Posts posted by k_dub
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In response to your question, I think he just wanted to shut up Dunn at the time. Also, it seemed that he was reading it fine before Dunn knocked the book out his hands. However, he was looking at a picture in the book at the time.
in this case, it was revealed that he could not read, hence why after Dunn was beaten down he asked for someone to read it to everyone. Obviously he just didn't want to give him the satsifaction of knowing he is illiterate
Which begs the question why his wife brought him a book in the 1st place.
Moving on, I would just like to ask some questions about the last episode. Chalky losing his grip on his constituency, is that the reason why he took it out on his family? Now we know why Jillian didn't want the Commodore to go to the hospital. Thing is, how bad did she beat up to Commodore, to death maybe? Eli is freaking out because with the Commodore's current condition, Nucky might get the upper hand back again, and he already promised he would ruin all of them. Jimmy might be in the driver's seat now, and the deal he made in Philly will add more tension between him and Nucky. However, in previous episodes, it looks like he might be able to forgive Nucky. MIGHT. And to LMS, you saw Micky Doyle's warehouse explode, right? Van Alden's guys were there, and as you saw, one of them is definitely going to the HOSPITAL.
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In episode 2 last week, The Commodore was quite confident that Nucky was on the ropes and would be rendered powerless before long. After this week's epsidode entitled "A Dangerous Maid", I'm certain the Commodore doesn't feel that way after their confrontation inside the restaurant. Nucky simply won't go away quietly.
Van Alden Returns After a One-Week Hiatus
Everyone's favorite scumbag and creep Nelson Van Alden (Michael Shannon) returns this week. Lucy Danziger is really, really pregnant and looks like she could have his child any day. And, she's also being held prisoner by Van Alden "per their agreement."
She wants to get out of this virtual prison (a seedy apartment Van Alden put her up in), but he won't let her until she satisfies her end of the agreement. Later on in the episode she is ready to throw herself down the steps, when a special delivery comes in the form of a record. This music saves her from complete madness. Even Van Alden can't take it away from her when he comes to the apartment to see her dancing.
Something tells me this won't end very well. Either Lucy will commit suicide or Van Alden will murder her before or after she has the kid. There is a brilliant, subtle, dark undertone to this storyline which the writers and director of Boardwalk are carefully playing up to. And, you know something disturbing will come out of this...
Al Delivers the Bad News to Nucky
Al Capone has a sit-down with Nucky and delivers the bad news to him. Torrio found a new supplier and is moving in another direction. Nucky pries Al for information on this "new supplier" and is told simply they are from Canada.
Deep down Nucky has to know that the Commodore is behind this, which is he is. Right after the meeting, Al heads over to Jimmy's house and they have some catching up to do. Al is in town to settle his father's affairs who just passed away. His father was a barber, which Al claims worked him to death, but you can see that this honest form of living was something Al did respect.
Nucky and Jimmy Square Off at The Restaurant
Nucky tells Margaret to get dressed so he can take her out for a fancy dinner. Once they get there the hostess didn't realize he was coming as he sees The Commodore and Jimmy dining at a table. Nucky doesn't give in and wants to get a table anyway.
Nucky eyeballs the table as he walks by and when Margaret is told they are out of lobster it's the final straw for The Nuckster who sees The Commodore chowing down on a big one.
He rushes over to their table and promptly throws the Commodore's expensive dinner on the floor and tells him it's his last dinner inside this restaurant and that he will ruin all of them.
Jimmy gets in Nucky's face and is ready to deck him when Nucky gives him the business about The Commodore. The truth is The Commodore is only Jimmy's father by accident - he just happened to pick his Mom to sleep with that night.
When Jimmy goes home he's asked how his Dad is doing and he responds "which one?"
Jimmy is playing the game right now to rise up, but don't be suprised to see him side with Nucky at the end of the day. He was always more of a father to him than his elderly counterpart.
One final thing to point out is an emerging character on the show - Owen Slater. He has a proposition for Nucky in that he wants to step up and provide some muscle. Nucky doesn't say anything and he thanks him for his time. Slater makes his first move when he steps in and refuses a liquor shipment, which is about to be delivered. Look for Slater to play a critical role in Nucky's battles this season.
You forgot one thing: what was going on in NYC. Arnold Rothstein, Meyer Lansky and Lucky Luciano had a sit-down with Joe "The Boss" Masseria(who was a real person, I might add). Obviously, he is angry that his guys were murdered after the left Meyer's place of business, and that they should come to a arrangement before any more blood should be shed. Rothstein agrees. Joe gets up and speaks to Luciano in Italian. He says "What are you doing with these Christ killers?", referring to Rothstein and Lansky, who are Jewish. He continues, "Join me and I'll make you rich", then leaves.
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“Ourselves Alone”, the second episode of Boardwalk Empire‘s second season, is brilliant and the fact that the show is firing on all cylinders this earlier in the season shows that Terence Winter and company have a good grasp on how things are going to play out over these twelve episodes. And the smartest thing they did was have Nucky Thompson (Steve Buscemi) arrested. So while he’s busy doing some damage control to fix his reputation, and to fend off The Commodore’s (Dabney Coleman) brand new posse of politicos — and newly dyed hair — three characters get to shine in ways they haven’t in Season One.
JIMMY DARMODY: Jimmy (Michael Pitt) travels to New York City, on the behest of his father, to meet with Arnold Rothstein (Michael Stuhlbarg). He wants Rothstein to end his deal with Nucky and to go into illegal booze business with him and his cohorts instead. Rotherstein is taken by his gumption, and the fact that Jimmy rose up quick through the political/gangster world in Atlantic City, but he can’t simply jump ship as of yet. Jimmy is disappointed at the not-rejection but his mother’s lover, Lucky Luciano (Vincent Piazza) tells him that he has been on Meyer Lansky’s (Anatol Yusef) radar and invents him to his underground poker game.
Lansky’s world isn’t as glamorous as Rothstein’s. His underground poker game is really underground, as in only the riffiest of raffs come to play. It’s blue collar and immigrant as it gets, a far cry from The Ritz where guys like Rothstein, Nucky, and The Commodore could feel at home.
Lansky offers to go into business with Jimmy, if he agrees to deal his heroin on The Boardwalk. It’s a brand new endeavor, one that not many people in the 1920′s understand or are aware of.
Jimmy walks away from the poker game, a little richer, when two of the riff raffs attempt to mug him. Jimmy is clam, cool, collective, and a f***ing badass when it comes to slicing throats. He might not have taken Manhattan they way he originally planned, but he’s taken it nonetheless.
CHALKY WHITE: Chalky (Michael Kenneth Williams) is still sitting in a jail cell, to both punish him for killing a Klan member and to protect him from the racist lynch mob calling for his blood. He even shares a cell with Nucky for a short while, proof of how powerful both of these men are. Or how powerful Nucky is because when Nucky is bailed out, Chalky is transferred to a ‘Blacks Only’-cell, which happens to include a borderline psychopathic man named Dunn (Erik LaRay Harvey) who has no problems ogling Chalky’s wife and making fun of the book she left for her husband. (She leaves him a copy of “David Copperfield” but when Dunn demands to know what book Chalky is holding, Chalky tells him it’s “Tom Sawyer”.)
Dunn’s berating doesn’t end there. He goes on about Chalky’s ‘zip coon’ clothing and the like, pretty much insinuating that Chalky is an ‘Uncle Tom’. Dunn talks to the other men in the cell as if Chalky isn’t one of them. He even knocks the book out of Chalky’s hands. All in the while, Chalky sits silently, biting his tongue. He’s calm, cool, and collective — much like Jimmy — but he also has more power than other people think. When Chalky grows tired of Dunn’s jealous shenanigans, he asks his cellmates to remember all of the awesome things he did for them and their families. When they do, he asks them to return they favor. And they do, by beating the living shit out of Dunn.
And with the stomps of the men’s feet, Chalky White declares himself a badass gangsta and Mayor of Black Atlantic City.
(Question: did we also get a reveal that Chalky can’t read? Or was he feigning dumb regarding the book’s title as a ways of shutting Dunn up the first time?)
MARGARET SCHROEDER: Margaret (Kelly Macdonald), in the meantime, is contending with the aftermath of Nucky’s arrest at home. It sucks because as the help try to keep the news from her, she and they have to plan out an important dinner that will involve members of the IRA — and it also happens to be Valentine’s Day. (She did get a nice card that was handmade by her children.) When she she finally reads the newspaper, she asks the maid for her coat and goes to Nucky’s office incognito as a poor, pregnant Irish lass looking for some assistance (an amazing callback to her introduction in the Pilot episode). There she meets the men investigating her lover, pretends to need to go to the bathroom, and grabs Nucky’s ‘secret’ ledger and $20,000 (give or take). She reveals what she’s done to Nucky with the advice that he burn the ledger and start memorizing the ‘kick backs’ he receives. Nucky may still be corrupt but damn him if Margaret loses another man.
We get a couple of very interesting meetings in “Ourselves Alone”. There’s one where Nucky and the IRA — which include Joe McGarrigle, a straight laced Protestant-hating lanky hulk of a man (kinda of an oxymoronic description but if you’ve seen the episode, you know what I’m talking about) and a rather charming Irish rogue (Charlie Cox) — come to an agreement of how much he will donate to their fight against the British. There’s another where The Commodore introduces Eli (Shea Whingham) to the ‘powers that be’ — which includes The Sopranos’ Dominic Chianese — after Eli calls Nucky at his office and taunts him for being left out in the wind. (Chianese, in two episodes, has only said a few words and they happen to be in Latin. Weird but kind of creepy as well. It’s intriguing but here’s hoping that we get more of a glimpse into what his character’s all about.)
By the end of the episode, Nucky takes center stage again. Margaret sweetly asks him who is plotting his downfall. He answers: “all of them”, including Eli. It’s a heartbreaking admission for a man who had amassed so much power. But in the meantime, others found theirs.
Boardwalk Empire’ Season 2 Episode 2 Review: ‘Ourselves Alone’
In response to your question, I think he just wanted to shut up Dunn at the time. Also, it seemed that he was reading it fine before Dunn knocked the book out his hands. However, he was looking at a picture in the book at the time.
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Great for the hells angels. We are not talking about reality we are talking about a fictional biker gang on a television show.
And I happen to know plenty of REAL BIKERS IN MC CLUBS WHO WOULD GLADLY RIDE WITH ANYONE OF ANY COLOR OR CREED
Yeah, you are talking about REAL MC CLUBS. And by real MC Club I just mean a group of people who just like to ride motorcycles and are not one percenters or are involved in any criminal activity. Yeah, those groups have people who comes from all walks of life. True, this is a fictional biker gang on a TV show, but they wanted to give some authenticity, so they hired consultants who were one time or another members of a outlaw motorcycle club, and those groups are racially exclusive. Sure, the Sons have a few Mexicans, but the Mayans are all Mexican and the Grim Bastards are all black.
Show is getting good. Clay wants Tara dead, and lies to the Mayans why she should die. She knows nothing about the coke, but she found the letters of John Teller, and Jax might find out that Clay and his own mother had John killed. However, former Chief Usner is not down with it, so not only does he leave an anonymous death threat in Tara's car, he even goes to the current Sheriff of Charming Roosevelt to tell him that her life might be in danger and to look out for her. Juice is in a F@#% UP SITUATION!!!
He may have covered up his crime by killing Miles and saving the prospects by returning the coke, but after having that conservation with Chibs about his old lady(who is black) and if the old rules of SAMCRO are still the same racially, I think Chibs suspects something is up with him.
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ok, let's let peace win out here. and sorry k_dub, but the big writing is usually a way people indicate they are yelling when it comes to online messaging, so yes, YF has a valid reason for feeling it was you yelling.
However, let's bith step back, take a deep breath and remember this is a show. There are no udnerlying racial messages here. It is simply being used as a plot device on the show. In the past we have seen the SOA deal with blacks and have never shown any racial discrimination against them. At times it seems they re more "friendly" ith them than the latinos.
They jsut needed somethign to make Juice scared. It is more about fear than race right now.
So the SOA deal with blacks and Latinos: BIG DEAL!!!
Take my oversized text how you want. The Hell's Angels are allies with both the Cali Cartel out of Columbia and the Indian Posse out of Canada, who are Hispanic and Native American, respectively. However, they refused to let Hispanics into their gang because of their race. The rejects later formed the Mongols MC. Just because you tolerate and make dealings with other groups doesn't necessarily make you color-blind.
As for the show and the plot device being used, sure, its more about fear. However, his racial background is the reason why he is scared. My guess is that they wouldn't be cool with it if they found out he was black. Why else would he be so scared?
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I get that it's a show I'm just saying IT MAKES NO SENSE!!! It has nothing to do with all white MC or all Hispanic... I'm just saying they know he isn't white, so why would it matter if he's secretly a purple martian from outer space? If they are going to be racist, be racist don't get picky about one race that isn't yours over another. It's stupid. Of course, it is a tv show and they can do whatever they want with it so it doesn't have to make sense. Like in the 90's when the guy used to tell the girl he'd pick her up at her place even though they'd just met and she didn't give him an address, he just knew where to go
Anywhooooo... The reason I said white is because I am getting confused about his race now
I was thinking that because they are bringing up this black stuff they were contributing the way he looks to being half black and NOT Puerto Rican, like maybe he'd made that up to explain why he didn't look white. As I said before, it would make more sense about why he doesn't know a lick of Spanish.
And please don't get all pissed off at me just because there are some things I may not be catching. I have a pregnant brain, they work different than regular brains, they don't have as much power or work as fast
. I like to say it's because I'm growing a second brain in my uterus and it's using up a lot of the power
Add that to the fact that I'm going through an amazing amount of stress and my daughter is beginning her terrible twos and I'm just a mess
Also, what is with all the big writing? Don't yell at me sir.
I get it that it makes no sense, but it does happen. There was a man named Joe "Pegleg" Morgan who was one of the co-founders and a high ranking member of the Mexican Mafia, and he WAS WHITE!!! The members of his gang knew about his racial background from the get-go, but they didn't care. Also, 18th Street is a predominately Mexican gang, but anybody, regardless of race, can join 18th Street. I already mentioned the Bandidos. I agree with you if you're going to be racist, be racist. However, some groups are picky, and they do make exceptions.
As far as Juice's race, I looked up his character profile on wikipedia, and it says that he is of Puerto Rican and African-American decent. I doubt he used his Puerto Rican ancestry to explain why he doesn't look white though. I doubt Happy and the members of the Sons out of Arizona have to explain why don't look white. And hey, just because you're Latin doesn't necessarily mean you can speak Spanish. I've met a lot of Mexicans who don't know a lick of Spanish.
Sorry your hormones are out of whack.
Hope you have a healthy baby and no postpartem depression after you give birth.
As far the big writing goes, the oversized text is kinda my trademark around here.
Sorry if seemed too intimidating or inflammatory. Just wanted to get my point across, and the big texts help me to do so.
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And I don't get the issue with Juice being part black? They have mexicans out the wazoo but one black guy with make the club fall apart?
One thing about Outlaw Biker Gangs: They are usually racially homogenous and exclusive. All Hell's Angels' members are white, and if you ever seen an episode on Gangland on biker gangs, many members of the racially exclusive white gangs wear swastikas on their jackets. As for the Hispanic Biker gangs, I also believe they don't have any black members. Matter of fact, the only "real" black biker gang I ever heard of are the East Bay Dragons out of Oakland.
Granted, this is just a show, but give the writers credit for keeping it real. The Sons finding out Juice is half-black would be a big deal. If it wasn't, the fact that he is wouldn't have been part of the storyline.
Juice wouldn't even be able to join a black MC, since he's half white too... And if they are supposed to be racially exclusive, why don't they care that he's "Puerto Rican"? Latin is not white
I don't think it would be a huge deal, that Sherriff is just trying to play the card because they don't have any members maybe? I guess it's all gonna be a wait and see...
Remember, I said "GRANTED, THIS IS JUST A SHOW"?!
I was talking about "real" biker gangs, and obviously the "Sons of Anarchy" are not a "real" biker gang.
I don't know much about black MC's, but let's face it, because of slavery, none of my people are 100% black. Do you think they would deny a light-skinned black person? I mean, you can be half-white and join the Nation of Islam. Also, FYI, the Bandidos are one biker gang that is an exception to the rule. Like the Sons, they have White and Hispanic Members.
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And I don't get the issue with Juice being part black? They have mexicans out the wazoo but one black guy with make the club fall apart?
One thing about Outlaw Biker Gangs: They are usually racially homogenous and exclusive. All Hell's Angels' members are white, and if you ever seen an episode on Gangland on biker gangs, many members of the racially exclusive white gangs wear swastikas on their jackets. As for the Hispanic Biker gangs, I also believe they don't have any black members. Matter of fact, the only "real" black biker gang I ever heard of are the East Bay Dragons out of Oakland.
Granted, this is just a show, but give the writers credit for keeping it real. The Sons finding out Juice is half-black would be a big deal. If it wasn't, the fact that he is wouldn't have been part of the storyline.
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What a difference a season makes. Here a recap on the 2nd episode this season:
Nucky sees how his world is crumbling around him. After his arrest, his office is raided. Luckily, Margaret, who is now queen bee of the house who has cooks and nannies who she gets to order around, saves Nucky's ass for the time being by faking a pregnancy so she can ask to use the facilities, and removes the record books and money from the office. She also encourages Nucky that despite everybody is turning their backs on him, he will prevail because he is stronger and smarter than his enemies. Also, there is a dinner at Nucky's house, Irish revolutionaries who at war with England and need weapons to continue the fight, and hoping with his wealth and well-standing, that he can supply them.
Jimmy, who is now in cahoots with his father the Commodore, Nucky's brother Eli, and others plotting to bring Nucky down, goes to New York to make a business dealing with Arnold Rothstein involving liquor. However, even though Lucky Luciano and Meyer Lansky are still under Rothstein, look to strike out on their own by dealing heroin, and they want Jimmy to join them in that enterprise. However, some guys who work for Joe "The Boss" Masseria show up. When Jimmy leaves, they come and threaten him. Even though they disarm him of his gun, he is still handy with his knife, and stabs kill them both.
Chalky White is in jail, which Nucky had Eli arrest in order to protect him. Nucky was jailed with him briefly, but was able to post bail. Chalky's wife visits him while he in jail and gives him a book to read, on the suggestion of his son. While he is in jail he meets some loudmouth who insults Chalky because of the light complexion of his wife and the fact that his nickname is Chalky, despite the fact that he is black. Later, Chalky is moved from a private cell to a cell with that guy and 3 other black guys. That guy continue to insult him and then even rips his book away from him. Then Chalky asks those other inmates about how they are doing and how their families are. This guy now realizes who Chalky is, and when he goes to hit him, the other guys grab him and beat him nearly to death. They get his book back and one of the inmates start to the read the book to him.
We see the Commodore, Eli, and the guys he is in cahoots with talking about how they will bring Nucky down, and how Jimmy will be supplying A.C. with all the liquor that comes in. However, one character, whose name I don't remember at the time, is not down with it, and instead of joining the others, will remain loyal to Nucky.
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Dexter
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Sup, fellow Dexter fans? Sadly, the show didn't win ANY EMMY AWARDS!!!
Anyway, the new season starts October 2nd. However, if you wanna the the season premiere sooner than that, I GOT IT!!!
Here's the link: http://www.fileserve.com/file/xmEbEtg
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R.I.P. Amy Winehouse. Can't say I'm surprised, though. She has been on a downward spiral for some time now, so it just seems like a matter of time. Still, since she was talented singer whose music I bought and enjoyed, always hoped she'd right the ship, and then continue to give us years of more music. Ironically, she died at age 27, and many legendary artists, such as Jimi Hendrix, Curt Cobain, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison of the Doors, among others have died at that same age.
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Generally, not always, mixed females are better looking. You ever see a mixed family and the girl got the best of both "races" and the boy is kinda strange looking? Idk it's just something I've noticed over the years. Also today in entertainment and celebs, you see much more attractive mixed females than males.
Wow, that's a bold statement, especially when it comes to the guys. Not to sound biased, but you are from Philly. Pretty segregated city racially, right? Probably not many interracial couples. Then again, you only said the guys are strange looking. When it comes to famous mixed males, the ones I can think of off the top of my head is Barack Obama, Derek Jeter, Tiger Woods, Vin Diesel, Wentworth Miller, and Lenny Kravitz. Do you think any of those guys are weird looking?
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"BoardWalk Empire" got 18 nominations on Thursday. In the main categories, it got nominated for Best Drama series, with both Steve Buscemi and Kelly MacDonald getting nominated for best actor and actress in a drama series, respectively. Buscemi already has won a Golden Globe for this role, so his chances at the Emmy Award is pretty good. Kelly MacDonald, not so much. However, I'll be rooting for her, because of all the corruption and murder involved in that series, she's the moral core. Unfortunately, the actor that's plays Detective Van Alden did not got nominated for a Best Supporting Actor Award. His character, even though trying to uphold the law and bust Nucky, has duality as he is obviously has many demons that he has to wrestle with constantly, which adds much more to the human element of the story.
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"Game of Thrones" was nominated for 2 Emmys on Thursday. The show was nominated in the Outstanding Drama Series Category. Unfortunately, despite the great cast of actors who did their jobs really well, only Peter Dinkage was noticed, as he was nominated for Best Supporting Actor in a Drama Series. I definitely think that Sean Bean, Lena Headey, and Emilia Clarke were good enough to earn some nominations. No knock on Dinkage, but I feel the only reason why the Emmys nominated him and not the others is because he is the only actor on that cast who is known to the American Audience. The rest of the people on that show, with the exception of that one guy who is on the Wire, are not well known outside of their home countries.
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Dexter
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Emmy nominations just came out. "Dexter" got 3 nominations, at least as far as I know if the major categories. It is up for Outstanding Drama Series and Michael C. Hall. or course is up again for Outstanding Lead Actor in a Drama Series. The Emmy voters were obviously impressed with Julia Stiles' performance this past season, as they nominated her for BEST Guest Actress in a Drama series.
I'll be rooting for her.
However, Johnny Lee Miller got snubbed in the Best Guest Actor Category.
Also, it's kinda ironic that seven women were nominated in Guest Actress Category. Every other category has a total of six.
So, Julia Stiles gets in, while Johnny Lee Miller misses out. No knock in Julia Stiles. She definitely deserves to be nominated in her category. I just think Johnny Lee Miller's performances should have been acknowledged as well.
In closing, congrats to Dexter and Showtime for their nominations. We will be rooting for you, and Dexter is coming back IN SEPTEMBER!!!
:dance: :hell yea!:
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I didn't like first episode of the new season. The start is a bit disappointing but I'm waiting to see what next
You don't have to wait. The 2nd episode is on HBO on Demand. It clears up a lot of questions. You get to see how Bill became King of Louisiana, who the REAL head of the the Vampires are, and whats been going with Tara and Sam.
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Holy SHIT!!! :shock: Bill is King of Louisiana, Tera is a lesbian now, and Eric now owns Sookie's house.
I know Sookie doesn't wanna be with Eric, but it looks like she doesn't have much of a choice now, I have a feeling Tara is gonna come back, and don't forget we have witches now. If we learned anything from the Vampire Diaries, Witches got the upper hand on all the other supernaturals. This season is gonna be AWESOME!!!
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Dexter
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I've loved this show from it's inception, I still Love it as much, I own 4 series and got a preview copy of 5 which I have watched, it hasn't been shown on Showtime in the UK yet.A friend of mine who had seen series 5 told me that Dexter gets caught and arrested, escapes and dies at the end. So I was watching the series expecting the worst, watching through my fingers and fully expecting to cry at the end! But they lied to me... he don't get caught or Die, I was so relieved. I almost cried anyway.
That sucks that your friend told you that, even though it wasn't true. Problem is that it might actually happen. Sounds like he or she read the books. That's why I don't read the True Blood books. I rather be surprised and see what's gonna happen instead of knowing what's going to happen beforehand. They might change it up a little bit when it finally makes it on the small screen, but I believe the writers and producers try to keep it close to the book as possible.
Sons Of Anarchy
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Oh well. I haven't season episode 7 yet, but episode 6 proved my point that Juice being black would be a big deal to the Sons. Even though the rules were from a different time, it's pretty clear that blacks could not be a member of the Sons.