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Did anyone else catch the laughter due to the name "Bettina Weiner"?

I hope she actually walks

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There's been talk (on other, less interesting, threads) that somehow the brand that gave you Tyra Banks and, um, give us a minute, is patronising in it's attitudes towards 'women of colour' when appointing "Angels".

There's no truth in the rumour of a "Token Angel". Nor that since The Great Shouty Forehead's departure VS have had trouble replacing her... Selita Ebanks was in no way a hastily employed replacement - as her many years of HF work and magazine cover appearances will testify. And no truth that the merry-go-round deployment of Aminata, Arlenis and Emanuela was a 'testing-ground' to fill the empty Ebanks space. Even today rumours persist on the authenticity of Chanel Iman's "Angel" status - and whether Gracie or Lais are more important to the brand.

All this is, of course, nonsense. And none of these girls is being utilised any differently from Candice, or Erin, or Lily, or anyone else (except Adriana obviously, pbuh - and possibly Ale). They are all "Angels" TOGETHER - and will continue to all be treated as such...

^I don't get the point in making Chanel an "Angel" if they're gonna use a different token black girl for every campaign. We've had Arlenis, Lais...

Yes, this trend is getting very old and predictable. I really want to know what happened with Emanuela Is she contracted with Next instead? For awhile, it was very clear that they were grooming her to be their main "black" model (the fact that they do this to begin with says alot...). Leading up to the 2009 show, Emanuela contined doing promos for them, while Gracie did the biofit commercial. Then, Emanuela couldnt make it to the 2009 show which seemed to change things completely. Emanuela kind of fell to the background, as they focused more on Chanel for all their promos, while Gracie did (and still does) the most catalogue work out of the three and the 2010 Valentine's Day campaign. And then theres Aminata, who came out of nowwhere and briefly was being promoted by them. She of course disappeared and they began working with Arlenis for alittle bit. Of course, they soon dropped her and found Lais. They seem to like Lais so much that they gave her two pair of wings in her first show and now are having her do promos instead of Chanel.

I wonder who will be there next token.. Chrishell?

Also, I dont think this would have happened if they had contracted Liya or Oluchi, but that's just me

^I don't get the point in making Chanel an "Angel" if they're gonna use a different token black girl for every campaign. We've had Arlenis, Lais...

Actually she told us she was shooting in Singapore, apparently, with them and then took down the tweets pretty fast. Then yesterday she tweeted how it was an 18 hour preparation for the shots she just did, so coupled with the pictures and it's pretty much sealed the deal! We'll see though, maybe she'll just do body paint?

I wasnt talking about the Singapore shoot. For this one, she's been tight-lipped. She only took pictures of accessories, which could have been from any shoot. It was SI who gave away that she was actually doing bodypaint by uploading RT that photo

She just basically confirmed it herself on twitter...MJ and Darcie need to tell her to keep her lips sealed, she's ruining the surprise!

In her defense, she has been secretive about the current shoot she is doing (presumably) with them. The picture was posted on the SI Swimsuit twitter, but it clearly looks like her.

"no this is not plastic surgery- it's first step of #bodypainting!"

Doesn't this pretty much confirm Izabel for the bodypaint section too?

^Duh! OLD news...

You guys are super slow on here, those 'Angel panties' on the previous post were posted hours ago on other forums. Just thought I'd point that out.

Im pretty sure that somebody on tFS mentioned that they filmed the 2005 show in a different order than what we saw on tv .. I really think that that's the way they're going to do it this year because i really don't see how Alessandra will walk three segments in a row unless she is the last model walking each segment

EDIT: Found it!

Also keep in mind that they sometimes edit segments of the show in a different order (i.e. 2005 sexy delicious/russian babes). But it'd be cool to have an entire VS show with its own spectacular closing and then give PINK its own thing at the end. The PINK segment rarely fits well within the show.

From Seano @ tFS

Yeah, Sexy Delicious was actually in between Crystal Princesses and Russian Babes. If you think about it, half of the girls in Crystal Princesses would have had changed to change quickly for Russian Babes. There used to be an entire unedited video on youtbue that showed it, but I think it was deleted. This ones shows it too though:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du-KABcp3uY

Who is she?

Jessica Stam

Is Emanuala is VS model?

I'm not sure of your question, but

yes Emanuela still models for VS

She still model for VS but she will be in the Fashion Show on Dec?

Yes

Oh. So that's like in this video: http://vsallaccess.victoriassecret.com/200...t-for-an-angel/

I thought you guys meant she attended castings.

Im thinking it was more like the board thats behind John Pfeiffer.

Monica goes on to imply that they know most of the girls theyre going to pick prior to the casting

My favorite thing about all these model pro and con comments is that the people who make them almost always seem to lurk in the threads for the models they claim to hate so much.

It happens on tfs all the time as well.

She got the Dolce & Gabanna campaign!

Does anybody know if Cintia will be going to the VSFS casting this year?

Most likely. They requests certain girls from each agency to come to the castings. Considering that she's been to a few in the past and the fact that they wrote "looks good" on her showcard last year, I'd say there is a very good chance she'll show up again this year. Hopefully, they'll finally come to their senses and book her

^to each their own, but I strongly disagree with that :|

Same here. If she looked like she did pre-2008, then I may be inclined to agree. She seems very self-consious of her body, so I understand why she was hesistant to walk all these years.

I know what you're getting at, Pheno, but doesn't Anja have a bigger bust and a wider waist and hip measurement than Chanel? To be honest, I dont think either of them should be walking for VS at their current state.

Wonder who we can expect to see this year. Hopefully girls like Anja, (no offense to her) aren't cast this year

Someone on the casting team, most likely John, really likes her though

ps: every white person has black genes as we are all from africa so this whole race and skin color discussion may be important to you

African genes aren't necessarily "black genes", whatever those are. But, thats off topic as well.

It looks like there arent too many pictures of Doutzen in the VS Holiday shoot, which would have been some of the last VS work we would have seen from her for awhile