JustJas

What butt? Didn’t have one then, doesn’t have one now. That being said, I’ve been watching her YouTube videos and while she’s not the most exciting she comes across as quite authentic. And has more of a bombshell appeal. I used to think she was expendable, but now I’d keep Romee and get rid of the other try hard blondes who flop in their varying degrees of ‘coolness’ (Martha, who’s YouTube has convinced me that she really is a bore, Elsa, Stella).

That b*tch. End of story.

I said no one knows who the hell Josephine is either compared to other VS angels who are bigger. You quoted me asking who said they do, meaning who said Josephine isn’t a household name. And I reiterated my original point, that no one knows who Jo is either. Nice try though.

Nope, neither is Taylor at the level of Miranda, Karlie or Rosie. Candice and Behati aren’t either. And Jasmine might not be in homogenous households but that doesn’t mean other groups and populations don’t know who she is. And thus is a household name for other populations. I’m sure even at Tyra’s height there were people in homogenous states, etc. who didn’t know her either. So if that’s the case, making sweeping generalizations like you and others have done shouldn’t be allowed since you’re speaking about everyone else when you make those generalizations. See how that works? I don’t need an explanation for what a household name, that Andrew person does who tried to make an argument that Adut and Anok are bigger models than Jasmine which is not the case. And I said they do.

Maybe Jasmine isn’t a household name to you, but you can’t make that assumption about everyone else’s households.

And no one knows who the hell Josephine Skriver is either. Wait, let me expand on that. I know Jo but don’t give a damn about her. And I’m sure for the majority of other black people she is not a household name. Jasmine on the other hand is. VS screwed up by having way too many Angels but there is something to be said about having different angels to appeal to different groups. The last group of Angels recognizable by different groups of people (young, old, white, black) in the general public are Miranda, Karlie and Rosie. None of the new Angels are even at their level let along the bigger supers. So Josephine is right along with Jasmine if we’re being honest. And Josephine doesn’t have the disadvantage of being black so what’s her excuse for not being bigger? Exactly. I don’t know what these people are on.

Sorry for the double post, but I don’t understand VS’ rationale for not having an Angel at the FFL event, they have 15 of them, was no one available?

Adut is not a household name and neither is Anok. And while I do believe Adut is/will be the biggest black model since Joan, you want to know what helped raise Joan’s profile in public? VS. Joan, killing it in HF, then working with VS truly demonstrated her crossover appeal. Unfortunately, with everything that’s happening with VS, Adut won’t get the chance to start getting written up in articles about her training like an Angel, etc. Now maybe if Savage x Fenty does become the heir apparent of VS, maybe that might happen for Adut and Anok if they get casted in that show, but even then they won’t have their pictures uploaded on an IG account that has almost 70 million followers often. So yeah, Adut and Anok, are killing it in HF but I’m not expecting Jas who is removed from them both by a few modeling generations to try to compete with them, she’s put in the work earlier in her career where she doesn’t have to do that now.

Despite the fact that no one in the Angel lineup is pulling in Gisele bucks at her VS height, they are still making way more money than I am and I’m sure you and everyone else posting on these forums, too. They probably make more in a year/the past few years (2015 Angels in particular) than most Americans see in a decade at their jobs. I wish someone would transfer the amount of the current VS Angels ‘non lucrative’ contracts in my bank account, I could do a lot of good things with that money, paying off my student loans for one. Comfortable how? And how did Jasmine limit her options outside of being a black model in a modeling industry in which white beauty is the standard that everyone else doesn’t measure up too? She doesn’t have the same options as her white peers. That’s a fact. Really, what black model in Jasmine’s peer group is doing better, cooler things in fashion? Or their career, period? In her her peer group, outside of Winnie Harlow, Jasmine has the most followers on IG compared to Jordan Dunn, Joan Smalls, Jasmine Sanders (and that doesn’t even count the Joja account, she might have Winnie beat if we combine both). As a matter of fact, I think Joan and Jasmine S. buy their followers. Their engagement numbers are way too low for their followings, compared to when Jas T. had their followings. For instance, Jasmine S. has a pic of her and Zendaya on her IG right now with only 70k likes. If Jas had a Zendaya picture on her IG, I’m sure she’d have double, if not triple, the number of likes compared to Jasmine S. At this rate, like Jas said to a follower on one of her IG pics recently, Jas has been walking runways for a decade now, so what if she wants to watch shows and is over walking them? I watched Joja’s How We Became Models video on YouTube and I imagine going back and forth for show castings 2-4 times a year gets old, real quick. I personally would rather be in Jas’ shoes with a ‘non-lucrative’ VS contract than still walking runways at nearly 30 years old, hoping to get casted in a multi-girl campaign for a non-prestigious fashion house that’s not paying VS coins, only to have to do the same thing next season. That sounds horrible.