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Oh, I hadn't seen that photo of them in Paris. I thought they'd kept their distance from each other during that event. But yeah, in any case, they seem to have grown apart a bit. I liked their videos together; it's a shame they stopped their channel.

The Joja project certainly wasn't a huge success, but I don't think they lost money, or at least not enough to make her have to sell the house and move. I don't think that was the reason. But I still find it quite odd that they moved after all the effort and Josephine's apparent excitement about how the house renovation was turning out, didn't look like a temporary home, just for a little over a year or two.

I noticed this and also suspect their friendship may be on the rocks. In the latest post on Joja's account, there are a few comments asking if the brand is finished and others asking for a restock, but no response from the official account or from Josephine or Jasmine. On social media, they haven't been seen interacting (no likes or comments) with each other for some months, although they still follow each other. But what makes me most suspicious is that they were not seen together despite being in Paris for fashion week, even coinciding at the same event, such as "Le Grand Dîner du Louvre" or one on a more personal level, at Taylor Hill's birthday party in Paris, but even so there isn't a single pic or video in which they are seen together, which is quite strange if we consider that they are (or were) very close friends. I hope they remain friends, but it certainly wouldn't be the first friendship to break down due to the friction of starting a company and working together.

Candice is there as well.

I find it strange that they sold the house so soon after finishing all the work they were doing to make it their own. Josephine frequently shared the progress of the work, the materials she wanted, the decorative objects for all the rooms, she seemed truly excited about it, it seemed like it was the house they were going to live in for years, to raise their children in. And actually it looked nice and cozy. I don't know, I find it strange, maybe they received one of those offers that is so good you can't refuse, I can't think of any other reason without knowing their personal lives. I have to assume they still live in LA or at least she would be interested considering the company (JOJA) she has created with Jasmine, who we know for sure lives in LA, so that would make all much easier.

If all the photos are from the same period, then they are from the Rio Carnival 2020, late February. The first outfit is the one Alessandra wore at that time.

Maybe you're right, but I don't know how Adriana's body, especially in her early years when she was very thin, could be considered more voluptuous and curvy than those of Laetitia, Tyra, Heidi or Eva Herzigova just to name a few of some of the most iconic models of that era.

If we are now to believe that Adriana was also a curvy model at some point in her career... I love Adriana, she's my favorite model ever, but that doesn't mean I have to buy everything she says as if she were a divine being. She has had, like almost all models because that's how the industry works, quite a few moments of being a bit hypocritical.

And not even only Vogue US and Anna, other major editions like the UK, Italian and French ones don't like them either. They don't like VS (or SI) models, they have always preferred the more "elegant" image of the haute couture catwalk models to those of VS and I'm not even defending this at all, but it's obvious that this has always been Vogue's preferences, even though each edition has its own editor, they are obviously influenced by the image that the Vogue concept is supposed to sell. You only have to look at the list of models who have appeared on their covers, despite being much less popular than VS icons like Adriana, Alessandra or Candice.

Of all the things I thought could be controversial, I never imagined that calling this woman white would be one of them. I'm not even going to argue with that, I'm too sick of all these discussions about ethnicities and perceptions of each. Adriana was always called exotic in a good way, her beauty has always been accepted and celebrated worldwide since practically the first day of her career. Talking about Adriana as a victim of racism is disrespectful to models who have actually suffered racism, not because they haven't been given a Vogue US cover. If you don't see models like Adriana on Vogue US covers, it's because not every model gets that cover and there certainly aren't many women who look like Adriana because she is an extraordinary beauty.

Yes, Irina hasn't had a Vogue US cover, but despite being 5 years younger than them, she has more Vogue covers than Adriana and Alessandra combined. And she's even a good example, Irina didn't start having real success in Vogue until she left Sports Illustrated. Vogue people don't like SI, they don't like VS, they consider it cheap. There are some exceptions, but they are very, very rare and always more towards this high fashion type of model. I feel like Adriana (or Candice) has always been seen as too sexy for Vogue. In any case, I don't think Adriana has been the victim of racist prejudice, at all. She is white, she has some exotic features, but she is white, latina. But in Vogue US you have had Rihanna, and there is no one more exotic than her. Or Joan Smalls, a latina supermodel. Or Penelope Cruz, who has several covers despite being a dark-eyed, brunette latina. Maybe many years ago there was a certain prejudice, but towards African or Asian models, Adriana's beauty has always been widely accepted. It was the beauty of models like Adwoa Aboah, Adut Akech or Liu Wen who had the hardest time until they were accepted because their beauty is not as conventional as Adriana's.

When you look at the list of models with the most Vogue covers, including those of Vogue US, it's easy to understand why Adriana or Alessandra have never been on it. It is definitely not because of racism, nor has Candice ever appeared in Vogue US despite being a very conventional white, blonde, blue-eyed woman. Vogue, not only in the US edition, has never really liked models who made their careers linked to VS. I've always thought that this has limited Adriana's career quite a bit, as well as Alessandra's or Candice's, in terms of what they could have achieved (even more, I mean, they've had great careers). But hey, they were aware of it and the contract with VS definitely compensated them very well financially for it. In the case of Vogue US, there is also the fact that it has never been just an exclusive cover for models, but for a host of celebrities such as singers, actresses and athletes.

Videos are posted in the "motion" section, so it's better organized that way.

To me, it's clear that she's had something done to her face, aside from obviously losing a lot of weight. I think it's at the very least logical to wonder if she's had something done to her face because she looks like someone who has, indeed, had a bichectomy. This should not be understood as hate, nor controversial, nor should it offend anyone here.

I don't mean this in a confrontational way, but isn't it allowed to comment on how she looks in her appearances? Respectfully, obviously.