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11 hours ago, Clauds said:

Jeez Valentina is what, 13 and she is already almost Adriana's height!? I had to look twice to make sure it was her. And nice to see Sienna, we definitely do not see her as often, they are both beautiful young ladies.

And she is already taller than André.

Adriana looks so beautiful!!

3 hours ago, Souled-Out said:

I think thats only true since the pandemic. Prior to the pandemic her career was on the same pace as always. She had hf covers, campaigns both commercially and in high fashion. And did runways. It wasn’t until the pandemic where things changed which was understandable at that time. Literally 2 years after VS the pandemic came. One year after the pandemic started to lift she got pregnant. Timing is certainly a factor as well
 

its just unfortunately, right after the pandemic she met Andre. That probably sound rude but it is what it is. Adriana hasn’t been the same since for multiple reasons. She got pregnant and stuff,  and clearly thats gonna slow stuff down. But to say her career was lacking before the pandemic (5 years cover pre-pandemic) isn’t true. She just ended up meeting this dude right after the pandemic lifted and then got pregnant within that same year. So right when she was free to go forward after covid, essentially she was pulled back again because of pregnancy. And currently pulled back because she has to deal with trying to recover her looks and lose the weight. Obviously this sequence of events would slow things up, but even then she did try to work despite her looks changing throughout. Adriana got a Vogue cover, Elle cover, Harper’s bazaar cover, and L’officiel cover all in 2022, the same year she was pregnant. She even walked a show pregnant and people def talked about it. Say what you want but her relevance didn’t fade and she has remained a topic and popular. To say she didn’t do anything or what models like her usually do within that time is false and selective. L’official gave her three covers and talked about celebrating her being a model tor 25 years JUST LAST year in 2022 as well. She got multiple covers for Elle brazil. The l’officiel thing was a big deal because 1. It celebrated her career 2. anna sui even interviewed her for it and talked about her career. Anna is an icon herself. Adriana worked with savage fenty, puma, chopards, and maxmamara between 2019-2021 ( within those 5 years). If you choose to not remember these things, then thats on you. But those brands and opportunities are def notable, her contract with puma wasn’t up until 2022. After that is when she reached a deal with the dogpound which was a brand associated with VS at one point and has gotten popular recently and on makes sense for adriana to do because its fitness.

 

Adriana was pregnant last year, and pregnant Adriana is not gonna get any contracts lol. 2021 she was just starting to travel again for her career and clearly was in the middle of moving her team around. The fifa thing I think has nothing to do with Laurnt/andre’s friend but more so her actual agent, ana and adriana’s own previous history with them. Its a billion dollar company of course she is getting paid well in her role as it. And I do not get why you have so much selective memory-Adriana been in the fifa environment for years

 

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I think its easy to be so negative and have foggy memory right now because she just had a child and still recovering from it and before that there was covid . Alot of fans have been frustrated lately I feel. Unhappy with how she looks because of pregnancy and then having to wait for pre-pandemic Adriana to return. Its easy to discredit her like you did given this timeline. I know its also easy to be frustrated by it. But it is understandable we are not seeing her do anything right NOW. Having three kids is no joke on a woman in her 40s, I feel like Adriana herself did not realize this.  I mean lets be honest she’s not in proper form or shape to work and she seems to know it. Personally I don’t think she should be seen again until she got her looks all the way together so that people can shut the fuck up.  Her not doing anything modeling related right now sounds right because show me a big model who just gave birth to her third child in her 40s and was ready to conquer 5 months later. The model does not exist. Most models don’t have that many kids or have them in their 40s.  So it makes sense right now she isn’t involved, especially with all the crap she gets for her post partum appearance alone. I want those people UNFAIRLY body shaming her to shut up and I also want Adriana to shut up reminding people she just had a baby lol. So I am all for her not doing shit right now except for recovering herself. 
 

Now I do agree Adriana needs to stop letting her career be affected by her environment/friends/boyfriend. Because what happened with the turkish brand was just bad and would not have happened if she had her usual team. Like I said she already had a child with the man which caused alot of changes itself. She should not give him anymore chances to affect her career again if she can help it. I am sure Adriana is not pleased with this. I just hope she acts accordingly by getting a usual PR team to work for her. She has to stop letting her social environment spill into her career. I hope this made her realize it. Once she fully looks like herself again, she will probably get that ball rolling like before. Like I always have to tell you, you are talking about a model who came from literally NOTHING to something with her drive and ability. Most aspiring models who come from where she did, do NOT end up where she is. Combine that ambition with her popularity, she will be good when she is actually READY. Because no matter what, she is clearly still popular. She just has to go back to pre-pandemic Adriana in terms of work flow. 
 

she should also just change her team again to avoid this turkish shit that just happened 

I don't remember 2019 as a particularly good year in terms of the quality of Adriana's work, to be honest. She was active with the Puma thing, which for her financially would have been an important agreement, without a doubt, but I would have liked it better in another record, Adriana's sexy and athletic image is already highly exploited and she has much more to offer. In 2018 she was more active, but it is still a year that is far from what she achieved in her best time. The thing is, if you compare the quantity and quality (this is key) of Adriana's work from 2010 to 2015, also with a pregnancy involved (being younger, yes, and that helps a lot when it comes to recovering), with that of 2017, 2018 to date, there is a huge difference and not for the better. I remember that at that stage every year she has a relevant Vogue cover (because Vogue Arabia... yes, it's Vogue, but that's it, Vogue Arabia), we saw her in Vogue Italia, Vogue France, INCREDIBLE covers in Vogue Spain and every year got at least one in Vogue Brazil.

Obviously I'm not saying she didn't do anything in the last few years, but she definitely could and should have done a lot more, much more prestigious covers and runway shows, considering who she is and how amazing she looked until the pregnancy. Now, if she wants to do it on her own... because even before meeting André, I think around the end of 2018 or 2019, she leaves her agency and agent, she spent a while trying to move on her own, being her The one who managed everything. Logically, it is much more complicated that way, especially considering that Adriana is not the model with the best contacts in the fashion world. Also, it was during that time that she was dating the Turkish guru, who I think manipulated her a lot and was not good for her career, or for her in general.

About FIFA, attending a gala in 2014, it really doesn't mean anything for her to now have this role. Because that's as far as Adriana's relationship with football ends, when FIFA called her almost 10 years ago to present something about the 2014 World Cup being played in Brazil. And she is not the only celebrity that FIFA has contacted to involve in one of their ceremonies. None of them should work for FIFA on a regular basis. To present something at a ceremony in a timely manner? Well, could be. To work regularly for FIFA? It's absurd. And it's normal that many people complain about it because it doesn't make sense at all, which is common in FIFA. I already said, it is that it doesn't make sense to see the FIFA congress with hundreds of presidents and representatives of the football federations of each country and, in addition, a supermodel. As a fan of Adriana, I don't want to see her there, I want to see her on a cover, fashion show or campaign. As a person who has always liked football, I don't understand what she's doing there. It isn't a justifiable decision because once she went to a gala or once Adriana published two posts about football on IG.

On the other hand, I get your point about her stepping aside until she's back to her usual body. I would feel bad for her and I think she would set a bad example in a way. Adriana has not gained weight because she has been eating a lot and poorly while she is lying in bed all day, she has gained weight because she has had a child and she is a woman who also gains a lot of weight during pregnancies, it's something completely natural. I feel terrible that she receives this criticism, because it hurts me as a fan of Adriana and, above all and more important, because they are absurdly unfair and perpetuate the idea that women cannot stop being perfect for a second of our lives, not even when you are a mother for the third time at 41 years old. It's insane. And for her to "hide" as if she had to be ashamed of her body would be like agreeing with those people.

As a fan, it's sad to see how Adriana has managed her career in the last few years of her career, really. A woman with so much potential, so iconic and has wasted her time on worthless projects with people who aren't prepared or experienced in managing a model's career. She has always been too influenced by her closest environment. And even more now that the world of fashion seems to open it mind a bit to allow models over 30 yo to continue working actively, until not so long ago, a model when she turned 30 practically had to retire. Fortunately, that has changed and now we can see some models reaching the best moments of their careers at 35, 37 or 39 years old. But nevertheless, in the case of Adriana, that she should be one of the most benefited by these changes... she has given us very little valuable material in the last 5 years and I was optimistic about Adriana's career, once her stage at VS is over, free of that contract that is as restrictive as it is lucrative, we would see very interesting work from her, but no.

Regarding her work with FIFA, I still maintain my opinion. I don't know how much they pay her for it, I don't know if they are paying her a lot, at least I hope so, because honestly she doesn't fit in there. I still think it doesn't make sense. You see all those FIFA events and, logically, it's full of retired footballers, which is normal. And in the midst of all those people who have dedicated their lives to football, a supermodel. And only one, because it's not like there are other models, designers or anyone else who comes from the world of fashion. There is Adriana and a lot of former football players, managers, directors of football organizations, football journalists. Has no sense. It isn't the environment in which, as a fan, I want to see Adriana, nor do I think Adriana should be there.

Candice has the same career as Adriana, with the difference that she started 8 years later. At one point, they are more commercial models than HF models or fashion magazine editorials. I remember that in the world of fashion everyone hated when a model signed as an angel with VS, it was like the sentence to her career as a model beyond posing in lingerie. VS demanded a lot of exclusivity, if you signed as an angel with them, yes, they will pay you very well to compensate for the exclusivity, but your career will pretty much come down to VS, which obviously isn't the most prestigious or glamorous company.

Who knows. I don't think it's for that reason, considering that she already made an appearance at The Best awards, it's true that they don't have the same impact, but if she had a problem with her body, I suppose she wouldn't have attended either. And, in general, in these last photos, she already looks much , much better. And from her IG posts, she also seems a lot more confident. It seems impossible to me that, in case she wants to attend, she has not been invited. Maybe mom duties.

2 minutes ago, lucyford said:

her stylist said the name of the event/party on her post

I just saw it. A pity there are no pics of the event. And above all, a pity that she didn't attend the Vanity Fair party, which is the most important event. A bit weird, on the other hand. She attended the event several times, when she didn't live in LA and her boyfriend was not a movie producer.

I also think it was for an event. In LA there are always many events the day before the Oscars.

She hasn't attended the Vanity Fair party? For what event was all that makeup, hair, dress that she posted?

I hope all these nasty comments don't affect her in the least. And, above all, don't make her do stupid things that she doesn't need in the slightest. The more natural she stays, the better she will look because her beauty is innate.

9 hours ago, lucyford said:

How is this sexist? So Adriana can't be offered a job outside fashion and it not be sexist? I feel like sexist is reducing Adriana to only being a "gorgeous and very sexy supermodel". Also what do you mean by "men's football", womens soccer is also part of FIFA.

 

As @nhlovesadrisaid, she was chosen to be a Fan Ambassador. Not a analayst or coach or someone who requires alot of soccer knowledge. They were probably looking for a celebrity to do this. 

The football industry is different. For a long time there has been an effort to include women in organizations such as FIFA, so that they have a greater presence and a voice, until now FIFA has only used women as trophies with which to attract the attention of men. I adore Adriana, she has always been my favorite model, but I understand that many see Adriana as a profile that remains the same, because everyone knows Adriana because of her work as a lingerie model for VS, the suspicions are more than founded.

I was just going to post a new about that too, although from The Times newspaper (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/fifa-criticised-for-tone-deaf-appointment-of-adriana-lima-as-fan -ambassador-6lfbbjpgw), but basically the same. It was very predictable that these criticisms would arrive and they make sense, if we are honest. It doesn't make sense that FIFA chose Adriana. And I blame FIFA much more than Adriana, that she simply accepted a job that was offered to her. I also understand who sees this as something sexist, if you have to choose a woman for this position, do you just choose a gorgeous and very sexy supermodel? I mean... hard to imagine that, for men's football, they would choose a male supermodel instead of some retired player or manager to fill that role. Just another botch from FIFA.

11 minutes ago, patt said:

Why is Ana Antic posing on red carpet. Is she famous? I saw Adriana did thank to her on instagram for helping her to being ambassador for FIFA.

In Spain, which is where she lives and develops most of her work, she is relatively famous. Not famous to the level that people ask her for pics on the street, but famous in the sense that there are articles about her on various websites telling about her life and who she works for. She is the daughter of Radomir Antic, who died in 2020, a famous Serbian footballer and coach in Spain. She is a luxury stylist who has worked and works for quite a few celebrities in Spain, including Cristiano Ronaldo's girlfriend, Georgina. She met Adriana through a serbian friend of her ex-husband, Marko Jaric.

47 minutes ago, Souled-Out said:

you can’t please everyone. ALOT of things in the industry is considered wrong and corrupt to people. Even VS itself because the people who ran brand had associations with Eipstein and the “transphobia”. There will always be people who think this about any organization that is involved in the industry and always complain. If Adriana lived her life thinking about naysayers she not gonna get anywhere. ALOT of celebs would not, thats why most of them do the same thing.

Also to say she had no association with football or fifa ever in her career is wrong. There is a difference between never playing the sport and not having any association with the sport. I am not surprised because I actually do remember her history with fifa and things related to football. Last year wasn’t even the first year she was invited to the word cup or have an association with fifa. She did an entire commercial to promote the word cup in recent years 

She was invited to go to the world cup in brazil, along with other models who ALSO participated in things fifa related

She has even attended fiffa awards before this one

and its just a flat out lie to say Adriana personally never expressed interest or like for futbol. Just not true 
 

she has posted about futbol and attended events related to it, just as much as MMA. 
 

Thats why when I heard this, it made sense to me. If people just want to bitch, they just want to bitch. Thats what it really is. People have a thing for that these days, especially for celebrities. People act like celebrities aren’t just like them, and trying to make money and further their resume. Regular people act like they should only be allowed to so that. It is very dishonest to say adriana never showed interest in futbol or had an association with fifa prior. Its like saying she had no association with american football and the nfl. She had association with them both in the same exact ways, no need to lie about it

Yes, she has some past episodes with football, but in a very casual way like anyone from a football country has when there is a World Cup. For example, my mother or my friends who don't like football, watch the national team matches when there is a World Cup (or when the city team plays a very important match), because of the beautiful atmosphere and the tradition of cheering on the selection of your country or the team of your city together with your friends and family, especially important for the brazilian culture. I think that this is the type of approach that Adriana has with football, in a casual way. I remember her talk with Marta and I think also Dani Alves in one of those IG Lives that she did and you can perfectly say that she is not very involved in the world of football. And it's not a bad thing. But I understand that many people, for that type of work in the most important body in the world of football, prefer someone with a better knowledge of the sport and who follows it on a more regular basis. And there are probably other women who deserve that position more for their contribution to the world of football. It's a bit like when they put actresses, singers or any Instagram influencer to do work related to the world of fashion, it feels intrusive.

I didn't expect this kind of work for her. It surprises me. I have seen some criticisms and I have to say that, as long as they are respectful, I can understand them. It's a bit strange that Adriana has been the chosen one for that job considering that she has no relationship with football, she has never worked on it, neither as a player nor as any other role and it cannot even be said that she posts much content about football, on her IG you hardly see a football team jersey or even a ball, instead you do see more posts involving boxing or MMA. Those who say that it's a bit forced and that this job should go to some former women's football player or some journalist who has covered football for many years seem legitimate and convincing arguments to me. Beyond that, FIFA is a controversial body for its corruptions in the recent past, I would prefer that Adriana not be associated with them.

She still looks quite different from how many remember her, her face still looks swollen, I hope people won't be too hard on her with comments about her physical appearance, especially considering that these kinds of football ceremonies always have a large audience and are widely talked about on social media.

I don't expect much activity, at least as a model, from Adriana, not this year, and I don't think ever again. Maybe she'll do some more campaign for some brand, some cover of some magazine, but as a model I think even she doesn't plan to make a big comeback and I would like nothing more than to be wrong about this. I think she's going to explore other fields, besides the work she does for the gym. That's why I think she asked a few days ago in her stories about whether people want her to write a book and about what, for example.

2 hours ago, horus said:

Do you guys really pay any attention to what is posted?

The exhibition is now, but the pic is old, it isn't uncommon for old pics to be exhibited in an exhibition. And yes, the pic is probably from 2013. In any case, you can clearly see in the pic that Barbara looks quite a bit younger, it's not a pic from at least the last 5 years.

5 hours ago, lucyford said:

@borg that and the dress being form fitting around the stomach

Yeah, they definitely didn't want to do her any favors with the styling. At least with the first, the second outfit I directly don't understand it lol

On 12/16/2022 at 8:05 PM, Smarf said:

She's coming up on a year of dating this guy, bet she'll get engaged soon.

In a way, I see it as you do, I have a feeling that she will soon be engaged to this guy. Probably because she has already seen how many of her friends of the same age or even a little younger have already gotten married and some of them have even had children, like Romee, Shanina or soon Jasmine, in addition to Josephine or Lais who have already married, or Taylor who is engaged. I don't think she wants to be the only one who isn't married and doesn't have children in the group (I think Josephine will be pregnant soon, if we are making predictions), because Sara has already said several times that she would like to be a mother.

But on the other hand, it's not like a year is already a long time as a couple. She was with her previous partner, that guy Olivier, for about 6 or 7 years and they never took the plunge, although she seemed to have much less chemistry with Olivier than with this guy, they were a bit of an odd couple.

With her current shape, maybe it wasn't the best idea to give her that kind of hairstyle, that ponytail. Usually, I really like that hairstyle on her because it highlights her face, which is extraordinarily beautiful. But right now that ponytail highlights that her face is still very swollen. I thought that her double chin was no longer so noticeable. But I'm happy to see her on a catwalk again.

I don't know how talk about witnessing a murder and that you could have been the person killed, it turns you into a snowflake lol. In any case, enough politics, it's not a forum for it. 

She definitely has economic and business interests in maintaining good relations with influential people from Qatar and Saudi Arabia. It's sad but true. Because otherwise, it would be even worse since it would mean that she supports them disinterestedly because she shares the vision of the world of those people who are so retrograde and, obviously, it doesn't seem the case, no matter how much Adriana in some aspects may be a conservative woman, but one of the XXI century. These people know exactly what they are doing by contacting so many celebrities to invite them to events in their countries. They are whitewashing the image that we foreigners have of their countries (dictatorships that don't respect human rights). And all the models, as well as actors, singers, athletes and many more celebrities, are part of this strategy to wash and whiten the image of dictatorships like Qatar or Saudi Arabia. In some cases, including gay celebrities, who lend themselves to whitewashing the image of countries that, if it were up to them, would imprison them just for being gay. It's all very disappointing.

17 hours ago, Souled-Out said:

 

I agree mostly, except I do think her body may be on par with her face. I think because Adriana is not a naturally bigger woman, that may not be obvious.  Like, she will only be so big and that may make you think she has worked on her body more. So her body may not appear that large compared to some other people who aren't naturally skinny like she is most of her life. But I will say that Adriana has been wearing bigger clothes and if you pay attention and look closely you can tell she mostly still has her post baby body. She lost SOME weight, clearly because she no longer has double chin at all. Lucky for her she doesn't have to do anything crazy to have it gone, it went away. Her face is actually less swollen than before. And lucky for her, her neck looks very normal and well (usually women who gain as much as she did during pregnancy, they end up with permanent neck rolls). She was also lucky to have not aged much. Her skin looks great. But you can tell like in the suit she wore and the outfit when she posted that selfie,she has her pregnancy belly still, its obviously just not AS large and she isn't as spread out before. But, i'm not sure if Adriana has actually even started working out yet, she may have just naturally lost some of the weight she has because of her genes. But in my opinion if you look closer you can tell the weight on her body and face correlate together. She's just not THAT big anymore because thats just not in her genes to be

 

Its just like you said, Adriana has a round face as is. Which is great if she isn't pregnant. But, any unusual amount of weight looks makes a difference. She is just one of those people who aren't meant to be "thick". She was blessed to have a perfect face and features but its not meant to be with a bigger round face. Sadly people don't realize everyone is different.  Not everyone's face fits having more weight on it. At her normal state, Adriana has one of the best faces ever. Like not many people can relate to her in the face department, meaning they don't have all the nice facial features she does. So you can't expect her to look like others when she has more weight on and vice versa. Just like some can't relate to looking the way she does with more weight on her, they also can't relate to when she isn't pregnant and in her normal shape. Having a round face like hers is great when she is in normal shape.

 

It sucks as a fan of her because she is such a good and nice person, if anybody deserves grace its her. It was smart career wise that she didn't try to disappear completely her entire pregnancy, she needs that PR to keep the work flow going in the future. But at the same time people are used to her only showing up when she has fully recovered and thats part of it. I def understand why she did that in the past, it was just easier to do because she had VS to go back to. I think VS served as better motivation to get back but also allowed her to recover quietly and without people seeing what she looked like in between. I still consider her lucky because to me, it looks like ALL she has to do is just work out and diet. Thats literally it. Like I said, her chin is normal again, her neck is normal. She doesn't have to get a face lift or anything, she just has to work out to remove the weight. She's still lucky and I think she can do it on her own. No need for surgery or that "sculpting" stuff Linda Evagelista did that left her botched and she no longer looked like herself. All Adriana has to do is just go to the gym and eat right luckily.

I think that she has already lost some weight because she will surely start to control her diet a bit, but yes, it seems evident that she still hasn't started to work out frequently. All of this makes me think about how much she has had to work out and how exceptionally healthy and probably little she ate to recover so quickly from her other pregnancies, although it's also true that she was considerably younger in her other pregnancies, it is not the same to recover your physical shape at 28 or 31 (when she had her two daughters) than at 41. She has had to make many sacrifices in her other post-pregnancies, probably spending a lot of time in the gym and less at home, now I understand that she will want to enjoy those moments more, it isn't that with Valentina and Sienna she hasn't been able to do it, but having to work out to go back to work with VS and many other advertising campaigns that she had at the time, she sure didn't have that much free time. Now it seems that she has no other commitment (at least as a model) other than her work with this gym, so she takes it more calmly. She may not have that motivation and that will slow her down when it comes to regaining her fitness.

I just hope, as you say, that she doesn't do anything to her face. I think she's already messed around with it a bit, but with treatments that aren't permanent. It's evident that, incredible as it may seem, Adriana also has her insecurities and that harmful comments on RRSS can affect her, after all, she is still a human being. And this can lead her to do things she doesn't need.

The comments about her physique are in very bad taste, those about the hypocrisy of Saudi Arabia and Qatar try to make us believe that they care about the environment and that celebrities promote it, the comments criticizing that seem legitimate to me and I agree with it. In addition to how obscenely cynical it is to care about the planet but promote a World Cup in which thousands of immigrant workers have died in the construction of the stadiums.

About her physique, I quite agree with what @Souled-Out has said, Adriana is not looking like many people remember her and she is one of those people who, as soon as she gains weight, all her weight goes to her face. She has a very round face and bloats easily, which makes her look even fatter than she might be right now, she is obviously overweight now, but maybe not as much as she might seem just by looking at her face. And it's normal for her to be overweight, she just had a baby three months ago, like c'mon, how the hell is she supposed to look like? Like when she was 24? It isn't realistic, nor healthy. And we also know that she is one of those women who gains a lot of weight during her pregnancies, there are others who gain less weight and it is easier for them to recover their shape in less time.

Another problem is that probably a lot of people who see her now won't know that she just had a baby and they will think that she just got fat because she eats a lot and just doesn't work-out enough. She is not Rihanna and her boyfriend is practically unknown to 99,9999% of people, so her pregnancy has not been the most popular, many don't know about that. If most people knew that she had been a mother 3 months ago, although there would still be cruel comments about her physique because we all know how social media works, there would be far fewer.