37 minutes ago, Jade Bahr said:

I never heard of it before and I'm pretty sure it's not mentioned in the parts of the book I've read so far. However I couldn't explain the whole procedure but I remember especially Hale talking a lot about it in the movie and I think at several points he tried to explain it dumb Ernest. I understand how it was kinda the key point of Hales plot against Mollies family and I also understand with killing her family one after one made Mollie having more of this rights by each dead what put her own life at high risk because money loving Ernest was her husband meaning everything goes into his greedy hands after no one is left. It was practically the invitation for killing.

Yes! That’s at least enough of an understanding to get why things were happening. I wish it would have covered more of how the Osage knew what was under their land (and no it wasn’t because of a gusher) and how they outsmarted the US government by creating headrights before anyone else figured out what was under their land. This of course made the white government look extremely foolish and extremely mad that the Osage outsmarted them. This is why the government started proclaiming Osage people too incompetent to handle their own money. Also, the money could not go to a white family member unless they were the only ones left. This is why all the Osage grandparents, siblings, aunts, uncles, children etc… had to be eliminated before a white family member could inherit it. Yes. Ernest would have had to murder his own children before he could inherit the money.

7 minutes ago, akatosh said:

Leonardo DiCaprio’s Former Assistant Reveals How The Actor Treats His Employees

Leonardo DiCaprio may be one of Hollywood's most famous men but he's an expert at keeping his private life hidden. We have gotten occasional peeks into his relationships through paparazzi photos and infrequent interviews but perhaps the biggest clue about what DiCaprio is really like comes from someone who worked closely with him at the height of his career — his assistant.

Leonardo DiCaprio's former assistant has opened up about working with the actor.

Kasi Brown was DiCapro’s assistant back in 2003 when he was filming for “The Aviator” and quit after the shooting wrapped up. She got the job from her friend who had been DiCaprio's assistant during the shooting of 2002's "Catch Me If You Can." Brown got the chance to bond with everyone during the shooting of "Catch Me If You Can" and became DiCaprio's assistant when her friend moved on to other projects. Since then,

Brown has had nothing but nice things to say about DiCaprio.

"Leo and I always had fun on set," Brown told Huffington Post in 2016, explaining the two would often goof around on the set while imitating accents. Their relationship was filled with humor and the two joked around often. She also revealed a joke the two had between them on numerous accounts.

"Sometimes, I would pretend that he was the stereotype of an entitled celebrity," Brown said. "And when he would ask me to do something, I would bow and in a beaten-down voice say, 'Yes, sir, anything you like sir, anything else, sir?' and he would laugh and tell me to knock it off."

She mentioned that DiCaprio is very 'down to earth.'

Brown who was an aspiring filmmaker mentioned that she learned a lot from DiCaprio on set. He was also smart and got along well with everyone on the set.

She said, “He's extremely down to earth, and he likes to share stories and life experiences with people.”

Additionally, watching him do his work with passion had been an inspiration for her. 

"On the way to set one day, I saw that he kept stepping on all the cracks and spots on the floor in our path," Brown said. "He was playing Howard Hughes, who has OCD, and I realized that he was getting into character."

 

Brown also got the chance to act in “The Aviator” when one of the stars was unable to reshoot a scene. Both Dicaprio and the director of the movie, Martin Scorsese, praised her immensely for her acting skills.

"When they cut, Marty came up to me and said, 'You’re an actress!' and Leo stepped off set and said, 'Kasi!' in an impressed voice," Brown said. "They both made me feel really good about my acting and the work that I was doing to learn everything I could on set while assisting Leo."

Even after Brown was no longer DiCaprio’s assistant, the two still kept in touch. When Brown started working on her own projects, DiCaprio encouraged her to submit work to his production company. In 2015, Brown was finally able to write and direct a comedy movie, “Gone Doggy Gone.”  She mentioned that DiCaprio was one of those people who remained supportive and helped her throughout her career.

 

DiCaprio has since set a strict NDA in place for his employees.

Brown's first-person account of working with DiCaprio may be the last we'll receive in a while, as the Los Angeles Times reported that to work with the actor, employees must sign an "aggressive" non-disclosure agreement that prevents them from talking about "the existence of the contractor's business and/or personal relationship with DiCaprio."

https://www.yourtango.com/entertainment/leonardo-dicaprio-former-assistant-reveals-what-its-work-him

Good to hear! 

37 minutes ago, SexyLeo91 said:

 

Somewhat Sugarwater, but I was already kinda familiar with headrights before seeing the film.  

 

Thanks for your response!

I have a question for those who have seen the movie, but have not read the book. Were you able to understand what headrights  are and the significance of how they started the Reign of Terror? Both my niece and aunt do not think the movie explained this. I thought it did, but I also went into the movie with a good understanding of them and how they work.

1 hour ago, Jade Bahr said:

I'm still somewhere in the middle of the book 😆 Now I ordered the Britney book so maybe Killers have to wait yet again. So far the book hasn't really "grabbed" me. All this talking about Tom White and his past and the FBI and how he went from here to there just to not solve the case like all the others before him. I don't have the patient for it. It's like reading a circle. It kinda bores me. Maybe it's just me - again LOL

It’s not just you. The book is very dry and boring. 😄

31 minutes ago, Jade Bahr said:

Even worse. Now everyone who saw the movie thinks "better" of him than that prick ever deserved. God lord I thought he's just disgusting from beginning to end and I have no clue how someone can have any sympathies or pity with him or thinks he really loved that poor woman for one second in his miserable life 🤣 If this is how "love" looks like yiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiikes

 

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I hope he died very lonely in very much pain in his stupid trailer.

 

Hopefully people will read the book and find out the true story. Don’t get me wrong, It’s a good film, just didn’t tell the true story. Read the book!

9 hours ago, Jade Bahr said:

Since he's a man I think it's hard to switch perspectives. Some writers/directors (male and/or female) can it better than others I guess. Nolan is even worse. Still there are possibilities. Marty could have consulted a female co writer for the script (maybe even a female osage writer). Maybe I'm desillusional. But this book was written by a white man mostly about white evil men probably for a mostly white audience (and per se there is nothing bad about it). However there were certain osage characters I found MUCH more interesting than anything fuckin Ernest or Hale did in that almost 4 hours LOL Like Mollie, her sisters, her mom (what happened to her dad was it ever mentioned?), the osage FBI investigator etc just to name a few.

 

I actually think the movie left more questions unanswered than answered. At least I felt a bit... unsatisfied like Marty didn't really hit the point of the story.

 

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Another issue of mine was how this movie is making the villains so ridiculously obvious in their monstrousness, it makes the Osage seem like total rubes. Because Marty wanted to give Leo and DeNiro some "juicy parts", he let them twirl their mustaches and leer and giggle with evil, totally forgetting that in order to con your victim into letting you kill them, there has to be a seduction first. Even Ted Bundy had tricks to get his girls into his car. But in this movie, the Osage just walk happily into the slaughter. Like I wrote in my review I didn't understand AT ALL why Mollie felt for Ernest in the first place. Because he said something nice about her skin? Maybe it's just me.

 

But it made me think a lot. Like days after I still think about it lol I clearly have to watch it again.

 

On the other hand it's also pretty impossible to fulfill everyone's expectation and I think lastly Marty took great care in crafting a film in a way that was respectful and did so to the best of his ability.

This was my issue with the movie as well. I understand why Leo played Ernest in the way he did wanting to get at the struggle and the duality of a human character, but it just wasn’t true to the actual Ernest. 
 

Also, while I have never had any interactions with her, I do know that Mollie’s granddaughter works in the same Cherokee Nation Health Services building that I work in, so there are no excuses for not having someone to communicate how the reign of terror impacted the victims and their families.

3 hours ago, akatosh said:

It was a real owl.

 

 

I remember seeing pictures (and maybe videos) posted here of Eli filming his scene. I explained back then (2021) the significance of owls and why they were most likely using an owl in the movie. Proud to say. I was correct. 😁

16 hours ago, Jade Bahr said:

Said it from the very beginning and now after watching the movie I'm saying it again. I would have liked the movie much better from Mollies perspective to learn everything about her and her family/childhood/background etc. It would have been quite historical if Leo and Marty had decided to let her tell the story instead of putting the focus on the evil white men. We knew already they were evil so nothing really new or surprising. Such a missed oppurtunity. I honestly didn't care one bit about Ernest, his so called stupidity (like it's an excuse for anything, just fuck you dude you're awful and disgusting) and his "feelings". All I cared about was Mollie, her faith, her people. I also still think Leo was actually too old to play Ernest but since no one is better than Leo I can overlook this rather small issue.

I would have liked to have seen more of that as well. Marty doesn’t know how to tell a story from the female perspective. 

4 minutes ago, Jade Bahr said:

Thx so much for the respond  I really wondered how this movie is effecting on people who are kinda closer to the whole tragic if you know what I mean.

I read the article above about people walking out because of the length of the film. The viewing I was at appeared to be a mostly Native audience and obviously an Oklahoma audience. It was sold out and not only did no one leave before the film was over, but no one seemed to be able to move until the majority of the credits had rolled. It was like we were all in a trauma induced trance. 

4 minutes ago, Jade Bahr said:

Unless it's animated. The 200 million dollar budget must have gone somewhere no?

True! 😂

Jade, yes, I’ve seen the film. Sorry for the delay. Life has just been extremely busy lately. I’ve only had time to see the movie once and I believe I need to see it more times to really take it in. It’s a great film, but I don’t feel like it was able to portray the true horrors done to native people  in a way that the non-native audience can truly comprehend. It’s hard for me to give much of an opinion right now, because this first viewing for me was distracting. It was difficult to not be distracted by watching the background to see the people I know and the places I know, and also due to having been there and watched the filming of a few scenes and knowing what was happening just outside of camera view and how many times they did the scene over and over, and also knowing when green screen and digital background was being used, etc. So, now that I have been able to get that out of my system, the next viewing should be much different for me. 
 

I’ll hide this next part even though it gives absolutely nothing story wise away. My favorite scene thus far is below.

4 minutes ago, LuckyGirl said:

If the majority of the actors are unable to attend why are there awards shows? Did they mention when these shows gonna happen?

If the strike is still happening, there will not be any award shows. They will be canceled. 

45 minutes ago, LuckyGirl said:

That really sucks🫠🤧

What about award shows? What if they got nominated? Can they attend???

Nope. They won’t even be able to hold award shows, at least not the USA ones.

Thanks for all the clips!

Sorry, I should have clarified. In the US, movies are typically released on Fridays and our trailers say it will be released on October 20th, so wondering why it’s being released early in Tulsa.

I wanted to check on something. Here in Tulsa, Killers of the Flower Moon is being released on October 19th. Do you know if this is happening anywhere else, or are we the only ones?

56 minutes ago, Jade Bahr said:

 

Maybe I'm the only one but I kinda like the fact that this premiere is all about Native culture, artists, and activists instead of actors on the red carpet. I also very much agree with this comment:

 

The easiest and most effective way to combat “mascot syndrome”, in which people see Native Americans as objects of the past, is to show people how vital and rich contemporary Native culture is. This red carpet is full of fashion designers, artists, activists, and the next generation who will carry Osage Nation into the future. 

Needless to say, I love this too. Happy to see that you like it as well. 😊

1 hour ago, sap675 said:

He flying back from Paris this hopefully?

I highly doubt he will cross the picket line.

KOTFM New York Premiere 

No mask video. Love the music choice. 😄

50 minutes ago, kellybsblover said:

Awww tickets were just released for the USA this morning ladies and of course I already bought my tickets. 😅

Exciting! 
 

In regards to the KOTFM tour, while I did take pictures/video, they really don’t contain anything you all haven’t already seen. It was cool to be able to watch the trailer on the big screen.
 

Possible spoilers below if you haven’t seen any of the trailers yet.

The theatre that we were in, during the video I posted up above, is in the movie. Most of the tour was up and down Kihekah Ave, which is no longer a dirt road. Our tour guide talked about how the Osage had all this money and cars and so they would hold races to bet on, which you see in the trailer. Also, the guide discussed how in the movie, Molly had a lot of money, but she didn’t drive, so she hired Ernest, Leo’s character, to be her chauffeur, and that’s when their relationship began. A lot of Osage history was given during the tour. A man on our tour that I was talking to is in the movie and he said he had a lot of pictures, but he is not allowed to post them until the movie comes out. So hopefully, we all will be able to find a lot of behind the scenes pictures and videos after October 20th.

Getting ready to go on The Killers of the Flower Moon tour in Pawhuska/Greyhorse. More to come.

For those who like to see the videos.

Have they not figured out that the flashlight technique doesn’t work?

40 minutes ago, oxford25 said:

Sugarwater  

 

It appears to be , tks for reposting the rehearsal vid  

 

Also I have question about a scene in the new trailer 

 

is that Leo/ Ernest that the woman slaps almost all the way  across to the western  side of Oklahoma in that scene ??? 

I believe so, but not 100% sure, and “that woman” is Cara Jade Myers.