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Pretty sure the first two are Intimissimi. The fourth, fifth, seventh, eighth, and ninth are all VS. Maybe the third is Newport News or something. Not sure about the sixth and I may be wrong about the rest but I think I've got them right.
Isn't the sixth one (b&w of her lying down) from one of the previous volumes of the VS Sexy books?
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Some of the smartest people I know and have ever met/seen are religious. Although I myself do not find religion an attractive concept, others do. Fair enough. It doesn't mean they are stupid though. It means they have faith. Einstein was religious. I don't see anyone questioning his intellect.
*sets mind back to Adriana-worship mode*
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I haven't seen this video posted yet (the one from GQ) so I captured it:
http://rapidshare.de/files/15626882/0316_a...lima_hi.wmv.htm
thanks so much!!
miha... ummm
why the name change?
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Just for Barry
English Players Are Technically Inferior
I guess it'd be hard to get build a good team based on technique and skill AND make it English eh? :evil:
i'm not fussed . . . Trevar Brooking sucks . . . i met him when i was younger
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hehehe I just posted it to get a reaction, and here you are being calm! boooo I say! booo!
also, it was an attempt not to give a decent reply to your previous posts regarding the subject. I can't deal with essays
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Just for Barry
English Players Are Technically Inferior
I guess it'd be hard to get build a good team based on technique and skill AND make it English eh? :evil:
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Sorry about referring to Sol being an Arsenal player, I meant Cole
Maybe you can't capture all what it means to be an Arsenal player born-and-bred in London, but I don't think Henry would be far off. He has shown loyalty and passion for the cause on many occassions. He will run balls down and fight for the team and the club. If Henry was a mercenary then he would've left Arsenal a long time ago. Even now, he is staying with Arsenal when he could be playing for a team that has a higher chance of winning the Champions' League. Does being a local player really make a player better? Sure they show passion and commitment, but is there really loyalty in today's game? Steven Gerrard nearly left last summer, and if not for Rafa inproving the team I'd bet my house on him leaving this summer. Owen left for the (supposedly) golden lands of Madrid. Only rarely do you find a player as loyal as Henry.
Side note: the Liverpool-Chelsea thing would be more like an Arsenal-Manyoo thing. I didn't intend to call it a derby, but it'd definitely be one of 'those' rivalries. Also, *cough* London derbies are crap
Like it or not, football clubs in today's society are also businesses. They need to run like a business in order to make money. There is no business sense in buying a player that is English and costs a lot, when you can buy one from overseas that is just as good and for cheaper. For example, out of Eboue, Fabregas and Van Persie, could you find an English talent that costs the same price and is just as good? You'd be hard pressed to find some, so why waste too much time and resources looking for them if you know the market doesn't have many? The multicultural part of my argument can also be integrated into the business side of things, as appealing to different markets expands your fan base, and hence increases your income, which in turn means it's good for business.
I think, as a business and a team, clubs need to evolve to the pressures from the external world. At the moment, business-wise, teams should be tapping into more markets and appealing to neutrals. It is the right direction if you want your team to have world-wide recognition. If ever the fans decide to revolt against the team for being too non-English or whatnot, then the club should also take heed and evolve to the fans' needs (as they provide a large part of the income). The club should do what it must to survive and be successful, if they can maintain values and traditions along the way then all the better! Another thing is that Arsenal do not exactly have a great academy. West Ham does. And the talent that floods from their academy, if not sold, make up the backbone of their team. They are in a much better position to say something with regards to the current issue when viewed from such a perspective. However, I am not supporting the Arsenal position too much, as it is possible for them to scour more/harder for young English talent. They just don't make the effort, that's all :trout:
Right, if that doesn't make sense...then you can sod off
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it's not about the style of play. it's about having some kind of representation of the place, region or even country.
having only three real British players in the squad of a supposedly English team is frankly disgusting. what are they giving to the community and how do they represent it? why should they even be called Arsenal when they are now a team of mercenaries? they almost have no right to this name since they have no link to it any more
how is the heritage and tradition of Arsenal being carried on?
where is the real passion?
i was initially against the idea of quotas of home-grown players but now teams have gone too far.
i'd rather that English football regressed (if it indeed would
) and that the players were at least representative of their clubs, that they understood the histories, traditions and rivalries of the clubs and that there was real passion than have a league full of possibly (
) more 'skillful' players that lack true passion and understanding that don't represent their fans or club's traditions.
the style that Arsenal play and the "vision" of Arsene Wenger is irrelevant to the debate in my eyes
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i personally feel that Arsene Wenger is flittering away the history and tradition of Arsenal football club
. . . being a Spurs fan, Arsenal obviously aren't my favourite football club
but i really do feel sorry for the fans and for the illustrious history of that football club
i'm not criticising just because it's Arsenal. i was just as annoyed when Chelsea fielded a similar team several years ago in a match dubbed by the papers "Coventry versus the Rest of The World".
i'm even more annoyed that Arsene Wenger then implied that Alan Pardew's statement was bordering on racism <_< . . .
you may well agree and you may well want more of a "spectacle" but i personally value the histories, rivalries and traditions of England's top clubs and i think that it would be really very sad to lose these from the English game
. . . feel free to disagree or whatever . . .
Well, I guess it depends on what you think is good enough for an English club.
You could approach it from a criteon-related perspective.
What exactly embodies an English club? What are the necessary criteria that must be fulfilled for a club to be deemed English?
Would you prefer an English manager? An English board? English tactics? Maybe 11 English players? Maybe some other sort of limit? English fans?
If you want to take the argument "down a level", would you rather Arsenal have only London born players? Surely not any Englishman can represent Arsenal, since they wouldn't understand the local area or history of the club as much as an South/North Londoner would
I understand where you're coming from and to a certain extent, I agree with you, but at the moment, Arsenal have Campbell, Walcott and Cole in their ranks and that's satisfactory, i guess...for now
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I mean, could you seriously say that Henry and Vieira aren't anymore a part of Arsenal than Campbell for instance? They live and breathe Arsenal and know everything about the club's history and traditions. They, arguably, have done more for Arsenal than Campbell or Cole have.
Traditions, rivalries and histories are created by teams as much as they are carried on. For instance, with a few more years of TLC, you'll start to see a rivalry between Chelsea and Liverpool, if it isn't obvious enough already. It may not be the best of ideas in anyone's interest that football in England should regress backwards for the sake of tradition. It shouldn't matter who is in the team, as long as they have the ability and intention of carrying a club's traditions and values forward, the by all means they should be considered just as valuable as an Englishmen. Henry and Vieira are prime examples.
Also, with globalisation and technology melding the world together, populations are getting mixed more and more. It makes sense (to me at least) that the football pitch should reflect the outside world. Foreign players can also attract more fans from different parts of the world (I just hate the bandwagon fans <_< but if they're willing to support a team and learn about it's history then they're good supporters by my book)
Well, I'm not sure if I believe everything I wrote down, but
I'm just "playing" the devil's advocate :evil:
And all seriousness aside, you call Arsenal a bunch of mercenaries and ask what link they have with Arsenal's tradition? The fact that Arsenal were formed from an ammo and weapons production factory... quite fitting don't you think?
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Maybe he could pick himself for the Dutch squad
and I like Zlatan
Don't go to Chelsea :|