clear of some blogs because Blake is gonna be torn to shreds

You're mistaken Barbie I was NOT calling Leo a paedophile I was reporting that unfortunately some pages on Facebook were And I thot that was out of order as it is based on unsubstantiated rumors