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This David Bellemere situation. I don't really know anymore. The thing is all of the allegations seem to match up with how he has always acted, but the allegations seem to make them way overblown or make them out of context, or take how he acts the wrong way. Like for example some of the models claim he tried to kiss them, and he tends to greet people by doing a cheek kiss(no contact between the lips and anywhere on the face), and then the inappropriate touching and stuff like that. When you are not in a pose he wants you to be in, he WILL move you. All of this I completely understand why the models were uncomfortable, and if they were uncomfortable they should have been warned if they were not. Its just weird because David Bellemere has worked for VS for YEARS. Out of the all the allegations against these various photographers, Bellemere to me seems like one that is very overblown and frankly false. 

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1 hour ago, Sensual said:

This David Bellemere situation. I don't really know anymore. The thing is all of the allegations seem to match up with how he has always acted, but the allegations seem to make them way overblown or make them out of context, or take how he acts the wrong way. Like for example some of the models claim he tried to kiss them, and he tends to greet people by doing a cheek kiss(no contact between the lips and anywhere on the face), and then the inappropriate touching and stuff like that. When you are not in a pose he wants you to be in, he WILL move you. All of this I completely understand why the models were uncomfortable, and if they were uncomfortable they should have been warned if they were not. Its just weird because David Bellemere has worked for VS for YEARS. Out of the all the allegations against these various photographers, Bellemere to me seems like one that is very overblown and frankly false. 

yeah I didn't care to get write my thoughts on this because I really didn't care enough to research it, but the last few pages of this thread were about this so I scanned over it to see what everyone on here was arguing about and I agree with you.

 

it seems like there are a handful of users like you and me that say "whoa not so fast, idk yet let me think before placing blame", and then there are a handful of users that say "i believe the girls, he did it, send him to prison!". I was gonna write more but I don't feel like it oh well. I just hope this isn't all we're gonna talk about on here. I wish were talking about the VSFS instead 

 

 

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I like Candice's new pictures, but she has short hair too now. wtf first Barbara, now her. not liking it at all. doesn't Elsa have short hair? I stopped caring about her so idk.

edgy short hair is cool to me, but this new wavy soccer mom bob style....nope. 

 

I'm sure having short hair saves time and then for photoshoots they can just add extensions though.

 

the shorter hair looks good on Grace though. 

which Angels have long hair still? Jasmine (love her),......Grace and STella have short hair but I don't like Stella anways. Romee has long hair I think and Alexina. Martha? Idk I don't look at her much, all I remember is she's blonde and boring...Taylor has loooovely hair....Josephine has nice hair, omg who else are the Angels?? crap I always forget them because there are still too many lol

Leomie has nice hair! 

Sara has super great hair, which is a super compliment coming from me. 

who the hell am I forgetting???

 

 

 

19 minutes ago, peroxideblonde said:

@bump if you don't want to talk about this just don'y say antyhing, you sound very shallow..sorry if it bothers you if we talk about such thing as models getting harassed by assholes

yeah I'm not gonna say any more. I'll just scroll past anything about it. it IS technically VS related, it's just not what I  want to read. I hope you didn't take it as me trying to command people to stop though! it's on me to just not read it, so yeah point taken.

 

and since my post was about Candice but ending up being about hair, your (Peroxideblonde) avatar girl has cool short hair, that's more my style than the wavy hair do Barbara and Candice have going on now. who is in your avatar cause she's cute? I"ve been meaning to ask so I might as well just do it now. 

 

 

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10 hours ago, Sensual said:

This David Bellemere situation. I don't really know anymore. The thing is all of the allegations seem to match up with how he has always acted, but the allegations seem to make them way overblown or make them out of context, or take how he acts the wrong way. Like for example some of the models claim he tried to kiss them, and he tends to greet people by doing a cheek kiss(no contact between the lips and anywhere on the face), and then the inappropriate touching and stuff like that. When you are not in a pose he wants you to be in, he WILL move you. All of this I completely understand why the models were uncomfortable, and if they were uncomfortable they should have been warned if they were not. Its just weird because David Bellemere has worked for VS for YEARS. Out of the all the allegations against these various photographers, Bellemere to me seems like one that is very overblown and frankly false. 

They know the difference between a photographer trying to kiss them on the cheek as a friendly greeting and a photographer going in for the lips. They’re in the fashion industry sis and work heavily with people who do this frequently, men and women. I mean come on...

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Also Bellemere didn't even work for VS for so long, he worked for them for like three years top. The only photographer VS has used for decades is Russell. 

 

I am flabbergasted some people still defend Bellemere, the man is a pig o.o 

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1 hour ago, Clauds said:

Also Bellemere didn't even work for VS for so long, he worked for them for like three years top. The only photographer VS as used for decades is Russell. 

 

I am flabbergasted some people still defend Bellemere, the man is a pig o.o 

Same, I had to stop replying because it really bothered me how people continued trying to make it seem like he's harmless and Lais and the other girls are lying. Bellemere knows what he did with that comment, and trying to make it seem like Lais was so cool with him was a low blow.

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Victim blaming, nice. The Lais thing isn't an isolated case which it isn't, there's countless models telling their stories with him. Magazines took their support away from him (and Terry but it took them long enough)... Wake up and smell the trash. People in VS are dumb but they won't just fire anyone if they didn't believe 100% what Lais was saying.

Also, didn't Lais said she spoke to VS against him because younger angels were having the same issue with him and were scared to say something so she did with her own story so it won't happen again?

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19 hours ago, bump said:

yeah I'm not gonna say any more. I'll just scroll past anything about it. it IS technically VS related, it's just not what I  want to read. I hope you didn't take it as me trying to command people to stop though! it's on me to just not read it, so yeah point taken.

 

and since my post was about Candice but ending up being about hair, your (Peroxideblonde) avatar girl has cool short hair, that's more my style than the wavy hair do Barbara and Candice have going on now. who is in your avatar cause she's cute? I"ve been meaning to ask so I might as well just do it now. 

 

 

get used to it :rofl: this happens for everyone, me too..anyway she's Miki Hamano

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Wait... Because I dont instantly believe the woman or the man here. I am all of the sudden victim blaming? ANd yes VS isn't stupid, they care about their image, and would not hesitate to fire anybody without any internal investigation that hurts it. 

And no it is entirely possible for a man to be innocent and have 3 women falsely accuse him. Its happened just recently, and who just recently was found innocent after a criminal trial. 

At this point its a clear difference world view, and there is no point in arguing about this anymore.

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The subject of Lais vs David vs VS is done. The topic has gone on 5ish pages as now and has taken over the thread. Some of your comments are boarding on baiting at this point. Please take the conversation to PM if you'd like.  Any continued conversation will result in post deletion, further posting after deletion and official warnings will be given out.

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