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    OK, KRS 1 is a hiphop artist (not band), that probably, will block this thread for a while, so I think I should change him.

    Ok, Bob Marley ( :persuazn: Don't tell me you don't know him :persuazn: )

    why does everyone always pick bands that I dont know :S :(

    Huh, maybe now you can guess, how I felt, when I was supposed to name songs from :wacko: :

    Fall Out Boy

    30 Seconds To Mars

    My Chemical Romance

    Klaxons

    Arctic Monkeys(x2)

    Radiohead

    The Killers

    Sublime (x2) - I checked Youtube to vote :cry:

    Hot Chip

    The Bee Gees

    Sebastien Tellier

    Corduroy

    Taking Back Sunday

    the used?

    New Kids on the Block

    Weird Al Yankovic

    cute is what we aim for?

    Twisted Sister

    Avenged Sevenfold

    Richie Valens

    Rage Against the machine

    Rammstein

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    Anyway, it seems like I like Ramos and you don't. End of story I guess :(

    Yeah, end of the story. Maybe after the seson starts we maty open a chapter 2.

    Anyway correcting the last thing, it's not that I don't like him, but Chivu is better than him I guess :/ .

    He's closer than the penalty spot, so I'd say around ~10m. Watch the defence do nothing as he lingers inside the area. It was a great goal but the defence has to be at fault there as Stam was nowhere close to Gerrard as he headed the ball home.

    WHHHHAAAAT? 50m? :shock: Just upload it on megaupload.com or something :drool:

    No, it's a bit wider than penalty spot. After i watched it once again, I saw that it was closer than what I thought, but still ~12m I guess(yet long range for a header). Yes the defense had a fault, I agree, but it wasn't something terrific. Gerrard wasn't in a likely situation to score, and defense did the right thing by defending the closer zone. When the opponent crosses, the most important thing is not involve them run, cause it would make their headers way stronger, than when they just jump from the spot they are. But I will agree that they gave too much time for Risee to pick up his head and cross.

    - And about that 50m header, right now I'm not at the hometown, but after I'll go back, I will check for it, and whenever I'll find, I will upload it somewhere, and let it be known here ;) .

    They might not have much to do when the fk is taken but they got themselves in that situation in the first place. If the foul was never committed there would be no freekick to deal with.

    It rhymed? :ninja:

    Boumsong :yuckky:

    - There are freekicks nearly every damn game. I don't think that before the freekick was taken someone was like "Inept defenders, don't they never think that this freekick may result as a goal!" C'mon NOW :/ .

    - Sure it rhymed :anger: !

    - And don't diss Boumsong just based on his name :clobber: . Wait till we see him playing.

    Well there is a trophy for best player in the World Cup already so it makes every 4th Player of the YEAR award redundant if you're going to award it to the best player of the World Cup anyway. Ronaldo is the best example. He did nothing at club level that season. He's spectacular in the World Cup and he gets to take the prize home. I'm just saying that the criteria for picking a worthy winner should be judged based on the trophy's namesake rather than some post-WC hype :no:

    Zidane's performances in a Real shirt didn't impress me much in 2005/06 to be honest :morning: If he didn't headbutt Materazzi I think he would've taken the trophy but it might send out the wrong message to kids that watched the finals because people might think it's ok to play well but be violent :idk: The final most definitely worked against him :no:

    Ronnie did nothing? :blink: What about his performances in the Classico? When the Madridista give a Barca player a standing ovation it must mean something. He finished the season with 20-something goals as well (Y)

    Against Chelsea, he scored a beautiful goal and forced Terry's own goal with his freekick. That's 2 goals out of Barca's 3 and the tie ended 3-2. Against Benfica, he scored the winning goal (great run and assist from Eto'o though). You can't just say 'if you take his goal out, Barca would've won anyway' because Ronnie's goal forced Benfica to change their formation and chase the away goal which would've won it (first leg was 0-0). Also, if you look back at Eto'o's goal, Ronnie was part of the action there as well. He was the one that spotted Belletti, who assisted Eto'o. Also, what about the assist to set up Giuly against Milan? That was an awesome assist (and an awesome run) and helped Barca score the deciding goal in 180 minutes. So, Ronnie was involved in many critical goals that took Barca to the finals that year, which is hardly nothing :whistle:

    His performances faded toward the end of the season though :/ This year, he was tragic. Let's hope he does better next year and stops everyone talking about Ronaldo :|

    Henry was good but Arsenal finished 4th and if you agree with the Player of the World Cup = Player of the Year thing, then it should be no problem for you accepting that Ronnie (La Liga + Champions League) was better than Henry (4th place + CL Runner-up) based on results and the weighting of tournaments, regardless of whoever plays the best throughout the whole year :idk: It's the same kind of twisted logic :whistle:

    Drogba: I thought we were talking about the season before last? :unsure: :idk: Yes, last year he was good but the season preceding the World Cup he wasn't anything special, maybe for Cote D'Ivoire as Herve pointed out, but all the goals you mentioned were from last season, the one that just ended.

    First of all, pal you are wrong. The award is given to the best player of the year, not the season. And Ronnie's game you mentioned was in 2005, not 2006. In 2006 he was nowhere in El Classicos(and Barca won none of them). And I didn't said he did nothing, but he didn't really much. I'll give you an exact number, he had 12 goals from PK in that previous season.

    - Well, his goal against Chelsea was nice, but with or w/out that goal, Chelsea needed two goals, so that goal really didn't matter. And I don't think you were honest when you claimed that he forced Terry's own goal. I bet you never gave any credit to Lampard for Motta's own goal. And they shouldn't get any. It's luck, not delivery. He had a nice game against Benfica, but Eto'o was better than him. And you called that assist to Giuly AWESOME :wacko: ? I doubt if Giuly had the same assist, and Ronnie scored the goal, there would be anyone to called it an awesome assist.

    Let's check it once again if you want:

    I mean, his pass wasn't that good. The angle Giuly had was too tight, and the ball was bouncing in the air. If Giuly didn't run to that ball, not too many people would have blamed him. I really think, that Giuly needs to get more credit for that goal, cuz he really did a great job.

    - Anyway this was a nice set up from him:

    But I'll post a better assist and set up from our fav. midfielder Kaka' (and I bet when this goals first came you were like :wacko: ):

    And I think you have made a mistake when quoting my words :/

    I said: Best Player of the World Cup should be Player of the Year (not best player of the WC winners)

    Then you said: If you agree with the Player of the World Cup = Player of the Year thing, then it should be no problem for you accepting that Ronnie (La Liga + Champions League) was better than Henry (4th place + CL Runner-up)

    Noooooooooo, way wrong. I repeat Henry was waayyy better than Ronnie. He (Henry) was the best player of Champoions League, not Ronnie. Just because Barca was better than Arsenal, that won't make Ronaldinho better than Henry.

    - Lastly, I'll repeat the same thing once again for Drogba. It's the best player of the year, not of the season(I'm 100% sure for that)

    Welcome to another traditional long ass BS posts fair:

    I doubt it had as much to do with Cannavaro as it did with Capello choosing to defend home and away and play with a double pivot in front of the back 4. Hell even Roberto Carlos was defending :shock: Diarra...not too fond of him :ninja: but Gago on the other hand... he had a horrible season but I like Gago :woot: Ramos on the right? :cry2:

    - Sure it had to do with Capello, more than it had with anything else. But Cannavaro also helped the others, and gave them confidence.

    - Diarra! He is my man. DMF. Gago thinks too much offense. Maybe if they play both, then OK, but you can't leave the whole Midfield to Gago alone.

    - I said before Ramos should play on the right, if he wants to become Big. As a CB, he is risk, and real has not this luxury. And last year he did pretty good as a winger. BTW where is Cicinho??

    3- I know you are not saying, they are not good because they are young. I'm saying that they are young and that is why they are not so good YET, also. And this is why, they shouldn't play right now. There is no guarantee that they will get any bigger. Maybe Ramos sometimes clowns us by his goals. But as I said before, he is not the CB, that I want in my team. When Helguera first came out, people were claiming he will become big also. But when Real decided to let him go, who wanted him :wacko: ? Plus Chivu is just 27, so the Ramos, Metzelder, and Torres don't get too much credit from their age.

    They are young so they shouldn't play? You realise they need to play while they are young if they want to improve right? :blink: They are 20-ish. Provided they don't have any career-threatening injuries and given they have the potential to learn, they will most definitely get better...unless of course they are from Liverpool and go by the name of Robbie Fowler or Steve McManaman :rofl: That was tragic :no:

    True about Helguera, but Ramos is a different player. For starters he's more technically gifted, good in the air offensively and defensively, good passer, good shot and reads the game well. He's confident in his own abilities too, but probably most importantly, Ramos has the leadership qualities that Helguera lacks. Helguera can't play without a solid partner there as back-up but Ramos can do that job easily :yes:

    Well, let me clear it up. This was your word: I'm saying that they are young and that is why they are not so good YET. I do agree with that. And this is why they shouldn't play Yet. By they shouldn't play, I mean't, they shouldn't play as starters continously. If Chivu is better than Metzelder, than why putting Metzelder over him. Sure they are going to play. But they should play in the last 30 minutes, or when some others are injured or booked, and most importantly on the trainings. If they want to play 90 minutes, than they should go to teams like Getafe, or Osasuna. Real Madrid won't forgive their mistakes, when they make some. They didn't forgive their captain Hierro, after a season they were champions, cause his game was a dissapointment in the regular season. And Ramos is a defender. No matter how gifted he is offensively, there will be season, where he will finish with 2-5 unimportant goals. And then :wave: Ciao Sergio :wave: .

    Ummm... Gerrard's header wasn't long range. Riise was left alone, he had plenty of time to pick out a cross and Gerrard was pratically unmarked. If that isn't a failure from the defense I don't know what is :whistle: The Smicer shot was freaky though :rofl:

    Gerrard's header was something like 15m. It's a really long range for a header. Ususlly goals scored with headers, are from 10m or less. But you reminded me of something. Before 6 seasons or some I had saw a goal in turkish league, and I recorded it on video. If I'll find it, I'll convert it, youtube it, and then post it here.

    What makes that goal so special?

    :shock:

    It was a header from 50m

    :shock:

    I doubt if you have ever saw such a thing :wacko: ?

    Just because it is a free kick doesn't mean it doesn't count :trout: The defence must concede the free kick too :whistle: Anyway, Juve have Boumsong :| :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

    - What do you expect from defense during the freekicks :clobber: ?

    It all depends on the Kicker/

    It's all between him and Keeper/

    and defense should have no fear/

    Cuz whatever they do, won't make a big deal/

    (Hey, I'm great @ rhymin' :blueeyedbaby: huh?)

    - And true, Juve has Boumsong. And they will sell him after two years for 20,000,000 €. Forzza Juve

    Pffft...I still don't care about Italian football :ninja: Death to Catenaccio :persuazn: and correction, Kaka won the Champions League (bar the finals). The rest of the team did practically nothing the whole campaign :ninja:

    Agreed. Kaka won it all! But it won't change the fact that the cup is in Milan :/ .

    Just like when Luis Garcia did it all for Liverpool in 2005 (bar the finals) :/ .

    I don't mind the defensive player thing but I just don't believe giving a Player of the YEAR award to someone based on 7 games is right. Cannavaro and Zidane didn't have a vintage season at club level, and I'd rather give it to Zidane because he single-handedly took his team to the finals, but Cannavaro had Gattuso, Pirlo, Zambrotta and Buffon to make him look good. Grosso just looks ugly :rofl: Henry? He took a young Arsenal side to the Champions League final but Ronnie would be more worthy because he helped Barca win the Champions League and back-to-back Ligas. Pity he didn't do anything at the World Cup though. Kaka is always first choice in my books. Great season at club level and he was the only attacking star to shine for Brasil during the WC :thumbsup: Drogba did nothing special individually during that season so I don't know why you'd nominate him :idk:

    - Dude I feel like disagreeing once again. I don't mind giving it to a defensive player neither(I said it for dopio). But I mind it if you give it to a defensive player, when it's doubtful. Taking it one step forward, I bet if Italy had lost the final after penalties, Cannavaro wouldn't have got anyone of the top three spots. About the 7 game spit, all I can say is, in all the world cups I have saw, the best players of them were titled as Player of the year at the end of the year. And I think this is the way it should be done(as far as they don't spoil themselves in regular seasons). 94-Romario, 98-Ronaldo, 2002-Ronaldo. You see it wasn't the best player of the WC champions, but the best player of WC. And this Cup he was Zidane. Probably his red card in the finals made him lose some more votes also, but I think it shouldn't be counted when talking for football awards. And you are wrong for Zidane's regular season performance. In 2004-05 season I really thought he was gettin old, but in 2005-06 he really made me think that he ain't done yet. And his World Cup performance was one of the most memorables ever.

    - Ronnie? 2006 was his worst year since he came to Barca. I can't say he did much to his team. Eto'o was way better than him. And comparing his role in Barca's championship to Henry's one in Arsenal :wacko: ? C'mon now, Henry had scored or assisted ALL of Arsenals goals, in the knockout stages of CL. He single-handedly defeated Real and Juve. On the other hand Ronnie had only 2 goals(1 against Chelsea, and the other against Benfica), and even if you remove them, Barca is still the champion. He was walking too much on the sky last year. Glad he started to come back lately. Being serious, I don't think he was worth of top 10. Plus Henry was waayyyyy better than him in both matches they met - CL finals, & WC quarters.

    - Kaka', well we already agreed.

    - Drogba did nothing special :blink: ? First he was really awsome in Africa Cup, and was good at the end of the previous season also. In World Cup he was too alone against the greats like Argentina & Netherlands. If Ivory Cost played in a lower pwered group, they were giving me hopes of more, but this won't get Drogba anymore points. Anyway, usually in the Player of the year awards, the actual season is the more important one. And when the last season started Drogba was UNSTOPPABLE. He had like 12 goals in EPL, and 5 in CL. And his goals weren't so simple. Remember the goals he scored, against Barca(in S-Bridge), or against Everton, or the one he scored against Liverpool :wacko: ? I don't know how many people will agree, but his game was leaving me(and nearly all of my friends) in awe. If he had made this performance in a non-WC year, I think he could have won the award easily.

    You are about to witness one of the longest BS posts ever:

    :rofl: :shock:

    Well, :evil: the BS is still on :evil: .

    Now it's your turn :rofl: