Aranka

I never knew you had breast cancer Anyway....I apologize for my previous comments then with this new knowlegde. Since we started out treating each other on sword point the first time we had any interaction there really was no time to find out for me the specific reason why you took plastic surgery. Previously I was thinking it was just for esthetic or self-image reasons, but having it for a medical reason put's it into different perspective. Hope you can forgive me

Real prog or fake prog? Bands must be told! As per me: Ella Fitzgerald, Elton John, Rush (duh), Matthew Good The whole list ?? - Anglagard - Magenta - Symphony X - Shadow Gallery - Jethro Tull - Psychotic Waltz - Tool - Camel - Rush - Haken - Nemo - Atheist - Orphaned Land - Renaissance - Fates Warning - Kamelot - Pain of Salvation - Maudlin of the well - Inducti - The Decembrists - Peter Hammil - IQ - Marillion - Porcupine Tree - Focus - Cynic - Alan Parson Project - Grindrolog - Anathema - Caravan - Genesis - Unexpect - Green Carnation - Yes - Gazpacho - Redemption - Kansas - Steve Hackett - Disillusion - Neal Morse - Sieges Even - King Crimson - Gryphon - Gentle Giant - Hawkwind - Eloy - Devin Townsend - Savatage - Mike Oldfield - Beardfish - Dream Theater - Liquid Tension Experiment - Blind Guardian - Demons and Wizards - Sylvan - Sigur Ros - Peter Gabriel - Ayreon - Riverside - Threshold - Return to Forever - Arena - Magma - Tangerine Dream - Phideaux - Dun - Queensryche - Kayo Dot - Al di Meola - Opeth - Gojira - Van der Graaf Generator - Kraftwerk - Pink Floyd - Premiato Forneria Marconi - Bacamarte - Banca del Muoto Soccorso - Mahavishnu Orchestra - Harmony Not in any specific order........ Proggy enough ?? Feel free to ask me anything about any of the bands, know them quite well P.S --> I know you got your name from one of the song's in the moving pictures album (From Rush). Personally I liked YYZ, Tom Sawyer and Witch Hunt the most from it.

Well you should thank "the creator" for that He seems to have done good work on you then

I am completly into all kinds of prog, be it soft melodic to extreme/tech metal. I like it proggy

Ah...they are not that popular ?? That's too bad....never looked there myself much so I wouldn't know. Don't know but male models usually do not do it for me. They seem too arrogant or sure of themselves and then you have models who look almost like girls which I don't like either. An actor which I do like a lot was the one who played Hector in the film Troy. This may sound strange but the most attractive guy I've ever seen is actually a game character. Geralt of Rivia just has it all for me. Alas, I seem to believe too much in fairy tales and nonsense like that.

A meal at the cantina of CMC Vellore

A gender does not have to define preference And besides, even as a heterosexual girl I could enjoy the esthetics of a beautifull female

Hello to you and I for one do accept another member on BZ

You can find a survey "amongst men" to say a lot of things just by virtue of the fact that there's billions of people in the world and countless survey. What makes a survey valid is how many people were surveyed and who was surveyed. With that information, not only does the information become valid, but the other person may then adequately decide whether said stats are relevant or not. A survey 'of women' said they like 6'1 more than 6'6. That looks authoritative on its own....but the truth is only 30 women were surveyed . So, regardless of the subject matter, unless one is running a political campaign I suppose, how many and who/where are what make stats relevant. And even aside, based on not only comparing the attention they get in everyday life, but the number of women with fat bank accounts solely on the grounds of their breasts and the size they generally are, I find it hard to believe that survey represents the 'average' man. But I bet if Keeley Hazel, for example were C she wouldn't be nearly as popular and likely not famous at all. And look how much Pamela Anderson's career took off when she upgrated from C to DD and look how it went down the toilet when she took them out and overnight got back on track when she got them back. That's not to say 'every' man, but their popularity and those like them is male driven and probably a greater indication of a larger numbe of men. That's not to say one is 'better' than the other one of course. You do not need to explain scientific research to me Joe. I'm perfectly capable of doing that myself thank you. It was just that I was too bored to go explain a simple fact other people could also just look up. Besides, stating your first argument and then trying to base a claim based on examples is pretty much shooting yourself in the leg. Granted, if we bring up a statement from an external source we should give it and describe the extent of it. What do you do ? You state something and then without giving proof just name 2 people, a porn actress and a what... a singer ?? to define the general attitude towards females. I will not deny that there isn't a market for women with large breasts, like porn industry, but it is not seen as ideal or perfect girlfriend-material (or a fling must be regarded as a girlfriend) Are you not forgetting that a lot of topmodels, you being an active member of bellazon.com should know, have C or smaller breasts ?? But to explain where I got my statement from here some sites: One site Another site Another site And of course you have other articles but may I point out that these have rather economic interests related to them (like a plastic surgeon) : Stating that men prefer larger breasts Besides...all these studies are based on a Western point of view since breast size seems to be less of an issue in other cultures.

Thanks Aranka. Love your signature pic. 'Hallo' by the way, is that the correct Dutch greeting in this context? Hallo would indeed be a proper dutch greeting in this context yes And it's nice of you to comment on my signature pic

Ah, but hun you forget, in her world WE are the ignorant ones Not ignorant really...that's not the word I was looking for.

Welcome to bellazon And about your image being a bit simplistic...it's okay...from your story we can at least tell you seem to be motivated

I'm now living in the province of Limburg, so the southern part of the Netherlands

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Well you can't really blame us for an inapproriate question to the male gender. After all...this seems to be the "girls talk" area

...Going to sleep right now

Also a warm welcome from me and don't listen to liika, female models are also okay Hope you have a good time here

Well let me be the first to welcome you to bellazon About fashion designers...wouldn't know really, not so interested in them myself....guess they would have threads on them though Btw, Hope you'll recover your health back soon

Just have a few things to say to this: 1) It indeed is VERY close minded to pass on global reference. Like for instance putting your own wants and desires as norm for all the women out there by stating that if woman could get a boob job 70% would take it. To summarize that...close minded does come to mind. 2) Nowhere did I say you needed breasts to get a job. If you would read carefully before commenting on something you're not even really aware of on what you're commenting you can avoid foolish errors like this. I was actually just refuting the point of someone else who stated that big breasts would get you jobs easier. 3) With regards to the self-esteem issue I'll have to disagree with you. Yes, people can be upset about certain aspects of their body. But the problem itself is not one of the flesh, but more of the mind. It isn't really a problem that one part of themselves is maybe esthetically unpleasing, but more so the PERCEPTION of it being unpleasing. People might get plastic surgery to "improve" their esthetic image, but since there is still this perception of not being on par with a sort of ideal, the low self-esteem even AFTER surgery will remain. It would be more advisable to tackle the self-image question and so digging to the root of the problem. Finally...consideration is given where it is approriate and just to hand it out. She was just asking for it by her really biased reaction.

Totally agree. The jealous ones are always the ones who look down on others. Well nowhere did I make ANY personal reference in what I was writing. But seemingly my thoughts, being just global ideas, led to such unreasonable reactions that there might be some sort of self-doubt about it which was then projected onto me for just postulating an idea out there. Anyone who looked clearly at what I read would see that it was just a general notion. I can't help it, that you all are offended at it, but I'll just write it off on personal issues. Pretty sure I will get a response now about how wrong I am on stating this or that I am full of crap but seriously, I couldn't care less for such unbased provocation. Anyway...have a good night ladies

Going to sleep right now

Funny...I actually just responded to Qball who stated that having big boobs would get you more hotter guys. His comment you did not deign to react too. Now that I suddenly stated that it might actually not be the case since men declared they would like middle shaped breast you are all getting defensive and touchy about it. It's okay if certain wrong tags are placed on people just as long as you are not labelled negatively in any way right ? Personally I believe breast size is not such a major factor in getting boys. Your overall look is dependent on more factors and personality also plays a role. I would never suggest that there is like one thing which would determine one's succes on that field. With that regard I would agree with you. But really, from a psychological point of view.........your reaction surely is priceless

Girls....you all are forgetting something....you are saying they got implants AFTER getting their job ?? Doesn't that ring a bell that during a job sollicitation interview it says nothing about their prior condition ?? Besides, an open question....if you would be applying to become a doctor, a judge or for a high posting in a company would you try to cover up your curves (if you had them) a bit and try to wear modest clothing ? Now I am not saying girls with large boobs will not get a job. Surely they can...but having like a G cup will not aid your efforts on that department. And btw...don't take this as a sort of personal attack that I would somehow suggest that since you have big boobs you would be inadequate for your jobs, but I'm just stating that there might be a certain stigma attached to it in more conservative departments.

I think the mysterious part of it does not come from seeing only body parts but out of the authentic (older age) looking part of it and the clever interplay between colours in the seperate parts. But yeah.....THESE pictures do have something mysterieus

Ah yeah, you're right. Guess you shouldn't trust the internet then I guess, they make BIG errors Like here: http://guestofaguest.com/galleries/2009/11...on-show/104092/ They confused Lindsay Frimodt with Lindsay Ellington....a pretty bad thing to do if they are so much into photography