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  1. I guess I was trying to talk about more mainstream success. In general these models tend to be older. Of course you need to appeal to the younger audience (like Tyra did with ANTM and before that with VS) but the young girls and young women will be there anyway, the real key is to grab everybody's attention (so you can sell that magazine cover and interview like regular Hollywood actresses).

  2. It's a little unfair to compare Candice with older Angels and then say she is unpopular. The masses (regular women who are interested in celebrities, buy women's magazines etc.) don't really give a shit about a hottie model in her early 20's sharing her "beauty secrets" but they can care if a model is around 30, still looks hot and beautiful, maybe has a child and is definitely leading an aspirational lifestyle. Models like Adriana and Miranda have that potential, models like Candice can't yet. No young model has mass appeal amongst everyday women. That time comes later if they play their cards right.

    Calling the paparazzi yourself is lame but at the same time I understand why some are doing it. Let's take Miranda for example. She is coming to a stage in her life where she could become really successful, I mean the kind of success where she wouldn't have to use Victoria's Secret's name to justify her relevance. So maybe she and other models figure that calling the paparazzi is a price they are willing to pay if it means that they have chance to gain long term success in the entertainment industry.

  3. It might not even be about Kate's "bitchiness". Maybe the other girls think that her getting the cover again was just too unfair or that they weren't really given a chance.

    I think that a video where Genevieve talks to MJ and Darcie is very interesting. She seemed to think that Kate's cover had already been planned ahead of time but the editors were quick to say that every shot is a possible cover.

    So maybe some girls felt really amazing during their shoot (like Nina who seemed to be really optimistic about getting a cover) and when they found out Kate got the cover again and was the only one sent to Antarctica to shoot it must have felt like everything was a sham...

  4. No harm intended at least on my part. I just thought that the video was pretty interesting in light of the discussion on previous pages about her popularity.

    In this next video you can see the situation more clearly. She is smiling and even dancing for the paparazzi.

  5. Body types that Victoria's Secret should represent and examples

    Traditional lingerie and swimsuit model body: Adriana Lima, Bar Refaeli, Heidi Klum

    Crazy curvy: Tyra Banks

    Truly unique body (down to genetics not just dieting and exercising): Candice Swanepoel

    Skinny but still looks good: Miranda Kerr

    Glamazon: Karolina Kurkova

    Athletic: Doutzen Kroes, Marisa Miller

    I have my own personal preference when it comes to an "ideal" body but I think VS would be well off if they truly tried to have models with different body types. I feel like most of the girls that they have right now fit in the "skinny" category which is a shame because it's not like it happened just because their models lost weight (Candice).

    Some of my examples are of course outdated but my guess is that VS isn't actively looking for new models whose bodies resemble Tyra's or Heidi's bodies (when they were still angels) because they hire models like Lindsay, Erin, Chanel and Lily who are pretty but they all fit pretty much in the "skinny" category. It’s annoying when one type is over-represented.

  6. Not to discount either side on this and forgive me if I sound ignorant, but does it really matter if she ahs or hasn’t had implants? She is in a business where one’s looks are the only key to success, so if her, or any other model, does have surgery to help them with their career, what harm does it do?

    It’s not like an athlete taking a illegal PED to help them perform better.

    Or is it more being disillusioned that she was not all natural (which I doubt there are many models around that are).

    If she has had any done, I find it hard to tell the difference, especially since a woman’s body can change after having a baby. And IF she has had some work done, well at least she didn’t go overboard with it, like some tend to do.

    I actually think that models who have had plastic surgery can be likened to athletes & doping in a way. In both cases the people who model / play sports are already good but some of them go under the knife / do drugs to get an edge over their competition. That puts pressure on others who are "natural". Whether the others will cave under the pressure or not is another matter.

    The way I feel about someone's plastic surgery depends on what kind of message they try to send. If the say stuff like "Oh, just love your body! Inner beauty counts, not outside beauty!" and they have had plastic surgery... They are being a hypocrite. They should own up and say "Okay, I have had plastic surgery and I don't think there is anything wrong with that / I have done it but wouldn't do it again". It's not cool to lie about it because models, actresses etc. are portrayed as examples of what is beautiful and therefore surgery isn't just their business.

    It's kind of sad that if you are naturally beautiful others might not believe you because there are tons of people out there who lie about their surgically enhanced looks.

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